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I have PD14 and am seriously thinking about upgrading to PD17 albeit via 365.
In PD14 the FlipII transition flips and spins around and is a very good tool to use IMHO.
But there is one drawback - it is thick like a brick paver and therefore looks quite clumsy and bulky.
I have seen other software in the past do it much better with an extremely thin Flip transition like what was used at the beginning of the Superman movie where the 3 criminals were sent into outer space on this very thin 'flipping' rectangle.
Does anyone know if this very thin rectangular Flip transition is now available in PD17 please?
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These links are probably good for comparing PD17 offerings. https://www.cyberlink.com/products/video-photo-editor-combo/comparison_en_US.html or https://www.cyberlink.com/support/product-faq-content.do?id=23375&prodId=4&prodVerId=1339&CategoryId=-1&keyword=features
The 365 is basically a new selling scheme wrapped around PD17 product, basically you rent by the month or year, when you stop renting, you have no product to use. I also believe you will be updated rather you'd like that or not. So when you get used to PD17 and its nuances, when PD18 is released, you will be upgrade regardless as long as you are under rent. If your rent period expired, you can run nothing until another purchase.
It's a little harder comparing PD14 to PD17 features but below is a list of changes in each version that may be of interest depending how you use PD.
PD15 Added
360 video editing NEW
9:16 vertical video editing NEW
Express Projects Enhanced
TrueTheater color enhancement NEW
Blending Effect NEW
Non-linear interpolation in Title Designer NEW
Non-linear interpolation in PiP Designer NEW
Mask Designer NEW
Mask Composer in Mask Designer NEW
Clip markers support NEW
Thanks Jeff for your very helful information. I really appreciate it.
PD16 Added
Video Collage Designer NEW
Express Projects Enhanced
Audio Ducking NEW
360° Start View Setting NEW
Video Stabilizer with 360° video NEW
Color Match NEW
Split Toning NEW
HDR Effect NEW
Look-up Table NEW
Convert Title to 360° object NEW
Convert PiP to 360° object NEW
360° video object tracking NEW
Little Planet projection mode of 360° video NEW
Output to MP4 with Dolby Digital 5.1 NEW
10bit H.265 import NEW
PD17 Added
Nested Project Editing NEW
Video Pre-cut NEW
Title backdrop NEW
Multi-sample Chroma Key NEW
Brush Mask Designer NEW
Support digitizer in Paint Designer NEW
Audio Editor NEW
.WEBM (VP9) video editing support NEW
HEIC image editing support NEW
Capture video in H.264 format NEW
360° video stabilizer NEW
Produce MP4/MKV with DTS 5.1 audio NEW
H.265 360° video produce NEW
Video Collage Designer Enhanced
Blending Effect Enhanced
Title Designer Enhanced
PiP Designer Enhanced
Mask Designer Mask Composite Enhanced
Motion Tracking support Enhanced
MultiCam Designer Enhanced
Paint Designer Enhanced
Export .SRT file Enhanced
Magic Style templates Enhanced
Title templates Enhanced
PiP template Enhanced
Particle templates Enhanced
Jeff
Thanks Jeff for your very helpful information - I really appreciate it.
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It might help to frame it a little differently. Ther are actually 2 versions of PD17 - standalone (or perpetual license) and subscription versions.
In the past, a new version of PD came out every September or so and got a version number increase. You bought a license for PD14 and have been able to use the product from that point on (perpetually) without any additional cost. To get a newer version with more features, you need to pay for an upgrade.
The subscription (365) version is a newer way of licensing PD, and you get all kinds of extra content along with the current PD version (which is 17), as long as you pay the ongoing subscription fee. You will also get the next PD version when it's released and all future updates and versions as well.
Since the forums are arranged by which version of PD people have, there isn't much of a need for 365 since that's only a licensing method for the most part. Cyberlink may end up differentiating the two versions more down the road, and I would imagine they'd add the appropriate subforums at that time.
If you're in the US, here is the comparison page for all PD17 "flavors."
If you're located in a different region, sign in to your Cyberlink account or click on the globe icon at the top right of the page and select your location.
Since PD14 is obsolete, you'll have to search online for the specs. I found this article quickly.
Thanks so much Optodata for your very helpful reply.
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Firstly there seems to be no forum for PD365 but having said that the comparison chart shows PD365 includes PD17.
PD17 ULTRA is shown at the included price of twice that of PD365.
I am very confused!
I want to make an informed choice but can't if I am totally confused.
Why is there no forum for PD365?
Is it because the main body of PD365 is PD17?
Or am I miles away from the truth?
And why is it so difficult to understand?
Perhaps I have missed the spot on the website where it is all explained?
And lastly how can I compare the specs of my PD14 to PD365 to see if I think it is worth upgrading?
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Thanks everyone for that info!
I did as suggested and my music video is now up on my Facebook page.
Does anyone know if that facility has been removed from recent versions of PowerDirector like PD17 and 365?
And does anyone know why Facebook decided to get tough with software editors like Cyberlink?
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I just tried 3 options to upload a 3 minute music video to Facebook from PD14 and of course failed miserably.
The video is made up of photos with a music background.
I first tried FULL HD because I thought that it will do the photos justice..
Then I tried HD.
Then I tried 640x30 thinking the photos will hardly be able to be identified.
But none worked.
My Facebook page is empty still.
I had already looked up the plethora of confusing specifications allowed by Facebook!
How confusing can Facebook get?
What I can't undrstand is that I make this 3 min video up from scratch in PD14 and after editing it I go into Produce and then into Online and then into Facebook and then choose the Profile type and then click on Start and give my Authorization for accessing my Facebook account and then PD14 Renders the video to a certain specification and then uploads it to my Facebook page it says! BUT IT DOESN'T!
Can someone please help me find a solution to this problem?
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As we go along making our videos we accumulate more and more video clips and sometimes more than one or two cameras capable of taking videos. This is also true of still photos and they probably massively outnumber the videos but that doesn't matter too much because the still photo files record the camera model be it DSLR, Mirrorless M43, camcorder or mobile phone.
But what about video clips?
When I look at a clip in Windows 10 it shows everything but the camera model.
When I load the clip in PowerDirector 14 it shows everything but the camera model.
Am I missing something here?
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Good news Phil and thanks for passing it on.
I too had the color problem you mentioned but only with the VLC PC player software. The cause may be that it is 10bits, just a guess. So far not aware of any commercial UHD player that will NOT play these BR discs.
You have a GTX960 so the rendering must have taken a lot of time. This UHD burning made me change to a GTX1060, rendering in UHD CREATOR is now app 2X real time from app 30X real time.
Phil, please mention your experience on the PD16 forum, to inform others. In particular because of your PC's specs. This thread is only on the PD15 forum and has very few readers.
One question if I may, why did you choose this particular Sony player?
Eugene
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I read the whole thread again and YES, WE HAVE COME A LONG WAY. !!!!!!!!
Eugene,
Thanks for that.
Yes, you may be correct with the 30 min estimate for rendering! Currently burning another disc to see what time it does take.
I bought this PC especially for video and photo editing from Melbourne a year ago so perhaps I need to upgrade to the GTX1060.
I will try to find the time to post on PD16 forum as you suggest.
I chose the Sony UBP-X800 for a couple of reasons.
I did research which showed several reviews listing it together with others.
Also, only Sony and Panasonic BR players will play AVCHD 2.0. Samsung won't (as least not when I was looking a little while back - apparently it is a codec agreed by Sony and Panasonic and CL uses AVCHD 2.0).
The Oppo is twice the price.
Yesterday JB HiFi knocked over AU$100 off the price.
And everything in the US is so much cheaper than here in Australia as our population is so much smaller with far less buying power.
Cheers,
Phil.
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Amazon has a UHD player for $ 62 Magnafox brand, and some good choices around a $ 100. Mine is a 2 year old Samsung 8500 from Costco.
I had an email indicating that a menu will be added to UHD creator fairly soon. I bought that software for $29 over two month ago and it was a dud, after some updates now I am glad I did.
Eugene
Eugene, I downloaded the trial version of DVDFab UHD Creator, and, with a bit of help from the creators was able to burn my 4K UHD video onto a 25GB Blu-ray disc.
I read somewhere that Xbox One S (and X of course) can play 4K UHD discs so I tried it in there. It played but the colours were far too saturated with all the detail missing. Maybe my boys can look at changing the setting later on.
So this afternoon I took the disc to a Hi Fi store where they had an Oppo 4K UHD player hooked up to a projector showing on a huge screen. It worked perfectly with no over-saturated colours.
This convinced me that the DVDFab software had worked perfectly so I went to JB HiFi who had a special on a Sony UPB-X800 for $380.
Then it was time to compare the 4K video on the USB Memory stick with the 4K video on the 25GB Blu-ray disc.
The video on the Blu-ray disc looked perfect and just the same as that on the USB thumb drive.
Pausing on a close-up of a white daisy flower suggested identical level of detail on both media! The same result with a purple/claret daisy flower!
Thanks again Eugene! A great result!
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Any 4K burning software yet?
The answer is yes. Sort of, in a way, better than nothing etc.
UHD CREATOR allows the burning of my AX100 camcorder 4K material, (edited in PD14), onto a 25/50GB disc and then to be played on a regular UHD BR player.
The software is similar to TsMuxer, there is no menu, chapters are automaticallly created every 5 min and it is possible to burn more than 1 title at a time.
Any BR burner will do just fine. UHD-C converts my 8bit 4K 264 or 265 video to 10 bit, creates the proper BDM/CERTIFICATE files that I then burn onto a usually 25GB BR disc, using IMG burn or Roxy.
UHD-C conversion from 8 to 10 bit was painfully slow with a GTX960 but the addition af a GTX1060 solved that problem, conversion is app 2x real time.
Picture quality is excellent.
So that is all there is and most likely all there will ever be.
Eugene
Thanks so much Eugene for that.
When I did a search for UHD Creator it came up with this link - https://dvdfab.cn/uhd-creator.htm
Thanks CL for not allowing copy and paste of URL's!
Which also comes up with a pop-up to receive 50% off Exclusive to Existing Customers.
So the $59 no doubt USD would be about $29.50 if you are already a customer.
Now I will have to see how much UHD DVD players are and see if I can afford both.
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I am making a video of 100 photos with a music track.
Each photo is joined to the next photo by a Fade Transition and made to happen at the beat of the music..
The choice is either Overlap or Cross.
I have chosen Cross but alas they are all clearly showing as Overlap. This is evidenced by the next photo starting to show at the same time as the Fade Transition starts to take effect on the previous photo.
Am I doing something wrong?
Or will the finished video show the correct Cross Fade effect?
If so, this is very misleading.
Another problem is that if I want to add a Zoom In special effect to each photo this causes some difficulties with the (Cross) Fade Transition. As soon as the cursor touches the Cross Fade Transition the next photo is beginning to Zoom in but when it actually reaches the join between the two photos the second photo immediately zooms out to full size.
Or again is this not what will show in the finished video?
Hi Phil
Have you selected "overlap" in Preferences Editing? Have you tried giving the photos a longer duration? Lastly, have you considered the "Motion" slideshow. By what you describe I would say it's just what you want as it is fully customisable.
Worth a shot
Robert
Robert, Thanks for that advice. I also found a video explaining the Preferences in Editing and was surprised to see it was set at Overlap so I changed it to Cross. I never knew this existed before and have made several similar videos using photos.
I was equally surprised to see from the video that I needed to manually place a Fade Cross Transition at the end of one photo and again at the beginning of the next photo to get the effect I needed on all the photos between the first and last. Multiply that by 52 photos and that is a lot of manual placing of 104 Fade Cross Transitions with a duration of 1 second each. At the beginning and the end I use a longer Fade Transition.
The duration of the photos seems not to be a problem.
The Zoom In problem has been eliminated with using the Fade Cross Transitions.
Thanks again.
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I am making a video of 100 photos with a music track.
Each photo is joined to the next photo by a Fade Transition and made to happen at the beat of the music..
The choice is either Overlap or Cross.
I have chosen Cross but alas they are all clearly showing as Overlap. This is evidenced by the next photo starting to show at the same time as the Fade Transition starts to take effect on the previous photo.
Am I doing something wrong?
Or will the finished video show the correct Cross Fade effect?
If so, this is very misleading.
Another problem is that if I want to add a Zoom In special effect to each photo this causes some difficulties with the (Cross) Fade Transition. As soon as the cursor touches the Cross Fade Transition the next photo is beginning to Zoom in but when it actually reaches the join between the two photos the second photo immediately zooms out to full size.
Or again is this not what will show in the finished video?
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Cyberlink has always been a leader with new inovations. So I am wondering why there is no 4K UHD burning. What are the reasons?
Very disappointing, see no reason to buy since V14 has all the features I need.
Eugene
So we are still restricted to watching our home-made 4K videos on our 4K TV's using either a USB thumb drive or on YouTube after we have uploaded them.
What a sad state of affairs!
And why are Cyberlink silent on the matter?
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7PHIL77,
Even after owning a AX100 for about 3 1/2 years I am still amazed as to what it can do. The detail and color of
your video is just outstanding. Thanks for posting it
Eugene
Eugene,
Your Sony looks like it has good specs for 4K and in some ways similar to the new Sony RX10 IV.
Thanks for your comments on my video.
I used a tripod with the Panasonic FZ2500 and used the slow zoom buttons on the side of the lens.
Cinema 4K is 4096 pixels wide = 64x64, so (8x x (8x pixels wide or 16x16x16 or (8+x(8+x(8+.
Apparently there are 4096 web colours. Interesting how they arrive at these numbers.
Cheers,
Phil.
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Hello,
I never said that the burner does the authoring, not sure how you got that. What I did say is that it takes an incredible amount of processing and drive power to author a disc and new drives were needed in the past with the new technology. UHD is a new technology that requires a new drive, processor and motherboard to play, so expecting the Blu-ray burning laser to work burning should not be expected.
UHD discs have three layers on one side and will need new burning laser and firmware for the task. If it is possible to provide UHD BD burning, from what I have learned about CL is they usually want to be the first. I would not expect it as a simple search will tell you that there are no UHD burners out there yet. I guess we'll find out next month for sure though.
Dave
It does not take " incredible processing and drive power" , my previous now 8 year old pc did it just fine, for UHD you simply need more time since there is more data. And the burning time is limited by the disc and that has not changed much over the last 3 years or more. The main reason I got a new optical drive was to accomodate the new BDXL format.
My first experience with UHD was in March 2014, I was able to edit 4K using PD12 ? and burn to BR as a file and play pack w/o problems on an i7 in 4K using a $60 GPU. Changing that to a $180 GTX960 made a huge improvement in rendering time and allowed pb at 60 fps. rather than 30.
For UHD you do not need to burn 3 layers, 66GB discs are available pressed only, you can only buy 3 layer 100GB blancs.
Using HEVC a 2 layer 50GB disc can give us 2 hours, and 50GB blancs are a UHD standard. I have some commercial UHD 50 GB disc videos.
I too hope that CL will want to be the first, they had a whole year to cook this up.
So UHD is no big deal, same bunch of numbers only at a faster rate, assuming you have a good GPU, the CPU is not that critical any more for video editing.
I think that PCs that can do HD w/o stutter will be just fine with UHD as long as shadow files are used.
Eugene
Eugene, What a fascinating discussion above! Helpful to one who is not really up to speed with the latest technological developments like me!
Well 4k has been around for a couple of years now in both TV's and cameras of all brands and still we can't burn 4K onto a Blu Ray disc. It seems that the only way enthusiasts can see 4K/UHD on their TV's is via USB memory sticks and even then mine won't play MP4 audio which I had to convert to .MKV to play the audio. This too on a Panasonic Blu Ray player from a Panasonic camera! Ha! Don't the Lumix Dept talk to the Blu Ray Dep't?
Someone on Google search said you can stream 4K video via Windows Media Player to your 4K TV but I couldn't make that work.
But we are all used to burning Blu Ray discs for HD videos and we would automatically expect the technology to keep pace with 4K TV's and 4K Blu Ray players. So why isn't it?
And all the time I am inundated with Cyberlink ads pushing me to buy PD15 just before they bring out PD16 so it seems. Mmmm! And some here are hoping for PD16 to be able to burn 4K discs.
Is that likely to be the case now that we are well into September, 2017?
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you are an oldtimer! It must have been fascinating to see all these various inovations as they appeared over the years!. I used to be a user of Pinnacle for a very long time but changed to PD when P* failed to keep their software up to the prevailing standards. In particular the absence of proxy editing, it's lack made it difficult to editit HD on a slow PC.
So here we are approaching an other milestone, UHD burning, and we will find out in a few weeks if our hopes are fullfilled. Unfortunately at this time there is no other software to switch to. Last year rumors circulated that UHD burning was not incorporated in PD15, that proved to be true. So far nothing this year, apparently samples of PD16 have not gone out yet.
I wonder why CL has these end of version sales, buyers invariably will feel cheated when they discover that a new version appeared shortly after purchase.
Google " amazing 4K flowers" on youtube, it is perhaps the best video I have ever seen and it plays just fine in 4$ using the Window player. A lot depends on the video card.
Let's keep our fingers crossed.
Eugene
Saw the flowers 4K video a few days ago now and it was very good.
It provoked me to do my first trial C4K video on the flowers (daisey-like) in my back yard which can be seen on YT by entering the title - "Cinema 4K Daiseys trial video".
And why doesn't CL let you copy and paste URL's? Crikey!
ATM the only way I can play my own 4K videos on my TV is via USB stick in .mkv format.
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My Lumix FZ2500 films in 4K and C4K but can a disc be burned in 4K or C4K?
I can see that PD14 can create a file in 4K but not C4K.
I can see that PD14 in Create Disc seems not to have the 4K option available.
I am puzzled as to why it can create a file in 4K but not burn a disc in 4K.
Does this change in PD15?
My Hisense 4K TV will play the 4K and C4K files when converted to .MKV from a thumb drive but the Panasonic Blu Ray player will not.
Is there any way a disc can be burned in 4K or C4K?
If a disc can be burned in 4K or C4K is there a player that can play either please?
Thanks.
Q: Does this change in PD15?
A: No. In PD15, you have to choose the aspect ratio for the timeline. The 19:10 aspect ratio of C4K is not supported.
Q: Is there any way a disc can be burned in 4K or C4K?
A: Not with PD15, either. Sorry, I don't know a better answer. Burning disks is sooooooo 1990 
Hatti
Thanks Hatti,
On another thread others are hoping that when PD16 is released soon it will have the capability to burn 4K discs.
If burning discs is so 1990 then why have I and many people I know (and up to PowerDirector 14) still been using discs including Blu Ray discs for HD videos?
And if burning discs is so 1990 then what do the majority of people use to show their videos?
Thanks,
I have an external HD for Videos in H.264 (mp4 and mkv). I burnt my last disk around one year ago. I have a blueray burner, but honestly, I never used it for video.
Hatti
Hatti,
Ok, but my situation is that I video my kids' sports activities and sometimes the whole match which lasts and hour.
The Club then asks me to do 20 copies on a disc so each family plus coaches has a copy. This can be done in either std DVD or HD in Blu Ray.
And going back to video format compatibility, I also have another TV, a Samsung HD, and another Blu Ray player, a Samsung, both connected but neither will play .MP4 or .MKV files. They are not the latest models so it may be different with the current ones.
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My Lumix FZ2500 films in 4K and C4K but can a disc be burned in 4K or C4K?
I can see that PD14 can create a file in 4K but not C4K.
I can see that PD14 in Create Disc seems not to have the 4K option available.
I am puzzled as to why it can create a file in 4K but not burn a disc in 4K.
Does this change in PD15?
My Hisense 4K TV will play the 4K and C4K files when converted to .MKV from a thumb drive but the Panasonic Blu Ray player will not.
Is there any way a disc can be burned in 4K or C4K?
If a disc can be burned in 4K or C4K is there a player that can play either please?
Thanks.
Q: Does this change in PD15?
A: No. In PD15, you have to choose the aspect ratio for the timeline. The 19:10 aspect ratio of C4K is not supported.
Q: Is there any way a disc can be burned in 4K or C4K?
A: Not with PD15, either. Sorry, I don't know a better answer. Burning disks is sooooooo 1990
Hatti
Thanks Hatti,
On another thread others are hoping that when PD16 is released soon it will have the capability to burn 4K discs.
If burning discs is so 1990 then why have I and many people I know (and up to PowerDirector 14) still been using discs including Blu Ray discs for HD videos?
And if burning discs is so 1990 then what do the majority of people use to show their videos?
Thanks,
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I never said that the burner does the authoring, not sure how you got that. What I did say is that it takes an incredible amount of processing and drive power to author a disc and new drives were needed in the past with the new technology. UHD is a new technology that requires a new drive, processor and motherboard to play, so expecting the Blu-ray burning laser to work burning should not be expected.
UHD discs have three layers on one side and will need new burning laser and firmware for the task. If it is possible to provide UHD BD burning, from what I have learned about CL is they usually want to be the first. I would not expect it as a simple search will tell you that there are no UHD burners out there yet. I guess we'll find out next month for sure though.
Dave
It does not take " incredible processing and drive power" , my previous now 8 year old pc did it just fine, for UHD you simply need more time since there is more data. And the burning time is limited by the disc and that has not changed much over the last 3 years or more. The main reason I got a new optical drive was to accomodate the new BDXL format.
My first experience with UHD was in March 2014, I was able to edit 4K using PD12 ? and burn to BR as a file and play pack w/o problems on an i7 in 4K using a $60 GPU. Changing that to a $180 GTX960 made a huge improvement in rendering time and allowed pb at 60 fps. rather than 30.
For UHD you do not need to burn 3 layers, 66GB discs are available pressed only, you can only buy 3 layer 100GB blancs.
Using HEVC a 2 layer 50GB disc can give us 2 hours, and 50GB blancs are a UHD standard. I have some commercial UHD 50 GB disc videos.
I too hope that CL will want to be the first, they had a whole year to cook this up.
So UHD is no big deal, same bunch of numbers only at a faster rate, assuming you have a good GPU, the CPU is not that critical any more for video editing.
I think that PCs that can do HD w/o stutter will be just fine with UHD as long as shadow files are used.
Eugene
Eugene, What a fascinating discussion above! Helpful to one who is not really up to speed with the latest technological developments like me!
Well 4k has been around for a couple of years now in both TV's and cameras of all brands and still we can't burn 4K onto a Blu Ray disc. It seems that the only way enthusiasts can see 4K/UHD on their TV's is via USB memory sticks and even then mine won't play MP4 audio which I had to convert to .MKV to play the audio. This too on a Panasonic Blu Ray player from a Panasonic camera! Ha! Don't the Lumix Dept talk to the Blu Ray Dep't?
Someone on Google search said you can stream 4K video via Windows Media Player to your 4K TV but I couldn't make that work.
But we are all used to burning Blu Ray discs for HD videos and we would automatically expect the technology to keep pace with 4K TV's and 4K Blu Ray players. So why isn't it?
And all the time I am inundated with Cyberlink ads pushing me to buy PD15 just before they bring out PD16 so it seems. Mmmm! And some here are hoping for PD16 to be able to burn 4K discs.
Is that likely to be the case now that we are well into September, 2017?
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7PHIL77,
you are an oldtimer! It must have been fascinating to see all these various inovations as they appeared over the years!. I used to be a user of Pinnacle for a very long time but changed to PD when P* failed to keep their software up to the prevailing standards. In particular the absence of proxy editing, it's lack made it difficult to editit HD on a slow PC.
So here we are approaching an other milestone, UHD burning, and we will find out in a few weeks if our hopes are fullfilled. Unfortunately at this time there is no other software to switch to. Last year rumors circulated that UHD burning was not incorporated in PD15, that proved to be true. So far nothing this year, apparently samples of PD16 have not gone out yet.
I wonder why CL has these end of version sales, buyers invariably will feel cheated when they discover that a new version appeared shortly after purchase.
Google " amazing 4K flowers" on youtube, it is perhaps the best video I have ever seen and it plays just fine in 4$ using the Window player. A lot depends on the video card.
Let's keep our fingers crossed.
Eugene
Eugene,
Yes, I started with Pinnacle too on an Intel P4 computer back in the day and experienced numerous problems and eventually changed over to CL.
I will have a look at that "Flowers" 4K YT video soon and interestingly enough my first test footage in 4K has been of my back garden including zoomed-in close ups of the flowers, adding music to the existing audio. I will now go and take some steadier footage using a tripod hoping to improve the whole look and making it good enough for uploading to YT.
One of the websites I went to had a test which said my GPU wasn't good enough for playing back 4K video so I may have to look at that although I have not had any problems so far except with my CL PD14 where several times it would not import my converted .MKV files last night. So I had to import the MP4 ones for the above test video.
Cheers,
Phil in Australia.
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I never said that the burner does the authoring, not sure how you got that. What I did say is that it takes an incredible amount of processing and drive power to author a disc and new drives were needed in the past with the new technology. UHD is a new technology that requires a new drive, processor and motherboard to play, so expecting the Blu-ray burning laser to work burning should not be expected.
UHD discs have three layers on one side and will need new burning laser and firmware for the task. If it is possible to provide UHD BD burning, from what I have learned about CL is they usually want to be the first. I would not expect it as a simple search will tell you that there are no UHD burners out there yet. I guess we'll find out next month for sure though.
Dave
It does not take " incredible processing and drive power" , my previous now 8 year old pc did it just fine, for UHD you simply need more time since there is more data. And the burning time is limited by the disc and that has not changed much over the last 3 years or more. The main reason I got a new optical drive was to accomodate the new BDXL format.
My first experience with UHD was in March 2014, I was able to edit 4K using PD12 ? and burn to BR as a file and play pack w/o problems on an i7 in 4K using a $60 GPU. Changing that to a $180 GTX960 made a huge improvement in rendering time and allowed pb at 60 fps. rather than 30.
For UHD you do not need to burn 3 layers, 66GB discs are available pressed only, you can only buy 3 layer 100GB blancs.
Using HEVC a 2 layer 50GB disc can give us 2 hours, and 50GB blancs are a UHD standard. I have some commercial UHD 50 GB disc videos.
I too hope that CL will want to be the first, they had a whole year to cook this up.
So UHD is no big deal, same bunch of numbers only at a faster rate, assuming you have a good GPU, the CPU is not that critical any more for video editing.
I think that PCs that can do HD w/o stutter will be just fine with UHD as long as shadow files are used.
Eugene
Eugene, What a fascinating discussion above! Helpful to one who is not really up to speed with the latest technological developments like me!
Well 4k has been around for a couple of years now in both TV's and cameras of all brands and still we can't burn 4K onto a Blu Ray disc. It seems that the only way enthusiasts can see 4K/UHD on their TV's is via USB memory sticks and even then mine won't play MP4 audio which I had to convert to .MKV to play the audio. This too on a Panasonic Blu Ray player from a Panasonic camera! Ha! Don't the Lumix Dept talk to the Blu Ray Dep't?
Someone on Google search said you can stream 4K video via Windows Media Player to your 4K TV but I couldn't make that work.
But we are all used to burning Blu Ray discs for HD videos and we would automatically expect the technology to keep pace with 4K TV's and 4K Blu Ray players. So why isn't it?
And all the time I am inundated with Cyberlink ads pushing me to buy PD15 just before they bring out PD16 so it seems. Mmmm! And some here are hoping for PD16 to be able to burn 4K discs.
Is that likely to be the case now that we are well into September, 2017?
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My Lumix FZ2500 films in 4K and C4K but can a disc be burned in 4K or C4K?
I can see that PD14 can create a file in 4K but not C4K.
I can see that PD14 in Create Disc seems not to have the 4K option available.
I am puzzled as to why it can create a file in 4K but not burn a disc in 4K.
Does this change in PD15?
My Hisense 4K TV will play the 4K and C4K files when converted to .MKV from a thumb drive but the Panasonic Blu Ray player will not.
Is there any way a disc can be burned in 4K or C4K?
If a disc can be burned in 4K or C4K is there a player that can play either please?
Thanks.
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I doubt whether there is any 'main street' application nowadays that does not routinely 'call home'. I don't have a problem with it in fact I appreciate it if it incorporates an alert to users of available updates and bug fixes. It is an absolutely essential part of controlling software piracy which I hate with a vengeance!
Cyberlink sometimes go a little o.t.t. with their marketing pop-ups but I do recognise that they like all other software developers have a problem with maintaining an income stream. I do not like the annual releases driven more by income generation than improvement although I may be in a minority in seeing them that way.
There is absolutley no doubt in my mind that the real guilty party when things suddenly stop working as they should is Microsoft. Heaven forbid that other applications ever start updating and overwriting installed software without the owners permission as happens with the O.S.
Are you running Windows 10 by any chance Phil ? 
Yes, Windows 10 but all this jittery delayed action only started today when I received another different ad telling me that this last discount offer only lasts till the end of the month.
I don't need to upgrade every time they bring out an upgraded version and can easily get by for at least two upgrades and save myself the sum of about $70 each time. Whatever they are adding on or improving will make little difference to me.
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