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Before Jaime-Esque "locks" this thread, I'd like to add one last thought. I think our Australian TV stations, even now with 16:9 wide-screen digital transmission, may still be 25 frames per second. My DVDs using that frame rate play okay through my TV's inbuilt player, so I'm guessing 25fps is still "ruling the roost" here!
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I also suffer from this problem, thanks to experts... 
Well, you know what's often said about experts.... Ex(X) is the "unknown quantity" and Spert(Spurt) is a drip under pressure  !
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Cheers, rbowser!(did it again! Spell-check bumped in and changed your name to "browser")
Hi-8, Hi-8, Hi-8, Hi-8-itty-date-de-date! (thought I'd have a bit of fun with it, a bit of levity, ol' chap!).
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Yeah, Carl, got that! Already sorted. Cheers!
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Carl312: "I once tried a $8 Device that the video captured was flipped upside down". That's okay Carl, you could always stand on your head to watch that video! But seriously, I believe PD8 and later versions have ways to correct these little "glitches". So all is not lost. In the meantime, buy a nice, soft cushion for the noggin!(ha-ha).
Cheers!
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Hi, rbowser, I'll remember for next time. It's just an annoyance when you're trying to describe older formats like Hi-8, a derivative of the Video-8 format, stick a bracket after the 8, and bang, you've got a smiley(emoticon).
Cheers for now!(spell-check just bumped in and "corrected" your user-name to "browser", these auto-correcting features can really hack you off when the "butt in" and alter what has been intentionally typed).
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Hi, 06ozarkjcw!
I wasn't aware capture cards were expensive in the USA. I was able to but a Kworld capture device at a fairly reasonable price here in Australia through a Jaycar Electronics franchise(though I forget how much I paid, it's been a while since I bought it). Look around, you may be able to get one fairly cheaply, somewhere.
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I recently shot a video of a rail motor preservation society located in the town of Paterson, about an hour's drive out of Maitland in NSW, Australia. With me was a friend whose camera shot in AVCHD video. I had no trouble mixing his clips and mine(MPEG-2) and producing to an MPEG-2 final product. I also converted his clips to MPEG-2 for him without any loss in image quality.
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As I'm given to understand this, 25fps is what the PAL standard requires to function properly, with 625 lines making each frame(scanning twice-per-second, odd lines first, then even) process repeated 25 times per each second because our power supply is 240-250 volts at 50Hz(cycles per second), this applies to Australia, NZ, Britain and several Euro countries where PAL colour broadcasting was(and is) used(though there were some hybrid variants). The American/Canadian TV broadcast system employed NTSC colour which was designed to operate on 117 volts at 60Hz, thus the frame rate was to be 24fps, the frames being made of 525 lines. Interestingly, we're a little over a week away from marking a milestone in Australian TV history, Sunday, 1st March, 2015(1-3-2015) marks the 40th Anniversary of official commencement of Colour TV in Australia. It's interesting to note that as countries upgraded their TV broadcasting to colour in the analogue days, they, nearly all of them, chose the superior German PAL system over the US NTSC or the woefully-inferior French SECAM system. They knew where the best quality was.
I should add that I was talking about analogue TV, not digital in my comments above.
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What is it with this site, when I'm describing a variant of Video-8, namely Hi-eight(spelt out to avoid getting the emoticon), that's what I do get, see my recent reply. I'm rather annoyed by this as it takes away from what I'm trying to explain. This problem needs sorting out, and soon!
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The loss in quality from HD to SD is somewhat minimal and hardly noticeable, but the plus is, a gain in capacity when burning to DVD, Using standard Definition, you can pack over 2 hours of content onto a DVD-5(single-layer) disc. And because you're working with digital media, there's no loss in image quality as long as you stay within the parameters of the definition you're using to edit your clips. There is, however, a notable loss in quality if you've been working in SD and drop your content down to LP, you'll see blurred image and pixilation on the resultant disc - not a good look at all(ugh!). But if you've gone the other way, start with the original in LP, then bump it up to SD, there is a slight image quality improvement. A good trick here is, if you're transferring content from an analogue source(VHS/Betamax/Video-8/Hi- , capture in LP mode(smaller file size of capture won't swallow up as much hard-drive space) then edit and produce in SD to an external hard-drive of 1 or 2 terabyte capacity. Hope that works for you
Cheers!
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Barry, I do wish you'd avoid that oh-so-ugly word "Do-able", Try "possible", "Achievable"! far better that that recently invented corruption of the auxiliary verb "Do". Hearing or seeing in print is like "fingers drawn down a blackboard". That said, my suggestion to 06ozarkjcw would be: try feeding your camera signal to your computer through a "capture card". This is a device used to connect analogue VHS or Betamax video decks or cameras, or early Video-8 or Hi-8 video cameras to a computer to transfer old taped home movies to MPG for editing. It might work, but there are no guarantees!
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Hi, Mona, Dead easy, ain't it? I produce ALL my videos to MPG(tried AVCHD once, but ONLY once, took ages to produce a half-hour clip...never do that again, nosiree!) After producing, I tuck my clips nicely away in folders to await a burn to DVD(got several that I shot last year, all edited and just sitting there waiting for me to find time to put 'em on disc!). Three cheers for Power Director! Hip-Hip....
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Hi, Zoner1! Chapters are really only there to cut a long-ish video down into digestible "bite-size" portions! I've upgraded from PD7 to PD8 about a year ago and one of the first things I noticed was that I could bypass the editing stage and go straight to the create DVD stage and add clips(that might be of, say, 30-minute length) and, if I desired, add chapters to them! Effectively sub-chapters, if you like!(I could set chapters manually at points where I wanted them, or automatically in two options: chapters spaced evenly or a given number of chapters) The video would still be 30 minutes in length but the option I was then given was: 1 - start from menu and play all items sequentially, 2 - Start from first title then play all sequentially, and 3 - play the selected title only. The last option would return to menu after playing each title. This wasn't a feature of PD7 but now, with PD8 I have made good use of the feature, especially when each video is unrelated to the previous one(a video scrap-book, maybe!).
Cheers for now!
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Hello, emmettfitz8394. I recently completed editing a fashion show which used two different camera shots(from different angles and married them together, using the audio of one of the clips and laying the other clip over it(superimposed). The process is somewhat involved so I may have to write it out separately and paste the text into one of these reply windows to explain how I did it. Before that tough, I'm going to have to work out how to word the explanation so its easy to understand and follow. Leave it with me and "watch this space!"
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This is another one where(sorry, Cyberlink, I've got to say this) an outside, or third party software option is best used to capture the content, be it from Hi8, VHS or Beta, then bring the captures into Power Director for editing and disc authoring(burning).
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Hi, everyone, A belated Happy New Year to you all! I've had the same trouble as Rixon when I had PD7, I've since bumped up to PD8 but, as yet have not done any VHS captures yet. About the only way around the problem is to use an outside(third party) software to "capture" the content, then bring the content over to Power Director for the editing process(and burning to disc).
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Can you not use the capture card to transfer material to the hard drive - then import it from there into PD or WMM?
Borgus1, the answer there is no. You need a programme like Power Director or earlier Windows Movie Maker(for Windows XP), or Pinnacle, or any other software intended for the purpose. The capture card itself cannot work autonomously to capture video content and put that content on the hard-drive in MPEG, WMV or any other video file type.
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Borgus1, I don't believe I've contradicted myself on this matter. I stated that Windows Movie Maker for Windows 7 is incapable of use with a capture card. The problem with Power Director(later than PD6) is that they "hiccup" on capturing, via card, any content fed in from a VHS video recorder(or Betamax, for that matter), on any "Noise" on the tape and put up the "copyright" warning. This on home-made VHS tapes. The suggestion is to use another programme to capture content, then import that captured content for editing on Power Director(7 or upwards, for argument's sake). This is where Windows Movie Maker fails because of that lack of provision for a capture card, if using the version for Windows 7. Windows XP's version had the provision for capture card use but Windows 7's version did not! Massive retrograde step on Microsoft's part! I've been discouraged to use any of my old VHS stuff for this reason, and have, instead, concentrated on content copied in from SD cards.
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I have heard the suggestion to produce the items rather than render. But then how do I get it to a playable DVD with full menu functions?
Render and Produce are one and the same task, divegirl! The terms are interchangeable. From my own experience, it's best to render/produce at DVD SP MPEG-2. The image quality is not lost and what is gained, is DVD capacity. The video is rendered(or produced, if you wish to use that term) quickly, even without using SVRT, and you can put up to 2 hours and 20 minutes on a standard DVD+R or DVD-R disc. One thing I did recently, and experience tells me not to do again, is to render a video in AVCHD -Oh boy! A 25-minute video on the Paterson Rail Motor Society(up past Maitland, NSW Australia) took close to an hour-and-a-half to render. The exact same video rendered in MPEG-2 at DVD SP took barely more that 3-to-5 minutes, Blink and you miss it! It's that quick!. For any other material that I submit to community TV operator, Hunter TV(unfortunately only on-line via the net at the moment), I will compromise and do them as MPEG-2 DVD HQ but not with menu, I'll drag & drop the content as a file, using the disc like a flash-drive.
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The original thread has been locked so I cannot make this comment there but the suggestion was made to use Windows Movie Maker to "capture" content before importing same into a Power Director programme for editing. This if fine if you're using Windows XP(service pack 3) but if you're using Windows 7, you'll find that Windows Movie Maker has ABSOLUTELY NO PROVISION for recording from external sources via capture card. I thought I should point this out to anyone who might be thinking of trying Windows Movie Maker for that purpose. Quite frankly, Windows Movie Maker falls down in a number of points. Ease of use when editing, it also renders some clips into monochrome against the user's intentions, and of course the lack of the capture option, you can only edit content already imported via other programmes. Trying Windows Movie maker myself shortly after getting this Windows 7-based computer, I soon saw its shortcomings and thus I no longer use it for ANY purpose.
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