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sorry, it was too big (the pds file was 100k, but the 3 pictures were about 10MB).
I will upload to ftp site.
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Ok, here is a short project that has horrid artifacts when rendering in AVCHD with 1080 (i or p), at any bitrate and profile).
Can someone try and render it with standard 1080i AVCHD and verify my results? (it is a packed project file)
Alex
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So I had to get this movie done for my daughter's birthday, so I didn't have a chance to generate all the diagnostics yet, but I did play with a 14 second clip that I could get it to generate artifacts on a recurring basis. I also figured out that it only happens when rendering 1080 lines (either interaced or progressive).
So here is the summary:
AVCHD 720p actually renders ok
AVCHD 1080i, 1080p (base, main or high profille) generates artifacts.
So in the meantime I rendered the clip in 720p, and then imported the produced video and replaced the slideshow in the timeline. Not optimal, but better than any other alternative, as a bug fix isn't going to get done between now and in two days when I need the movie done.
The problem is definitely in the cell slideshow generator and how it feeds the encoder at produce time.
I will upload the requested data in a day or two when I can get to it.
Alex
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I am very disappointed that they haven't ironed out all the AVCHD rendering issues for PD9
PD9 was great until I went to produce my movie.
I import a bunch of pictures, then use the slideshow function on groups of them (selecting different types such as motion, 3D slideshow, cell slideshow, etc).
So I spend 6 hours putting the project together, it previews fine, the mediaplayer plays it fine.
then I go to produce an AVCHD file (tried different settings, progressive, not-progressive, 24 Mbps AVCHD, Standard AVCHD, turning GPU acceleration on/off,changing the slideshow quality slider in the preferences) and I get a bunch of artifacts (see example screenshot). The artifacts only happen during rendering of the slideshow portion (other portions of the project include HD video and regular pictures that I add transitions manually. Those render fine. The problem is when rendering the slideshows.
Another annoying feature that didnt make it into PD9 is that you can't adjust the duration of the slideshows anymore (even though the documentation says you can!), please fix this Cyberlink!
background:
i7 920, Vista 64 ultimate, 12GB Ram, dual ATI 4870 in crossfire, catalyst 10.12, ffdshow codecs.
Running PD9 Ultra build 2330 (latest)
I have been a heavy user of PD7, PD8 and now PD9. I know about all the little tricks people talk about, and I have done them all.
The problem is a plain and simple AVCHD rendering bug.
I may have to go back to PD8 to resolve this issue, or waste a bunch more time and go into the slideshow, figure out which pictures were used and manually edit them/add transitions.
This has been very frustrating to say the least.....
Thanks for listening.
Alex T.
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So I have been a long time user of PD 7, then PD8, now PD9.
I have an i7 920 desktop, 12 GB RAM, dual ATI 4870 cards in crossfire, ASUS motherboard, windows vista ultimate 64 bit
and Catalyst 10.11 with 10.11 Avivo package and OpenCL.
I turned all hardware acceleration on, not a problem for me to select hardware acceleration (it also seems that PD9 supports openCL parralell processing acceleration of rendering.)
I also have the fddshow codecs installed.
Anyway, the first thing I did is open up a 38 minute AVCHD movie project I made in PD8 a few months ago.
Manipulating the project was not percievably faster than PD8. I did like the HD preview, except I was getting choppiness in the "full HD preview mode" (I dont think I should with the amount of GPU/CPU resources I have). It got better when I enabled ATI parrallell processing acceleration (OpenCL), but still hiccups every 15-20 seconds under movie preview.
I decided to render the project for my blackberry, where the application immediately crashed. I tried running it without hardware acceleration (GPU) and it rendered.
Then I decided to do a full AVCHD render, but with custom settings (15500 kbps average bit rate, 17500 kbs max bit rate on AVCHD), and that immediately crashed.
I the re-rendered it in the standard AVCHD setting (1920 x 1080) and it did do it in about 39 minutes, about the same time to render as when I had PD8 (this is understandable, since the GPUs used for hardware accelerated encoding hadn't changed).
So, so far, I don't notice any appreciable speed increase (although I have not used much magic motion, transitions, editing yet), and it did pause several times while manipulating the previous project a little.
As far as memory usage, total memory usage never exceeded 3.2G (I have 12GB DDR3). Under produce of AVCHD, I saw main processor loading of 25 to 100%, yet in the ATI Overdrive section, the GPU active percentage was mostly 0% (although I know it is using the GPU, since it does render faster with GPU acceleration on, although crashes sometimes).
Bottom line, there are still application crashes which tells me the exception handling hasn't been looked at that much for PD9, even though the base engine was moved to 64 bit (or perhaps when you fix a bunch of things, you break others?)
All in all, was it worth $70 for the upgrade? (I would rather pay $40 (instead of $70) and not get the bonus holiday pack)? Dont know yet if it was worth it. probably too expensive to upgrade at this time from PD8 because of my crashes... although the feature list is nice. I like how you can unlink the audio/video and move around, as well as displaying, in a more intuitive way, the transitions.
Overall, I give it a B or B-, due to the crashes and the high cost of upgrading. For $40 it is worth the upgrade I think.
Alex
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To the top: would like to keep as sticky? I think it would be helpful to know what things work better now and what if anything got broken...
alex
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When I render my 37 min AVCHD video (1080i @ 16MB/s), the file size of the produced file is 4.3 GB.
When I take that file, drop it into a blank project, then "burn disc" and select "no menu", PD8 tells me that I need 5.1 GB to burn the DVD (which is only 4.8GB) and can't do it.
If I have no menus, where is the 500-800MB going?
BTW, I did the same thing with another program (not PD![]() , and was able to burn the disk with 4.6GB taken up.
Anybody know what is happening?
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I use PD8 with my .MTS files from my panasonic Zs3 without any problem.
(AVCHD Lite 720p)
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I have had similar results.
My i7 920 OC at 3.6 GHz is about as fast as a 4870 card.
so, then I got a 2nd 4870 card and I run them in crossfire, now I get about 2x the encoding performance.
The i7 is one fast processor. Now, You got a 5870, it should be about as fast as 2 of my 4870s so something isnt making sense here.
Alex
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well, the last build was 2508, thats nearly 200 revisions/builds. In my experience with new patches/resleases, is there are a lot of bug fixes that get done but are not listed (usability etc.).
so I would not regard the list that you see as the only bugs that are fixed.
Alex
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go to
http://www.cyberlink.com/downloads/support/powerdirector/patches_en_US.html
The info has issues related to newer CUDA cards and INTEL G45 graphic chipset compatibilities are fixed.
Alex
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I just put them on a directory from the card. you just have to know where to find the videos on in the strucutre.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:AVCHD_actual_file_structure.svg
has the directory structure. the files are in the stream directory.
If you get the ffdshow codecs (they are free), then picasa 3 can show H.264 videos from the Zs3 like they were mpg movies.
Hope that helps.
Alex
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If you dont have many menus, you can fit about 30-35 minutes of AVCHD 1080i video on a regular 4.6GB DVD....(if you are running 24 MBps AVCHD then it will be much less).
Alex
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Just burn to regular DVDs in AVCHD format (same codec as blu ray), only the media is different and cheaper. Plays in most Blu ray players.
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I have pd8 build 2508 and Vista64 ultimate. I also have an i7 920 quad core with two ATI 4870 in crossfire and 12 GB of ram. no issues with crashing every few minutes or any regular event like that.
alex
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I would love to be able to use all 12 GB of memory in my i7 system.
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have you updated the firmware on your BD60? I think there on rev 1.7 or 1.8 now....try that first.
Also, did you render AVCHD in 720p or 1080i?
Since you have 20min of video, you could try rendering at 24 mbps at 1080i, that might help or try other combinations as well.
Alex
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I got build 2508 after submitting a ticket (i7 920, 12GB RAM, dual ATI 4870 in crossfire, vista 64 ultimate).
I was able to render a 15 minute movie in 720p that I could not render in anything but SD MPEG2 with build 2220c.
Seems like clips that have a lot of stabilization, enhance, magic motion tend to crash PD much more, but it was able to render it now without crashing....(running on all 8 cores with ati GPU acceleration on).
Alex
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So, They have posted build 2220c on the software update page...
I was hoping there was an update beyond 2220c as related by CLD/David,
Are to we expect something beyond 2220c anytime soon?
Alex
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Yes, thanks to David (CLD) for providing the update timeline.
I was originally responding to Neil.
I look forward to the release.
Alex
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