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Okay, here is the screen capture.
Please note. I AM DOING A PROJECT SAVE (my only defense for freezeups).
WHAT DOES THE GRAPHIC CARD HAVE TO DO WITH PROJECT SAVE?????
This happened about 8 times in a row tonight, along with OTHER freezes.
Get a dadgum fix out here! Stabilize this software!!
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Fred,
I don't doubt I need a better card (it's a desktop, not a laptop, but no matter).
Nevertheless, there is a qualitative difference in "slowness" vs. "freeze". Lower performant hardware will likely run slower. But freeze completely? To the point that you have to use Task Manager to kill it? (and I've waited overnight, as an experiment. This sucker is seriously frozen). That should NEVER happen, regardless. It may be too slow to use effectively, but the s/w should NOT crash/freeze.
I bought PD because it claimed 64 bit blazing performance. There was, as you mention, no list of grafix cards needed to run the s/w. I have all the CPU/Memory requirements, and plenty of horsepower & memory to spare.
Premiere Elements was slow. Slow enough to cause me to buy PDU64. But it did NOT freeze up. I have to give it that.
Looking for some quick stability debug releases from Cyberlink. As I've said before, you buy the bleeding edge, just out, works on 64 bit machines package, you expect to bleed a little. But you expect the people who sell it to be coming out with bandaids pretty quick.
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I should point out that my machine was bought new last month. It does NOT have a lot of crap on it, by any means.
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I've mentioned it in almost every post I've made.
9.0.0.2504
Opened the project
lined up audio track to video track
split the video track
moved cursor to split audio track
it froze up
"freeze up" means Task Manager says it's not responding. I have to End Task to and restart.
REINSTALL THE SOFTWARE?? That's your prescription to fix a problem? That's the moral equivalen to of "take two aspirin."
btw: when instructions for submitting a problem include Part A, Part B, etc, on up to using almost the entire alphabet, this says to me your TR tracking is out of control.
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This is just exasperating beyond belief!!
Went in to a project, lined up an audio and visual track, went to split the track at a convenient place, WHAM! PD freezes up. This happens with frequency that goes WAY beyond annoying. It becomes close to impossible to make any progress on a project. And this is a project with a single HD track and a single WAV track.
Surely to God Cyberlink is putting out stability releases SOON.
Chuck "Annoyed in Alabama" Puckett
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I am a little worried about power supply. I note that you more than doubled yours. I have an HP Elite, pretty sure it's only 300W (will check when I get home).
I'll probably be shopping at NewEgg soon
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Well, lucky me. I buy PD9U64, I happen to get build 2504.
Wonder when a bugfix will be coming out?
Will look into the Radeon HD 5670 card. Any other folks out there who feel strongly about a video card that works great with PD9U64?
Or for that matter, any cards you want to strongly advise AGAINST?
Thanks in advance.
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Robert,
Hmm. With all due respect, I submit that CPU-intensive programs in general simply become less responsive to mouse movements, NOT completely hang up. I have been a developer of graphic-design software for over 30 years, and have worked at very deep levels of the machine/human interface. Mouse movements and other inputs generate interrupts, which are then processed. CPU-intensive activity may increase the lagtime it takes for the program to respond to the input. In general, though, such activity should never cause the program to hang. One can certainly write programs using multiple threads in such a way that pathological behavior does happen, but that way of programming is generally referred to as "bad".
Furthermore, we're talking about clicking the mouse from one track to another. After doing something like a Split on one track, and simply moving to another track in order to do a split at the same puck location. Hardly "CPU-intensive".
Thanks for the AVC tip. I had avoided that format since I am not familiar with it, and the description seemed inappropriate as I recall. I'll look at it again. For the current project, I managed to get an MPG2 video rendered last night, after starting it and leaving it running when I went to bed. I'm surprised at the time it takes PD9U64 to render, compared to similar length videos rendered with Premiere Elements 8. Advertised speed was the primary reason I purchased PD9. I now seem to suffer program freezes and a bit of slowness. But, as I have said elsewhere, this version appears to be pretty much brand new, with 64 bit multi-threading, and I know that can be tricky. I just hope there will be frequent bugfixes as they get the kinks ironed out. Otherwise, I like the program quite a lot.
btw: I'm running on an HP 2.8GHz Phenom Quad with onboard ATI Radeon HD 2400 grapfix, 6GB, 2.5 TB hard drives, Win7 Home Premium 64 bit. The onboard grafix is the "weakest link", and I'm looking to upgrade to a dedicated grafix card. Any suggestions?
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Is it just me? If I click too fast from window to window, menu to menu, track to track, whatever, PD9U64 will just as likely hang as not (by "hang", I mean eternal wait cursor, "PD9 is not responding" in Task Manager). I have to kill it, and hope my constant manual saves keep recent edits from being lost.
Does this program suffer from this much instability? I'm really getting tired of this "PD is going away" just because I click my mouse too quickly.
On another tack: normally, I'm pushing finished product to YouTube or whatever. But I like to look at the finished product before I publicize it, so I take time to produce an ondisk version. However, I'm getting results all over the map. What would the community suggest as the best format/quality settings, just to make sure my HD source all looks good, transitions are working etc? My efforts:
I created a WMV. It looked like the grainy stuff I had been editing.
I created a MOV (i've done that before), QuickTime Full HD. When I viewed it, the sound was missing.
I've tried MPG2 and MPG4, but sometimes that process hangs and fails to terminate.
Suggestions?
ttfn
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I am told that when a patch is posted for, it is generally announced on this forum.
Is there a mechanism in the forum to be auto-alerted when such a thing happens?
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Hal,
Ithelped a lot. Thanks. Surprised that Muting is not remembered. Everything else on the context (right-mouse) menu appears to be "permanent".
GUI should strive for consistency. Menu item should therefore at the very least be "Temporarily mute clip".
Wish I could get rid of these pesky app hangs. I am presuming I have jumped out to a bleeding edge by having purchased PD9 Ultra64, and therefore can expect frequent bug fix releases. Is Cyberlink conscientious about pushing those out for new versions? Do I get mail, or should I frequently check?
ttfn
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On a related note, it would actually be better to remove the audio entirely from some clips. Seems like it might reduce files size, and would certainly fix my problem (I discover one can not select multiple clips and "Mute Audio" on all of them. Must be done individually. Pain)
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[Don't you just love a newbie? We purchase the software, and for a while shamelessly ask lots of stupid questions, until we finally reach some comfort zone, or expertise, or else just fade away into non-activity.]
I have several clips that I have muted. I mainly use one audio clip that I've processed, and mix it in with about 10% of one camera's audio, to give it a touch of "live room".
Problem is, when closed the project last night, then reopened to edit this morning, all the clips were unmuted. It's like PD "forgot" the setting. This seems a bug.
Also: I had ended up with an empty track 2 (Track 1, 3 & 4 were all occupied). Remove Empty Tracks did nothing. On a complete whim, I moved 3 & 4 up to 2 & 3 (leaving 4 as the empty track). Remove Empty Tracks now succeeded. Also a bug?
I'm almost brand new: PowerDirector Ultra64 9.0.0.2504. Are these behaviors considered bugs?
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Well, I have to admit that things are, as the Beatles said, getting better all the time. One pays one's experential dues, one begins to be a better driver. Or at least make one's peace with software idosyncracies.
Here's a question for the community: I ALWAYS want to apply a cross rather than overlap transition. There seems to be no preferences setting, but is there another way to toggle that preference?
Chuck "Even used a Power Tool tonight - Woohoo!" Puckett
"I don't want to steal the show. I only want to borrow it for a while."
www.puckettpublishing.com
www.chuckpuckettsongaweek.com
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Are there books (Idiots Guide, whatever) for PD9?
The documentation presumes too much. There are paradigms that I can't tease out of the User's Guide.
For instance, I have a 3 camera shot of a music video. I want to cross fade at various times. Without knowing better, I am now:
splitting each clip where I want a crossfade
Modify with PiP, setting opacity for "fade to" clip to 100% on clip on one track, 0% on the other
select a transition (eg, blur) and apply it across the clip border on each track.
adust the transition borders to get something like I want
This seems awkward and cumbersome. The PiP dialog transition tab has a Fade In and Fade Out checkbox, but they don't seem to do anything, and I can't find them described anywhere ("Fade In" search in Help returned nothing).
It seems I would just want to change the opacity using keyframes, and not even split the clips, but that procedure is not spelled out in language that a newbie easily absorbs.
Also (and this was bad, since I bought PD9 64 bit app mainly for its advertised speed), I decided to just render the the thing and see what I had (the 3 tracks are all HD, so I was using "rough mode", or whatever, and wanted to see what i was producing). I set it for MPEG2, and let 'er rip. This is a 7 minute video. It went to 24%, and then just hung. For hours. Premiere Elements would render a similar video in 45 minutes on this machine. I also have frequent application hangs just clicking too fast between different tracks.
btw: machine is 64 bit Win 7, 6GB, 2.8 GHz, Athlon Quad Phantom.
Any suggestions here? Better ways to attack the problem? Avoid the hangs? Faster rendering?
Chuck Puckett
"I don't want to steal the show. I only want to borrow it for a while."
www.puckettpublishing.com
www.chuckpuckettsongaweek.com
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Hi,
A newbie here. Wanted to create a title with a solid background, but can't seem to find buttons that let me do that, nor mention of it in Help.
How to?
Chuck Puckett
"I don't want to steal the show, I only want to borrow it for a while"
http://www.puckettpublishing.comhttp://www.chuckpuckettsongaweek.com
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