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Trying color director now - delighted with it. It's expensive, when I consider that I'll need to upgrade from PD 10 to PD 12, but CD will do exactly what I need. I'll purchase it.
Dafydd - Thanks for your reply. First, I'm going to try an uninstall/reinstall of PD 12. I have to leave for work soon, so it may be 16 May before I know how that works out. I'll get back to you and the group when I've done that. - Bill
Another confusion - the recommendation above was to install only Ultimate. Starting with Ultra, it turns out that Ultimate looks like it will install, but it won't accept the reg code.

The other thing, and this is pretty bad, is that when I did install the upgrade to Ultra 12, the first thing the install "Wizard" did was to remove **PD 10 Ultra** from the computer. Then the PD 12 install Wizard gave me the error message that PD 12 couldn't be installed because there was no previous version on the computer.

I had kept the reg code for PD 10, so I was eventually able to get the upgrade to PD 12 Ultra to install.

Now I'm really stuck - no more PD 10, and when I try to open video files in the upgrade to PD 12 Ultra, I get the error message that PD 12 does not recognize any of the files - yet these are all video files which PD 10 recognized just fine - and I was able to edit them in PD 10 (but I was trying to import the MVI files into PD 12, not the edited or produced results).

I've put up another thread about the lack of recognition of files. Maybe I have to uninstall PD 12 Ultra and go back to PD 10, if I can find the exe file???
Upgraded to PD 12 Ultra, from PD 10 Ultra. Registered the program. During installation PD 12 apparently removed PD 10 from my computer, then PD 12 sent an error message that it could not be installed because it said there was no previous version of the program on my computer (how silly is that???). Fortunately I had retained the registration code for PD 10, and once I put that in, PD 12 went ahead and installed.

Now I find that PD 12 won't recognize MVI files which were previously recognized by PD 10. I have screen shots of the error message - but I am not seeing a way to attach or inset them.

Any help appreciated. Right now I have no functional video editing program. This is a very bad beginning for PD 12.

Bill Hansen
I have PD 10 Ultra. After I paid for the upgrade to PD 12, both PD 12 Ultimate and PD 12 Ultra, as well as the two Content Packs and something called the Mobile version, were all in my Cyberlink download queue . (I paid only for the Ultra version.) I downloaded them all. Just now I checked the comparison between Ultimate and Ultra, and I see that Ultimate is the more expensive version, and it has a few Content Packs which Ultra does not have, but is otherwise identical to Ultra. . I doubt that I'd never need those "extra" content packs.

So - Maybe I can just skip installation of Ultimate, and install only Ultra, the two Content Packs, and the patch?

Bill
I forgot to ask this important question -

Am I correct that, when installing the upgrade to PD 12, I should first install the "Ultimate" version, and then install the "Ultra" version? That is, I'll need both Ultimate and Ultra to get the program to run correctly?

And, of course, install that patch 2726 -

Thanks - Bill
Thanks for these replies.

Tony - Good to see you still here, still answering questions. I do have PD 10 of course. That's why I asked whether I need to uninstall it before I install the upgrade to PD 12.

Playsound - Thanks for clearing up my other questions. I'll go ahead and install the upgrade to PD 12, and then the Content Packages.

Bill Hansen
I've just purchased the upgrade to PD 12 from PD 10. I'm seeing some troubles listed on this forum, so I'll post my questions before attempting to install PD 12 or the Content Packs.

First - do I need to uninstall PD 10 before installing PD 12?

Second - If I just accept the defaults as I install the Content Packs, should I be okay, and see the Content Packs as part of PD 12. The explanations centering around F5, F7 and so forth are Greek to me - I don't understand what is meant by them.

Third - am I correct that it would be best to install today's patch before using PD12? And should I install earlier patches before installing today's (or are all the patches included in the latest one)?

Sorry for these very amateurish questions. I did search the FAQs and the forum, but if the answers are there, I missed them.

Bill Hansen
I'm using the trial version of Color Director, trying to decide whether to buy it. So far, there seems to be no integration with PD 10 Ultra. After installing CD, no button for CD appears in PD. Someone posted that if we R click on a clip in PD, one of the choices will be to edit in CD - but that's not so.

So far I think the standalone CD has some benefits, but obviously only if it will work with PD. Must we purchase and install PD 12 to get CD to integrate?
Thanks to all of you replied. I'll certainly try Color Director!

Bill Hansen
Shooting videos with Canon 70D camera, editing and rendening in PD 10 Ultra. I like PD 10 Ultra a lot, but if the sun is out, I often struggle with what seems like very limited dynamic range. This problem seems much more severe with videos than it is when I'm shooting stills. It's severe enough so that even my very noncritical wife notices it. Is there a workaround for this in any version of PD?

If there were an adjustment which would allow selective brightening of mid tones and "darks", I could lower exposure of the video while shooting, pull up (brighten) midtones and darks during processing, and limit the extent to which highlights get blown out in videos. It seems that a processing program could include such an adjustment - but if there is one in PD 10 Ultra, I'm missing it.
Thanks Carl - The chart is helpful. It looks as if PD 10 Ultra has all I need, for now. I'll stay with it for a while, but I'll probably upgrade to v 12 within the next few months.

Bill
Thanks Carl - That's pretty much what I did, even before I saw your reply. It fixed the "problem". Before that, it looked like the clip(s) were going straight to the Magic Movie module, and I couldn't get out of that module. All's well now.

I'm wondering if there's value (in terms of speed of rendering, or other) to upgrading to v 12 or 14. I'm not interested in 3D video, only in doing rather simple videos in h.264, MPEG4 and MPEG2. Can you point me to a comparison chart between these three versions?

Bill
This is still Bill, the original poster. I should have mentioned that I can click on an individual clip while it's in the Library, and it can be viewed and played at a useable size - but of course it can't be edited until it's brought into the Time Line. Once it's in the Time Line, the image of the clip (or of the whole potential movie) are that same almost-thumbnail size, so small that they can't be edited.
PD 10 ultra - OS is Win 7 sp1 all updates -

Returning to PD after a year's absence due to health problems, I find that I remember how to do many of the essentials, but I can't get a useable view of videos as I edit them. The files are .MOV, shot with a Canon 70D camera. They come into PD and into the time line normally, but at "100%" size, they show up on my monitor as thumbnails, way too small to edit. If I enlarge them to greater than 100% the become so pixelated that they're useless.

I know there's a way to get files to play in the Preview screen at a useful size, without pixilation - but I have apparently forgotten how to bring it up, and I can't find it in the User Guide. There's also a way to play files in the Preview pane at almost the same quality as the final "Present" file - and this can also be done at full screen size.

If someone can point me toward these two ways of playing clips during the editing process, I think I'll be able to do most of the rest of editing.

Thanks - Bill Hansen
Wow - that sounds like a great system Jaime. Question - how much advantage do you think the 16 GB of system RAM will have, over 8 to 12 GB? I'm only asking because I haven't been thinking about that much RAM, and the 6 GB I have presently does a good job. Do you do gaming on your computer, as well as working with graphics and videos?
I'm not one of the experts, but I'll take a stab at answering this. I have much better luck uploading to YouTube and Vimeo if I use the Produce files which PD 10 produces. I don't upload directly from PD. I have all my "produce" video files saved in one folder (in Windows 7, it's "videos/my videos/produce"). When I get a version of a video I want to upload, I rename it to something which is meaningful to me ("Reunion 2012" or similar). Incidentally, to rename my "produce" file I have to close PD 10 first. Then I go to YouTube or Vimeo and upload from the separate folder I've named here. Uploads can be very slow, so I usually do them when I'm going to be away from the computer for a few hours.

I hope that's some help.
You have too many questions to answer in a single reply - but I'll try to give my own view, based on some very bed experiences 2+ years ago, and some very good experiences with PD 10 this year.

Processor - at least an Intel i5 at 1.6 GHz. Much better would be an i7 at 2.67 GHz or 3.1 GHz

Hard disc - probably 640 GB minimum, but 1 TB would give you some "head room". If you're going to store hundreds of videos on your primary HD, the sky's the limit in terms of needed HD space. However - remember that external HDs are inexpensive, so you can easily store your backups and your older graphics work (still photography, videos) on external HDs. Just don't try to use external HDs for your editing. They're too slow.

If you have the money for a solid state hard drive, SSD, they're significantly faster, assuming you have a good graphics card. But they are expensive, and that sort of speed isn't really necessary for video editing or display.

RAM - minimum would be 6 GB, in my opinion. That's what I have. 8 GB would be better, and 12 GB would give you a wide margin of safety. My 6 GB does very well for me.

Graphics card - something like a "high mid-range" graphics card, such as the GeForce 650, with 2 GB of onboard VRAM.

"never lock up" while editing? I don't think it's realistic to plan on "never locking up" while editing, even when editing still images. But the confidurations listed above should make lock-ups uncommon. Save your work frequently, and if your program (Photo SHop, PD 10, whatever) starts to slow down, save immediately and close your program, maybe even restart your computer. I have to do that if I've spent several hours of heavy editing of still images, or if I've tried to do too much, too fast, in video editing.

Carl - Thanks for your note.

By now you've probably read that I did find Daffyd's tutorial, so subtitles and Wave Editor now make sense to me. That wasn't the case when I wrote the post which you quoted. Following the tutorial, it did appear to me that one first had to click on the "sound track" (the part of the video track which contains the sound recorded by the camera as video is shot) in order to place a subtitle. Working with subtitles since then, I see that it's only necessary to click on the subtitle icon to the left, and then follow the steps. All of this works just fine for me, now - but it didn't until I found the tutorials.

I do understand the difference between a title and a subtitle, but thanks for pointing that our again. I'm sure you were not implying that I could not see the separate "sound track" icon. I'll get around to learning how to use that, to add other sounds, at some later time - maybe quite soon.

At any rate, whatever the correct terminology is, the subtitles do work in the location I'm describing, and it's the same location Daffyd used in his tutorial.

The PD forums are among the most helpful ones I visit but I've come to realize that no matter how precisely I try to describe things here, I'll often be misunderstood. Another example in the current thread is Steve's observation that a honking car horn, incidentally recorded as a video is shot, is not "background noise". Who would have thought that it was not "background noise? Not me. But okay, this forum has its own set of terms and I respect that. I will probably never learn to be precise enough to satisfy the contributors to this forum but I can live with that, and I'm grateful that you all continue to be available to help me.

Jerry wrote: "copy a chunk of background noise .....to a separate track and blend it it. I've done that with crowd noise if there is an unwanted intrusion."
Barry observed: "That is a very good point to make, little fella, you must keep the ambient noise steady, because dead silence is very loud."

Thanks to both of you. Good suggestion, and excellent observation - but I'm a gradualist. I need to learn things in small steps. If I can get subtitles down and eliminate the occasional car horns and engines noises (to me, these really are background noise, despite what someone wrote) I'll have accomplished enough, for now.

Bill
Found Daffyd Bevan's tutorial. Now Wave Editor makes sense! And it does work to "eliminate" sounds.

Not now - but some time soon - I will want to use this to modify my own voice, added to videos. Need an external mic, and need to know how to add that sound to my videos - but not now. I'm learning, slowly. I'm happy.
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