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Thanks for the post GGRussell.
That is exactly to the point and shows how much faster an SSD is and the potential it has vs a regular HDD!
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tomasc, I can only refer you back to my first post in this topic: "how much benefit you get all depends on your workflow" and also encourage you to watch this guy to get a “feel” of the impact that different hardware components have on video editing software (including SSD drives):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haP2aT_kpJo
If the bulk of you I/O activity remains on slower drives then you get limited benefit.
If you have your O/S and PD on a faster SSD then all O/S drive activities as well as the following PD activities will give you benefit.
- Project AutoSave
- PD resource file reads (all your DZ stuff, titles) that you need in your project
- create shadow files (and more) look at your C:\Users\yourusername\AppData\Roaming\CyberLink\PowerDirector\13.0\ folder to see all the things it updates all the time.
Open a project file that has its resources on a SSD and you will see how much quicker it loads and the thumbnails render(and re-renders when you zoom).
What I failed to mention and Eugene pointed it out is that hardware you connect your SSD to makes a big difference (different SATA speeds). HDD are normally WELL in the limits of SATA II so they are not affected.
Another thing that is not always obvious and tomasc pointed that out is that all 7200rpm HDD are not equal.
I attached the speed of my OLDER 7200rpm WD Black drive (use to be my C drive). As you can see it is quite slow. Compare to a new 7200rpm drive with more cache.
Now compare that to the Kingston SSD drive (relative cheap SSD and my current C drive).
NOTE - both are on the same computer connected via SATA II (so the SSD is capped by the SATA II speeds).
Eugene - If you look at SATA III controller cards (add-in card for older computer), then you might be able to get another boost from your SSD on computers that current uses SATA II (looked at a few today at Newegg and Amazon – read the customer reviews).
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I had multiple issues with Scene Detection also.
I find PD caches the info - so if you had issues on one run and you try to do it again (it keeps the results from the first time).
You can rename the clip if you want to try it again (that forces PD to do the Scene Detection again) since it has nothing cached for that "new named clip".
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I used both these programs in the past for alignment.
Free programs to do it:
http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html
http://www.easeus.com/backup-software/tb-free.html
Google the how-to align with them - it is simple.
I had to do a windows repair on one of them after doing it. The performance difference is not always the same. Some SSD's it made no diff on others it did.
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Interesting experience you had Eugen157, did you not buy 2 drives (thought you said in earlier post)?
What benchmark software did you use?
If you use AS SSD Benchmark - make sure that is all shows up green (Not BAD = incorrect alignment).
That gave me a performance boost also after alignment.
This is interesting artical if you want to see SSD performance on sata 3Gb vs a fast HDD.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-upgrade-sata-3gbps,3469.html
ICY DOCK is great bracket, I used both of these:
If you have a 5.25 slot - gives you 2x 2.5” and on 3.5” drive bay:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817994163
If you have a 3.5” slot - gives you 2 2.5”
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817994162
In my case (using a Kingston SSD it is a LOT faster than my 7200rpm drive), I would never go back to have my OS and Apps on HDD.
I will buy another SSD to put my video projects on (that I am currently working on) as soon as the wife lets me 
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Ha Ha, Now put those two into a raid 0 - smoking fast!
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Eugen157, the only bad thing about switching to an SSD as you OS(boot) and application drive is that you will want to put your videos on an SSD(scratch/work) drive also
I don't do 4K (sofar), but my next dive is another SSD (for the current projects I work on) and my HDD will be for backups and storage only.
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Welcome ricker666.
sevek had some good suggestions for you!
Also, when using Image Stabilizer (particular if you check the “Use enhanced stabilizer option”) you usually will get slowdowns or you have the audio playing but the video will skip.
You then have 2 choices:
- Reduce the “Preview Quality”
- “Render Preview” the section that is having issue.
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Response from Support on this issue:
"Regarding your concern, I would like to inform you that we are able to reproduce the issue in our lab and engineers are assigned to check it."
So, this is a fyi for anyone interested and following this subject.
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A raid of 2 x Transcend 512GB = $400 (about) is SUPER and FAST just a bit pricey for most 
A single 120-240GB SSD ($50-$100) will make Barry happy I think
For those that have a laptop (and just one drive bay)
Look at this drive (2 in one):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236642&cm_re=WD_Dual_Drives_%28SSD_%2b_HDD%29-_-22-236-642-_-Product
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I second Eldor's comment!
Even if it is was a pain - it is still worth it in the medium to long run.
For the size - don't take anything smaller that 120GB SSD (unless you want to do it again in the near future).
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I also thought the video was very good (I was looking into how important the Video card is in video editing - he explains that towards the end of the video).
For Barry - I'm surprised with your lack of "patience" as you said that you have not switched to an SSD a long time ago - ha ha
I upgraded 3 computers/laptops in my house and I will never go back. The only reason not to get an SSD is the cost for large drives. So, backups and large projects will not be on SSD unless you have lots of $$$
Multiple portions usually wont give you any performance gain (it is still using the same HDD). So if you copy from J: to K: and J and K are partitions on the same drive, the it is copying from/to itself.
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Barry – how much benefit you get all depends on your work flow and size of the footage (IO is a lot higher on high res video). If you produce to the same drive your read the video from - that also creates slowdowns.
I would definitely recommend putting your OS and PD application on an SSD. This makes Windows and PD work a lot faster. Also PD creates some files during editing (that is also faster).
Using a “scratch” SSD for your project would be ideal.
This is a GREAT video to watch to get a “feel” for the impact of different system components (including drives):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haP2aT_kpJo
Yes, Yes he uses Adobe, but some of the problems are found in all video editing software.
Your goal is to have your CPU be the bottleneck not your drives
These a 2 free programs you can use to move your c: drive to a new SSD drive.
This works only if your use less space on your C: drive than what you have available on the SSD and you don't have complicated partitions on your source drive.
Ideally you need access to another computer (to copy the drive), since it is not ideal to copy it while it is running.
Free programs to do it:
http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html
http://www.easeus.com/backup-software/tb-free.html
Some how 2 to clone your drive:
http://www.howtogeek.com/97242/how-to-migrate-windows-7-to-a-solid-state-drive/
http://lifehacker.com/5837543/how-to-migrate-to-a-solid-state-drive-without-reinstalling-windows
A Clean install is always best (MUCH BETTER THAN A CLONE)!
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How about rewarding customers that are the first to report and reproducible bugs/issue to Support?
The Reward?
Well this could be a discount/coupon or in the case of a big bug a free upgrade to the next version of the software that you currently own
Why should Cyberlink do it?
- This would encourage more users to submit issues to Cyberlink (instead of using workarounds like I see a lot in this Forum that use other tools because PD is not working proper).
- Many issues are currently not reported to support (everyone thinks "someone else" has already submitted it).
- When Cyberlink knows about an issue - then they can get it prioritized to be fixed or in the case of outdated feature that don't work proper, remove them.
- This would not cost Cyberlink a lot and it would be great insentive/driver for their internal QA folks to find the issues first
- Professional and Amateur users of the software bring "real world" testing and scenarios that are often not tested in QA.
- Plus anyone that is patient enough to provide ALL the information that supports requests for every support ticket should be rewarded anyhow
And yes, I have submitted a few that have been confirmed as bugs/issues by support that got escalated to engineering
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Are you able to play the video in Windows (outside of PD)?
Add the media info to this post.
Read
"PART J FULL Media Properties." in
http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/40225.page
if you need to know how to do that.
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Good!
As I said above " put your video on a fast drive" is important.
Internal drives are usually a lot faster than external drives (SATA connection vs USB).
To figure out how fast each drive really is, run benchmark software to check the speed of each of your drives and pick the best 2 (one for the PD software and a separate one for your video source).
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Thanks for the response Jeff
My source in this case is MP4 format but I had created a post specifically to ask that question, what formats do others use that don't have all these "known" problems like I had with DV-AVI format at that time and now more of the same with MP4.
The post was:
What is your preferred source video format?
http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/42642.page
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Thank you all for your input and testing!
I submitted the issue to support ( linking to this forum post).
I think it gives them all the info to get it to engineering and get it fixed.
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Thanks JL_JL - you are 100% correct. Only when producing MP4 file do you get the issue.
I produced a mkv and it was fine.
This also explains why the "Render Preview" results plays proper - since it produces an mpeg-2 (I think).
Sigh - Another support ticket
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Hi Tony - did you use my project (in the zip file attached) and has the source video - or your own clip?
To see this issue your video NEEDS to be VERY shake - like mine is, else the stabilize adjustments will not show you a "jump".
Also - the produced output must be the the same as the source format H.264 MP4 (see JL_JL comment below)
PlaySound said he was able to reproduce the issue - just like I did (Thanks PlaySound for testing!)
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If you want to know what is using up all your space on c: drive then use one of these programs - they are free.
http://windirstat.info/
http://www.jam-software.com/treesize_free/
Your should put your programs on the SSD (fast drive).
It would be nice to put your video on a fast drive also but like for most of us that is sometimes to much $$ and your HDD should be fast enough.
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