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06ozarkjcw
Newbie Location: Northwest Arkansas Joined: Mar 06, 2012 14:29 Messages: 4 Offline
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Is there a way to capture from a mini DV camcorder set to A/V-DV OUT directly into Power Director 9 without having to record first onto a mini DV cassette? Whenever I attempt this I get the pop up message that there is no tape in the camcorder. By the time you start thinking about a bucket list, the bucket should be almost full.
James Dotson
Senior Contributor Location: Tennessee Joined: Aug 24, 2009 20:40 Messages: 3066 Offline
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You want to capture a live stream? I don't think so. I haven't tried it with newer version, but as of version 11 i don't think that would work. __________________________________
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BarryTheCrab
Senior Contributor Location: USA Joined: Nov 06, 2008 22:18 Messages: 6240 Offline
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Or are you using the DV camera as a pass-thru?
What exactly are you doing, and what are the models of your camera or devices? HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
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Tape capture using 6 VCR, TBC-1000, Elite BVP4+, Sony D8 camcorder with TBC.
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06ozarkjcw
Newbie Location: Northwest Arkansas Joined: Mar 06, 2012 14:29 Messages: 4 Offline
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I am using a Sony DCR-TRV38 mini DV camcorder as an analog to digital converter. Cyberlink recognizes the camcorder and allows full control for capturing from the DV tape in the camera. I am trying to capture from an analog video source to digital using Powerdirector 9 ultra 64 bit without having to first record the analog video onto a mini DV tape. I can't figure a way to pass straight through to power director using the TRV38 in camera analog to digital converter. I have heard this can be done, don't remember where. Meanwhile, I record from the analog video source onto a mini DV tape, then I capture in Power Director from the DV tape. I guess there are some advantages to this, tape backup and being able to edit out unwanted footage during capture, but the disadvantage is that I am essentially capturing everything twice. First to DV tape, then from tape to Power Director. I have a bunch of old Beta and VHS video as well as 8mm films to transfer to digital. This could take forever.
Thanks for your help By the time you start thinking about a bucket list, the bucket should be almost full.
BarryTheCrab
Senior Contributor Location: USA Joined: Nov 06, 2008 22:18 Messages: 6240 Offline
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Try Windows Movie Maker.
You do not need to re-record onto DV.
What you are attempting is quite do-able, but not always easy.
I wish I kept my old Canon MiniDV to check on the method.

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HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
Nvidia GTX 960(4GB)/16GB DDR3/
Canon Vixia HV30/HF-M40/HF-M41/HF-G20/Olympus E-PL5.
Tape capture using 6 VCR, TBC-1000, Elite BVP4+, Sony D8 camcorder with TBC.
https://www.facebook.com/BarryAFTT
borgus1 [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Joined: Feb 27, 2013 00:33 Messages: 1318 Offline
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See if this helps...
http://www.digitalpreservation.gov/personalarchiving/documents/video-transfer.pdf
James Dotson
Senior Contributor Location: Tennessee Joined: Aug 24, 2009 20:40 Messages: 3066 Offline
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I never could get PD to do this. I used a third party capture program and imported that to PD. The problem was when i pressed record in PD it wanted to control the dv camcoder I was using as a digital to analog converter and would not recognize the original analog source camera. __________________________________
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tomasc [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Joined: Aug 25, 2011 12:33 Messages: 6464 Offline
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Jaime-esque - I remember a post that I answered where a user claimed that he could capture analog video with his DV camcorder used as a pass-through with PD12 using a trick that he came up with. See this post: http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/41269.page#213245 . I never tried his method but heard that others are successful with windv or scenalyzer using the link I posted on that thread.
James Dotson
Senior Contributor Location: Tennessee Joined: Aug 24, 2009 20:40 Messages: 3066 Offline
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Thanks, tomasc. I have not tried again since PD 10. __________________________________
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06ozarkjcw
Newbie Location: Northwest Arkansas Joined: Mar 06, 2012 14:29 Messages: 4 Offline
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Thanks for all the replys. Guess I'll just stay with the way I've been doing it (analog to DV tape, DV tape to PD9). This does have 3 advantages. 1. You can pre edit out video during capture from the DV tape. 2. It saves lots of room on your hard drive. 3. You can reuse the DV tapes or use them to archive the unedited digital video files. The down side is just that it takes longer. By the time you start thinking about a bucket list, the bucket should be almost full.
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Barry, I do wish you'd avoid that oh-so-ugly word "Do-able", Try "possible", "Achievable"! far better that that recently invented corruption of the auxiliary verb "Do". Hearing or seeing in print is like "fingers drawn down a blackboard". That said, my suggestion to 06ozarkjcw would be: try feeding your camera signal to your computer through a "capture card". This is a device used to connect analogue VHS or Betamax video decks or cameras, or early Video-8 or Hi-8 video cameras to a computer to transfer old taped home movies to MPG for editing. It might work, but there are no guarantees!
06ozarkjcw
Newbie Location: Northwest Arkansas Joined: Mar 06, 2012 14:29 Messages: 4 Offline
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Thanks Neil, I have considered the capture card route. I even researched them online for availablilty. To get a good card cost $$$. I don't want to dump more cost into this project. My current method from analog to DV tape using an old Sony TRV38 and them capturing from the DV tape works okay as long as you capture in .avi. (Captures in .mov and .mpeg4 are not so good). It just takes longer. By the time you start thinking about a bucket list, the bucket should be almost full.
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Hi, 06ozarkjcw!
I wasn't aware capture cards were expensive in the USA. I was able to but a Kworld capture device at a fairly reasonable price here in Australia through a Jaycar Electronics franchise(though I forget how much I paid, it's been a while since I bought it). Look around, you may be able to get one fairly cheaply, somewhere.
Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
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In the USA a good quality Capture device will probably cost around $50 USD or more.
You can buy cheap Capture devices for as little as around $10 USD, but the quality and driver software may not work well in Powerdirector.

I once tried a $8 Device that the video captured was flipped upside down.

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Carl312: "I once tried a $8 Device that the video captured was flipped upside down". That's okay Carl, you could always stand on your head to watch that video! But seriously, I believe PD8 and later versions have ways to correct these little "glitches". So all is not lost. In the meantime, buy a nice, soft cushion for the noggin!(ha-ha).
Cheers!
Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
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Quote: Carl312: "I once tried a $8 Device that the video captured was flipped upside down". That's okay Carl, you could always stand on your head to watch that video! But seriously, I believe PD8 and later versions have ways to correct these little "glitches". So all is not lost. In the meantime, buy a nice, soft cushion for the noggin!(ha-ha).
Cheers!

I don't think so!

It was planned to upload that captured video directly from the camera. Could not use a upside down video on the web.

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Carl, hi! What I was referring to is "Video rotation" in "Power Tools". If the captured video is "upside down" you can rotate it in the editing process(I believe up to 270 degrees). This should correct the effect by rotating 180 degrees. So uploading directly from the camera(I assume to YouTube) would be a non-starter. In any case, wouldn't you want to "tidy up" the video first before putting it out for everyone to see via YouTube?

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Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
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Quote: Carl, hi! What I was referring to is "Video rotation" in "Power Tools". If the captured video is "upside down" you can rotate it in the editing process(I believe up to 270 degrees). This should correct the effect by rotating 180 degrees. So uploading directly from the camera(I assume to YouTube) would be a non-starter. In any case, wouldn't you want to "tidy up" the video first before putting it out for everyone to see via YouTube?

Yes, you can rotate a video in Powertools if you are editing the video in Powerdirector. You can also rotate the clip in the preview.

In this case, the capture was to go from the camera (Security Camera) to be uploaded to a web site. Real time camera view.
There was no editor involved. The capture needed to be correctly oriented.

We are talking about capture devices. Second, editing in Powerdirector.

A capture device is very important because it is the source of your video from VCR, DV camera and any other Composite or S-Video source.
You can spend from about $10 up to around $200 for a capture device. The more money you spend, the more likely you get a better quality Video capture.

If you want the best SD capture, get a 'Time Base Corrector'.
Grass Valley makes one or two.
Carl312: Windows 10 64-bit 8 GB RAM,AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 GHz,ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB,240GB SSD,two 1TB HDs.

Fenman
Senior Contributor Location: Cambridge, UK Joined: Nov 24, 2011 04:44 Messages: 731 Offline
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You could always have turned the camera upside down.... Regards,
Mike

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Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
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Quote: You could always have turned the camera upside down....

The mount would not allow that.

It is not a cell phone.
Carl312: Windows 10 64-bit 8 GB RAM,AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 GHz,ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB,240GB SSD,two 1TB HDs.

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