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Hey angale123 maybe attaching a dxdiag (http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/45453.page - PART B) file in your next response might be a good idea. That'll help help those that can help with such.
The Screen Capture - PART E of that same link.
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Dance Recital
180/60p
AVCHD
1. What DVD players do all the people you are going to share this with have? ... as in do they all HAVE Blu-Ray Disc players?
2. What video quality do you want to make this project? are you happy with 720x480 or is the HD resolution something you really want to have? - this relates to question 1 though.
Answers to these and considering what tomasc and HDedit has stated ... will refine your direction.
There is 25GB and 50 GB BD discs if you go that direction.
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A year ago I had taken many GoPro video clips with the Hero4 Silver version of the camera. I created a couple of projects that were over an hour in duration. I created and burned Blu-Ray DVDs with this computer - had to buy a Blu-Ray (BD) disc burner for the computer in order to burn HD BDs though.
The specs of my computer system is listed at the bottom of my thread window.
I had some choppiness in PREVIEW playback - but I could work/live with it. I think the more clips I had in the editing room, the more transitions & editing I did to the clips, greatly affected the processing in the CPU/GPU and THIS leads to the PREVIEW choppiness. The CPU and GPU processors are dealing with A LOT of information when they are working on video clips that have whatever you might have done with/to them - not limited to but might include - any color correction or lighting adjustments - I think transitions and the like even contribute to the load that is sent to the CPU/GPU. I think all this leads to whether the PREVIEW flows along as expected or if you get a choppy preview.
What sort of computer specs are you working with? What is your hardware configuration?
Bottom line though, I was able to edit and burn several BD dvds at the 1920-1080/60p choice - in PD13.
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Robert, Thanks - I understood Tony and understand that this works in PD13 also. Thank you though for the follow up.
Thanks to the rest of you guys too for responding!
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Just corrected my last entry. I have PD13.
Where would I find this 3D Outer Space slideshow ... um.. item then? Is it a transition or some sort of other template - where would it be listed? I'd like to find it.
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This is just in PD14 isn't it? Is the 3D Outer Space Slideshow - is that a transition in PD14 or where does it exit in PD14 (just curious as I still only have PD14
edit adding the following: <---NOT CORRECT.. I have PD13)?
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Now THIS is... good stuff! Now if I can only get the courage to go into the xml files and screw everything up (like Barry stated previously). lol
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Definitely attach the Dxdiag like Steve suggested.
Have you tried an audio file of mp3 format in the project and what are the results when you 'produce' that?
When you say 'During playback...' are you saying that when you see and hear it during 'preview' in the editing room?
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But they should expect the resulting video quality/appearance may degrage with compressing it down some like they want to do correct?
Whether they can actually see that degradation, that's up to them to decide if that is acceptable. But going from 11 some GB to 8.5GB ... or going from the 20Mbps frame rate down to whatever SmartFit takes it down to - there very likely will be some loss in visual quality of the video content correct? As I said, might be insignificant or more noticeable but they'll have to be the judge on if it's acceptable.
I'm not trying to make broad statements as if I'm the expert - but I hope additional comment might educate me on this.
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I was waiting to see what Tony would say but....tomasc... you've provided the anticipated response that I expected. lol.... ![]()
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I am just really starting to read and understand a little more about Bit Rates. If you choose a high bit rate during or before you produce or burn your final output project, I am understanding that this will produce large files but the video quality may be better as a result of using them in the encoding (rendering) process. But just how big a file are you willing to work with -? only you can answer - and you do seem to have an issue with file size from the original post(OP).
Tell you what - google is your friend - I've read a little about bit rates - so google them and you'll have more than enough to read.
I'm not sure that the higher video quality using higher bit rates in the rendering process will be noticeable since you are only working with 1280x720/30p source video clips. Perhaps someone can correct me on this but 1280-720/30p and this is not that high of a resolution to begin with.
I am NOT an expert in this matter but look forward to any that do comment to learn more.
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If I understand correctly, compression will impact quality of the videos appearance (if not, please correct me folks). Also, I'm not sure about this but going from 11.5 GB to 8.5 is a pretty significant amount of compression that will take place.
Another point you might like to inquire about is - does the this 8.5 GB disc choice, Neil refers to, limit the overall video's maximum resolution capability? I know the 'standard' DVD disc limits the resolution to a lower level (I can't remember it right at the moment) I think down to 480 - Does the 8.5 disc do something similar? If so what lower level of resolution does it limit your production to and is that acceptable to you?
I've always read in here - Produce or Burn your disc with the same specs it was 'shot' at. Your source clips are at 1280x72030p - so you want to burn your discs at that same spec to get the maximum level of video quality. Whatever disc has that capability is the disc you want to use to burn to obviously - it just also needs to be a large enough capacity to put the entire 11.5GB - or whatever the size it turns out to be - on to that disc.
I know Blu-ray discs capacities are 25 and 50GB but that is a different format than the 1280x720 you shot with. So I do not think you want to go that route.
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May just give that a 'whirl' when I return home next week. Thanks Robert for the info and offer if I have any issues. THanks again.
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Now THOSE are a nice set of....errrm... tables!
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In all seriousness though - those are some nice tables to have to understand the approximate result from the stabilization process - on it's affect on the clip size. Thanks for doing all that work and sharing it!
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The problem with text communication is that - at times - one can NOT tell when others may be communicating in a more sarcastic vein than not - unless they are very explicit in their comments. Happens all the time in forums and chat rooms.
You guys are so talented in regard to this video editing stuff and yet can get muddled up in this issue. You guys are all better than that - I just know you are.
I think Robert was being sarcastic a bit there tomasc - maybe. But if not, so be it. Both of you have much to offer to those of us with lesser knowledge about this stuff.
Just hang in there guys - remain calm.
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Up till this point I haven't really felt like I had the 'need' to use the Magic+PD Robert. I'm not processing 4k (yet... and probably a long time away form doing this) - but I've seen the comments on the assistance it has on that sort of processing.
So the Magic+PD can take a MOV file input and convert to AVI? I don't mind the temporary file size issue. This might address the preview 'glitchiness' that I experience with large projects in previewing them also.
Just might have to take a look at it when I get home. Thanks for the suggestion Robert!
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Just saw the MediaInfo on the converted file and it doesn't look good for it being close to the original as far as the numbers appear.
Original clip: file size-14.2MB, overall bit rate-13.2 Mbps, FOrmat profile - QT, Codec ID- qt 0000.00 (qt)
COnverted clip: fs - 9MB, overall bit rate- 8.358 Mbps, FOrmat Profile - Base Media, Codec ID- isom(isom/iso2/avc1/mp41)
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PepsiMan - tomasc
Thanks for the replies.
PepsiMan- I'm guessing that Samsung movie converter v1.0.0.13 or Rockymountains movie converter v0.2.02.0 are a 'pay to play' sort of software. Probably worth it in the long run but I gotta try to do the cheap thing at least once (freeware versions of similar software).
Sorry about that tomasc - I usually delete stuff I upload after I get my result. However, I just converted another file and left it there if you wanted to try dld'g it and see how it holds up.
I think it should be at: http://www.online-convert.com/result/706634005b1757584658f7786f1e8229
This is a different file/video clip than the one in the OP. It is NOT a very good video but the benefit of this one is that it is only 9 seconds in duration!
I've seen the mention of handbrake before in this forum - will check that out. So are you saying Handbrake does a lossless conversion from MOV to mp4???
tomasc mentioned that "Converting mov to mp4 can be lossless if you are only changing the container of the video file and not the encoding." - so this begs the question: Does online-convert do this container change without encoding (or would this be re-encoding???) ?
THanks again guys.
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Besides dividing the original clip number of pixels by the resulting clip number of pixels - in either direction - vertical or horizontal - this would give you the fraction - decimal fraction of what the relationship would be.
In the picture Tony supplied(Stabiliser Calc.png) either
A: 1823 or 1824 divided by 1920 horizontal
B: 1024 or 1026 divided by 1080
A: 0.949479166666(repeating 6) for 1823
0.95 for 1824
B: 0.948148148(repeating one forty eight)for 1024
0.95 for 1026
close enough for some/most engineering accounts.
So Stabilizer set to 20 provides the resulting clip at about about 95% of original clip?!
I know you can divide too Tony - I'm not a math wiz either but these are the numbers I get.
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Really nice to see this sort of exchange of Q and A.
I've often wondered how much of the source video was taken off of the original clip when stabilization was applied and never really experimented to find out just how much.
But you two have nailed it down quite nicely. Thanks!
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I've uninstalled QuickTime since the latest notification of the security vulnerabilities were broadcast. My problem is that the FujiFIlm XP70 that I have captures in MOV-QT format. So if I try to drag and drop them into a timeline in a project, I get the expected error - attachment Err1.
So I thought a work around would be to convert the MOV to a different mp4 format. I went to this site "http://www.online-convert.com/result/579e2f69011a9f547ac03bcb6a2a771d" and converted the MOV to a mp4 file. MediaInfo taken before and after the conversion confirms that this happens. I can then successfully drag and drop the converted mp4 file into the PD13 timeline and work with it from there.
But I get to thinking and wonder if any sharpness, resolution or clarity of the original clip is reduced in the process. Does any of that happen due to codecs used in the conversion process? Am I even asking this previous question properly? - if not, please educate me so I don't sound so ignorant in asking such things.
Thanks
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