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Try posting in the Power Producer forum - you might get better responses.
Another option is to use the CLVS function within the produce tab which will render mono audio to both channels (well it did for my test anyway). I used living room setting. It might introduce a bit of echo effect but worth a try.
Hi Cranston,

When I split a big project into sub-projects I render each sub-project to the format the final format will be.

Eg if you are going to make an AVCHD disc for PS3 playback then render each file to AVCHD. If you are going to make a DVD then render sub-projects to DVD format. Then when you create disc with the rendered files from the sub-projects, PowerDirecector will use SVRT and create the disc structure without re-encoding all the video again (assuming you are not using GPU rendering - PD actually warns you of this). Of course the menus etc will have to be rendered but the main body of video won't be.

My only evidence that this is occurring is by CPU utilisation: if it re-encodes my Quad core sits on about 95% while creating disc, when SVRT is active it sits on 5%.

I can't comment on WMV HD as I don't use this format.

Hope this helps explain it.
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I guess assembling the different sections of a movie can reduce it to more managable "chunks" amd then Produce makes sense.

I like making a more "complete" project (Menus, transitions, music, etc., ) so my family will actually watch them at least once .

What we are getting at here is that if you are making a large movie with lots of footage, PD gets a bit sluggish (may even become non-responsive). So to make it more manageable I take say 40 or so clips (eg 20 mins worth) and edit with transitions/effects/titles etc then produce that to HDD, save the project, close it and then start a new one. Do this again with another chunk of footage.
Then you can add the produced files into yet another project but now there is only 3 files for PD to handle. I usually add the music to the last project as I now have two free audio tracks to merge & cross fade etc.
When you produce the last time (complete movie) the video isn't rendered again as it is PD compliant and SVRT kicks in.
Hi Jim,

the burn problems in PD are not all related to the physical burn process but some are. As always with software, the problem is intermittent (in my case anyway). So I use PD to edit then save as a file to my HDD (but this is because I have a networked media player capable of playback of AVCHD & Mpeg2 1080i). BUT I also burn AVCHD hybrid discs for playback on PS3. To do this I author the disc in PD then "Burn to folder" option thus not using PD to burn the disc. From here I use ImgBurn or DVDClone to actually physically burn the disc and verify the burn.

This has been the most reliable way for me.

As for the GPU encoder, you definitely need to have the latest Nvidia driver installed.
Hi Jim,
What a post for your first!
It sounds familiar

Having used all the software you mentioned plus another or two I have settled on PD as my main editor for HD (Pana SD9) as a good compromise between features and simplicity.

My only suggestion, which works best for me, is to create DVD folders on the HDD with PD then burn with another application. It sounds like you are doing this anyway. Also use GPU encoding as it renders AVCHD better than non-GPU
I can upload 2227c to a share site if anyone wants it.

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Mmmm .... just thought, is there a licensing issue if I do that? Maybe Dafydd can comment.
Is your camcorder a card based or tape based device?

Card based you need USB or a card reader, tape based you need Firewire or IEEE.
Tape based can be captured by PD without intermediary software.
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Capture the TV signals and save without PD7. Doing it on PD7 stresses CPU
causing buffer overflow.
Also we dont know your system specs.
If you are running Vista assuming you have quad core CPU, at least 4 GB of DDR3 RAM and a fast HDD then you MAY not have the problem.

Hi Babdi,
Here in Australia, capturing DTV with PD7 merely saves the data stream with negligible CPU use at all.
I suspect Hank is having trouble with scanning for channels not capturing from them.
see above
Hi Kenneth,

My suggestion is to produce your individual projects then create a project for the final DVD.
Eg render the first video onto your HDD (in DVD HQ format), render your slide show to HDD (in DVD HQ format), and make you last video and do the same.
Then open a new project and place the 3 DVD compliant videos into the timeline, set your chapters and author the DVD. As all the videos are now in the correct format PD will use SVRT for the DVD creation and it won't re-render all the video again just create the DVD structure.
Is it getting stuck in the same place every time?

I burn using a programme which verifies the burn and about one in 5 throws up a "bad sector" error on the verify cycle. I often burn multiple copies of the DVD for distribution and so I don't playback every burn myself and since using this programme I have not had any complaints.

Therefore my workflow is Create DVD folder on HDD using PD then burn to DVD using another programme with a verification cycle.

Try creating a DVD folder on the HDD with PD then burning the DVD using ImgBurn (freeware) or generic burning software supplied with your burner eg Nero.
Sometimes this is more effective.
Hi Jim,

I will summarise my conclusions about PD using 1080i footage.

1. It has a great front end.
2. It handles editing of AVCHD well compared to other NLEs
3. It renders poorly to AVCHD but almost maintains quality rendering to Mpeg2 Blu-ray profile
4. It has average downconverting to SD Mpegs (DVD). Other programmes are equal, others are better.
5. GPU encoding of AVCHD is better than non-GPU encoding
6. SVRT does not work for AVCHD, Canon or Panasonic.

Using this mix, you need to come up with a workflow which suits you and your endpoint.
Today I happen to have a Panasonic DV Camcorder (3CCD model) in the house so did a quick test.

I took a video of a sign out the window.

Captured SD video using PowerDirector
1. DVD Profile (not DVD Fast)
2. DV profile

Recorded MTS file on Pana SD9 (3 CCD model) for comparison.

I did some crops of a frame as before and compared. Attached is a sample of crops.
The second from the left is what PD produces when rendering the AVI capture to DVD.
Although the MTS file had different white balance etc there wasn't much to pick from noise poit of view. The DVD from MTS has some interlacing artifacts.

If I was editing in SD I would capture in DV (AVI), edit, then render to DVD.
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But when I take the Produce>Burn option (I assume that this is the correct way to go)
David.


Hi David,
as you can tell from the posts PD can be a bit unstable in the burn module.
I always burn to folder (ie create a DVD on the hard drive) then burn it to a DVD using the burning software provided with your burner (or imageburn - freeware)
Just a work around not a solution sorry
Smaller individual projects for a large final production is a good idea in general.
I suggest you render each project to a mpeg2 file then make one final project, import the individual mpeg2 files and then produce DVD.
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Wow if I had known I was going to have to install/reinstall the program on a regular basis I would have considered another editor.


RC

RC, don't think this is normal. I have installed PD only once each time I have reinstalled the operating system and never needed to do it again.
I suspect there is more to your troubles than just needing a re-install
Hi Con and others.

I still maintain that you do NOT get a good result from AVCHD when downscaling to standard definition using PD or even HDwriter. I had a bit of time this morning (4am mind you- before the kids get up!!) and did another comparison for those interested. The file is a bit big for this forum rules so I have posted it on a share site (152Kb).

The picture shows a crop of a full frame capture snapshot with each application with a comparison from the original file directly below. The SD frame snapshots were scaled up once using Paint to maintain size.

I used the crop of this sign as it has plain colours, curved lines and text which is good to demonstrate artifacting and noise. I can assure you on areas of complex detail elsewhere on the frame there is considerable blocking with PD and HDwriter. (I might do another comparison if I have the inclination).

Another interesting fact. The original clip is from a Pana SD9 and is 19 seconds long. PowerDirector took 15 seconds to render on my PC whereas my preferred encoder using a 2 pass technique took over 4 mins!! Obviously a little more time was spent getting it right : .

Here is the file:

http://www.4shared.com/file/94220817/49eba7c/Compare_v2.html

So my preferred workflow for producing SD DVDs which I recommend to others is:

AVCHD edited in PD>render using PD Bluray Mpeg2>encode to SD DVD using 3rd party encoder>author using preferred application.
So to summarize your position Con, you do not use the PD encoder to either render AVCHD or MPEG2 but use the excellent editing capabilities.

This is the point many of us are saying for a long time. The encoders are not much chop really.

interesting.... it is a "default" option in my version
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