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Making progress I think. Although I still cannot see how I can change the camera settings to PAL from NTSC (I'm waiting to hear from Panasonic) I followed advice here and discovered that Power Director will, after importing NTSC clips, allow me to convert the edited output to PAL which will give me what I wanted.
My I ask what your final format/ use is going to be? DVD? UTube? PC?
The reason being is that it would be much better NOT to change the frame rate. You will notice judder and this can be quite distracting especially on panning. As mentioned above, virtually all recent equipment in PAL countries quite happily play NTSC media.
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It is likely the clips are 29.97 or 30 fps and hence you should use "NTSC" settings for editing (and output).
Just because you set PAL out put on the camera does not change the file type it records at. Kit merely outputs a colour & framerate signal compatible with PAL system. Most modern PAL TVs happily accept NTSC Signal.
Anyway best way to see is to right click the clips and select properties and itnwill tell you the frame rate of the clips.
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PM sent to you Paul.
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I would encourage all to shoot in 1080p and render to 1080p50/60. Many current HD players (eg Bluray, network and smart TVs) can play these files and it is wasted opportunity not to maintain best possible resolution. PD9 has issues with interlaced format and there is a noticeable improvement to edit and output in progressive. Remember PD9 is one of the few consumer editing programmes which handle these files and can render to 1080p50/60.
If your sync issues are prohibiting you using 1080p, try converting 1080p to 1080i using the camera, then editing interlaced, but substituting the 1080p files back into the working folder for the rendering process.
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Hi Kingbee,
Your jerkiness may be that you shot your video at 25 fps (1080i50) and you have rendered in 24p hence a frame rate discrepancy. It is usually noticeable on panning shots.
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Considering you just want to produce to DVD, have you considered just converting the raw video files to mpeg2 (instead of AVI) then using them to edit into PD? This way you won't need to upgrade and PD should be able to use SVRT so you will only be transcoding once.
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You can also click on the Director's chair (top left) and go to preferences that way
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Wow, you're having problems with your killer machine? I have a Core2 Quad Q6600 with 8 gigs and it takes me a whole day to open an 1 hour HD TV show, break it into scenes, and then edit out the commercials. I was hoping a new machine would make things faster, how is it working for you?
Well I have a core2 Quad Q6600 with 6GB RAM and quite happily edit H264 1080p60 @28Mbps with an occasional stutter (which resolves if I restart the programme).
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DVD standard will allow for linear PCM audio so select that option. You may have to go into the profile settings to change it (although it should default to an audio option the programme can actually use !?!?! Perhaps a stategy to get you to upgrade)
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The mpeg2 video files are different for PAL and NTSC. PD will re-render the project in the create disc module. The question is why convert and cause the frame rate discrepancy and resulting judder when all recent DVD players and TV can handle both systems. Being in a PAL country myself, we have had to live with NTSC sourced material and hence our consumer electronics has had to play these.
I would send over two discs. The original NTSC and a PAL version as a back up but my bet would bethe NTSC will play fine.
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How can I show the edited movies on my TV? preferable with the PS3.
Have a look at this post here.
http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/15533.page#75776
I am sure you read it but may have missed its possible relevance to your problem.
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At the suggestion of our moderator, this is a new thread regarding 1080p50/60 from Panasonic's range of cameras TM700, HS700, SD600.
It is hopefully a concise summary of this thread
Powerdirctor imports, previews and edits the 1080p clips. Whether they play smoothly is dependent on your PC hardware. Most recent PCs are up to the task. see YouTube link here
Notice the hardware:
CPU: Core2Duo E6600 (Conroe-4M)
GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 260
Motherboard: Gigabyte 965p-DS3
RAM: 6GB
Rendering to a file.
When producing a file you have several options to maintain quality.
1. Select the AVC profile and select 1080x1920@24mbps. This will produce an interlaced file from the progressive frames which in my experience is noticeably inferior to the original clips.
2. Select the same profile but edit it to a custom profile and change the frame rate to 59.97 and the field order to progressive. This produces a very good result and uses all the available information from each frame. However all frames are re-encoded to a lesser bitrate and hence there is always some degradation in quality albeit hardly noticeable unless you scrutinise each frame at a time.
3. Create a custom profile as above then do some tinkering behind then scenes to overcome the self imposed bitrate constraints of Powerdirector (24Mbps).
To do this you modify the .ini file which is created once you add custom profiles in Powerdirector. Instructions Here
SVRT.
You can get SVRT to work if you use the modified custom profile but it has the same limitations as normal SVRT with AVC and is not particularly useful if you do any sort of trimming/transitions etc.
CPU vs Hardware (GPU) rendering for the higher bitrate.
Standard CPU rendering seems to cause an odd header info problem.
GPU is a mixed bag at the moment. It seems nVidia is working well but ATI is causing problems.
Playback of the Powerdirector files
Standard Bluray players do not playback 1080p60 as a rule. It is not in the Bluray nor AVCHD specs. You cannot make an AVCHD disc in 1080p60. Note that the 1080x1920p setting in Powerdirector disc module is 1080p24.
A quick mention of some playback options include Dune media players, PS3, newer Panasonic Bluray players, WD live hub. I'm sure there are others but you need to research the problems.
For standard playback you can use 1080i60 if you want to maintain resolution or 720p if you want to maintain frame rate.
Hopefully this post will encourage TM700 owners to consider Powerdirector as their editor of choice.
Any further additions or corrections are encouraged.
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PJC3, there are 3 people involved in the movie and editor7writer, a especial effects composer and the producer/director. They all family so its not a big budget.
Cheers,
Nicolas
Then I await the release in anticipation!
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PD is not having much luck with there ATI compatibility as far as I can tell.
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Remember the 1080p preset is 24fps. If you shot in 29.97 then you are likely to see juddering with the frame rare conversion. I would also stick with interlaced if were you.
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Whether it is a bug or the programme being a little bit daft, it still has caused some angst for several users. We can only hope they bring in a Smart Fit option for AVCHD discs.
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A normal heavy movie takes from 90 to 120 minutes in the cinema.
I suspect they have a slightly bigger budget and a script writer involved
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Do you have the same problems if you use GPU rendering?
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You can create a custom profile and set the bitrate lower.
I don't think you can in the disc module.
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Perhaps just produce an .mp4 file then burn to DVD as data file using a standard burning programme, even windows.
If you are after an AVCHD disc then just select 720x480 and it will actually produce a 720 x 576 AVC disc as long as PAL is set in preferences.
And yes, we all know that PAL and NTSC do not appy to our digital media but is seems to be a convenient way to differentiate between 25fps and 29.97fps video.
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Has it been nominated !? (best animation short film perhaps)
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