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I keep doing this, and if PD is cooperative I might have a full project in this main project.
If not, I have the pre-produced bits.
oh, and Nina, I didn't quite understand this statement....can you clarify?
Thanks, Jenny.
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Nina, I'm trying your workflow...well an amended style of it, as I was in the middle of my project when I wrote this post.
Now I'm pre-producing parts of the video. I'm using the 'range' produce, as you suggested.
I had difficulty producing the 'range' due to jittery video. Funny, if I cut the rest of the video and 'save as' a new project ..ie part 1. the project is not jittery. I think it had something to do with 'shadow files'. The shadow file setting has been unchecked, and seems better. (so annoying, I've been very confused by the jittery outputs).
Anyway, producing in parts.
Hoping I can get them all together in a new project, AND end up with all the assets in the project...maybe have to use the original one to do the packing.
I've had a lot of difficulty with this particular project. Its disappointing.
At the moment, one 10 minute sequence has taken 1 hour 22 minutes (and is at 86%)
There was not much svrt, only 5% but a lot of the clips had colour director, enhancements etc. But really?? 1.5hrs for 10 minutes seems rather extreme. Hasn't mattered what I did, still super slow.
Oh well, your workflow seems to be working for this very annoying project.
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oh!!! I had no idea about most of that information. Thankyou so much, the export button was not something I imagined made the firm copy of my edited photo.
Thankyou, you've made things a lot easier.
The visuals are great too.
Jenny
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Am doing a home movie, same as all my other home movies, but this time PD13 not PD11.
In production, my entire movie is jittery, artifacty.
I understand that it may be partly due to different file formats in my timeline, so 'produced range' of .mov files on their own, and a range of .m2ts files on their own, no difference. Both mini productions are still jittery. So NOT combination of files, I don't think.
Have AVCHD 50i 25fps. clips for the most part.
It must be something to do with my settings??? or production choices???
Can anyone help.
Settings are :In General > frame rate 25fps
> enable HD video processing shadow file - Y (could this be problem?)
In Display > preview high.
In Hardware Acceleration > enable open CL technology.. Y
> Enable Hardware encoder Y
In Produce> reduce blocky artifacts Y.
> Reduce video noise Y
X Don't allow SVRT on single IRD ....
Please find attached 3 screen shots.
1. first few .mov files (they're only at the front 2 mins of prod) with properties open.
2. 95% m2ts files with properties open
3. Prod page with production file format choices etc.
I realise that I may not be able to produce the .mov files and the 'm2ts files together. But even separately they're jittery.
What am I doing wrong??? I've fiddled with settings, but can't find anything wrong.
oh, and AMD Radeon HD 7800 series with updated driver.
Preview at High, not HD.....
Windows 7, 64 bit, Intel i7 processor.
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You possibly have same problem as me, though I found it related to any enhance/fix clip.
When I added anything from the enhance/fix button - ie colour fix or white balance, color director etc.... my video slows and freezes, the audio keeps going, then video jumps to the last clip in the sequence and stops...audio stillgoing.
Soooo annoying. Can't preview my work.
Jittery in production too.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PupzbUKDtEo
This is the 'starting with Power Director 13 tutorial.....
Can anyone tell me how to create, or where to find the template, or pip, frame or whatever it is that makes the 'frames' in this tutorial at around 16 seconds in.?
I've been looking for frames like this.
I'm not quite sure what it is I'm seeing,....a frame template? pip? motion object??
I'd love to know how to do the 'spinning' photos in the right hand frame too, if anyone can tell me please. Can't see it in 'slideshow'
with thanks, Jenny,.
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I had a pip in one of my titles disappear yesterday (go black) when I was resizing it to give it motion around the screen.
The only way I could 'find' it again, was to place the clip in question on a different video line....somewhat below Line 1 and others I was using.
It seemed to be falling 'below' other clips, instead of in the correct order above them. (so being covered.)
Try moving it to a lower video line, that might help ?
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Learnt something new too, thanks Barry.
Re disappearing interface. Not restricted to Nvidia, I have an AMD radeon hd 7800series and mine disappears occasionally, only with 13 though, it never happened with 11 for me. I mouse over, but now I'll try max, min.
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Wow -my first 'help'. Usually it's me getting the help. 
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I'm pretty new to PowerDirector too, but I've learned that the preview window is best set to 'high' or 'normal' preview (they're middle to low settings). This mostly prevents the stutter in my experience. I assume you mean in the edit screen preview.
This preview is ok for most times when you're wanting to check that your music matches, syncs, that your titles work, the particles are good etc.
When it is not ok, of course, is when you're trying to determine quality of your piece. Try setting it one higher, then another higher, etc, until you can preview pretty high without it stuttering. Of course, you may be able to look at it in HD for a few seconds to determine that it's pretty good. Then it's best you drop down again, otherwise, things begin to play up.
It's one problem that is fairly widely known. And IMHO a problem which Cyberlink should REALLY fix. Pretty dumb having a preview screen where you can't preview the quality that you've shot in. However, you get used to it.
oh...one more tip. Before rendering, I've always had to make sure the quality of preview is still down in the med/low range. It doesn't make it render badly, but I've had some hiccups and best to keep it in the med/low for best render.
Hope I've helped.
This forum is so fantastic, the guys are great, and always help me.
I'm thinking they're all a bit busy right now with their new patch, and PD13 is so new too...there's lots to learn. It's doing my head in!!
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Wow Nina, that's a complex workflow, and all credit to you for being so organised!!
I thought I was picky, having all my bits and pieces in separate folders.
I've never noticed "produce range", what is that?? I just went in to have a look and can't see it...If it's button that just produces within the same project, then that would sort part of the situation, in that the pieces for the project are all in the library for export eventually. (a bit like when you produce a slideshow within PD)
My main issue with prerendering is still the export, I want it all in one folder, in one place, at one time. It's the way I catalogue my home movies,...so there's no chance the chronology and video names can get mixed up. I thought that my system of producing 30m at a time was being fussy....especially since the system is designed to do hours, not just minutes.
Exporting aside, I still can't believe this is 'normal' for PD13. Really???? I knew it was normal for PD9 when I had it back c 2005? Then when I got PD11 a couple of years ago, I fought with it for a while until I upgraded my pc. Fair enough. But really?? Still? and worse I'd say.
There's no point adding mag wheels/turbo engine/lowered suspension and extractors to a Toyota that will only go 80kmph, The additions will never work the way they're supposed to.
.....there's no point adding bells and whistles to software that won't work effortlessly on even GOOD computer systems. They'll never work the way they're supposed to.
I hope Cyberlink are listening. Fix this Enhance/Fix stuff. Pllleeaaaasssse.
I still hope someone has a solution.
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1Nina - thankyou for your comments, we agree then.
I have a love / hate relationship with PD13. I finally got my PD11 to work perfectly (because I got a massive upgrade in hardware), and now?? ppppttththh!
Yes, I fear background software, even time of day, can affect the CL program.
Sadly for me I bought the PD13 ESPECIALLY for the Photodirector, the round trip editing, the effects and enhancements, and the new speed. Unfortunately also for me, none of these new improvements seem to work either properly or well.
I can't imagine millions of regular people having THAT much of a better PC than me, since my upgrade, and that being the case, why would an ordinary person with only a 'fairly good - good' setup by this software?
I have also tinkered with pre-rendering pieces of my 30 minute home movies. First, I downsized my chunks to 30 minutes, as that seemed sensible. Second, any time I put in photos, I prerender them as slideshows. However, I stopped short of actually pre-rendering bits of the actual movie/music/titles etc,....as I am a bit finicky about exporting the packed project. I feel like I MUST protect the project in it's entirety incase I want to do something with it later. So If I prerender, won't that prevent the 'pieces' of the rendered bits (eg title templates, particles etc) being transported in the export? (because they're part of a previous render project?)
So....My problems still remain.
1. If I use Fix/Enhance - then try to view my change at anything more than 'normal' resolution (which is pretty hopeless)
a) the audio splits from the video
b) the video slows and slows...until
c) the video freezes with the audio still going and
d) the cursor jumps to the last clip and stops (with the audio still going and a the last played bit of video frozen on the monitor)
2. If I have a clip highlighted, I'm in Fix Enhance screen, I move the cursor line backwards or forwards on the same clip, the Fix/enhance screen disappears and the last used gallery, from the left side - either title, media, fx...or whatever, comes up in it's place. Very weird.
3. Frozen and crashed multiple times during above processes.
4. My presets don't show up in PD when I round trip edit into color director unless I turn off the program then on again.
Jenny
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Thankyou Papido France,
I understand. Your video and audio are splitting too, when you are playing clips with colour regulation.
I have also experienced this in PD11, and always look at my sequence in Normal or High. Never HD.
However, in PD13, the problem is MUCH worse. Audio splitting from video at every Enhanced clip, video freezing completely and cursor jumping many minutes forward to the very end and stopping, while audio continues. Very annoying, frustrating. Can't edit anything. I can't imagine it is my equipment, as it's pretty damn good.!!
(Plus, it has to be said, if I can't use it on my customised PC, I can't imagine very many 'ordinary' people are going to be able to do this on their PCs. If you need a tank to drive the program, what's the point?)
Anyone?
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Sonic Fields.
Thanks for your reply, however this is not the problem.
I habitually look at my viewer in High mode (the one above normal), have done since PD11. However, this problem is not just 'jittery' playback as experienced when putting the viewer into a higher mode, but complete breakdown of the viewing sequence, ie: the audio and video timing seem to split, where the audio keeps playing the video begins to freeze and ultimately the video (with audio still playing) jumps to the end of the last clip and stops. Typically the viewer is still showing a frame from somewhere around where it WAS playing, but the cursor is on the end of the last clip.
I have tested it at lower viewing resolutions,s uch as the normal you suggested, no difference, still occurred. Along with all the other anomalies.
however, adding to your comment that the editing suite cannot cope with the viewing resolutions....I wonder why cyberlink bother to put the higher res viewers in at all...since they have been pathetic since PD11, and seem pointless, if you can't monitor your sequence in HD, which presumably the clip has been shot in.
papido France: I'd be interested to hear your description of your problem, see if it's the same... what have you experienced?
I am at a loss to explain this behaviour or how to fix it. I can't edit anything, since the clips I am doing at the moment require Fix/Enhance color balance,
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Hi Tony,
yeah....I tried that switching default, preset technique, I also tried going right out of that screen into another then back in, but nup.
I also think that my PC is easily able to handle this program. It's got i7 and 16Gb of ram, and 600gb free memory. And a good graphics card. But it's the Fix/Enhance button (and including all it's bits like CD3) that is giving me tons of grief at the moment. see my other post: Fix/Enhance ...bla bla.
I think this is probably connected, though I didn't realise it until today, I have lots of problems, so far only when I'm on the fix/enhance page, or dealing with a clip that has fix/enhance/CD3.
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mmm. Interesting. Just also noticed it jumps to end of last clip every time I press Pause (usually because it's misbehaving), on clips that have Fix/Enhance/colordirector effect on them.
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Hi all, thanks Dafydd here's my post as a new topic.
I also one who is having dreadful trouble with my new PD13 (upgraded from PD11 which ran perfectly.) I have a brand new custom made (for Cyberlink) intel i7-3770 CPU, with 16GB Ram, andand AMD Radeon HD7800 series PC with TONS of memory in it. 1TB memory, with 600 Gb free. (I have no idea what most of that stuff does, but I DO know that it was custom built to take the cyberlink program.) It has Win 7 which I prefer.
I have Color Director 3 64 bit that came with the PD13 Ultimate suite.
It is the combination of ColorDirector/Fix/Enhance button adjustments that I THINK are causing my problems.
>I work in 30 minute blocks of clips, so it's nothing too huge. I am editing AVCHD home movie from a Pan TM900.
>All importing etc seems fine. My problem is with the playing/viewing window, and adding fix/ehancements, which include round trip to color editor occasionally.
>I view at the middle setting, High Resolution. Only occasionally looking at it from a higher res.
>I have only 20- 30 clips in my library at once. Coming directly from the folder on my desktop (not an EHD)
>The total time on line at moment is only ~19 mins.
1. Worst prob: when I play a clip to check my new enhancement (back from ColorDirector, or straight from Fix/enhance) it begins fine 3 secs., then slows, jitters, jumps, it seems to split the audio...which keeps playing at the normal speed and from the proper place, from the video..which freezes...but the red 'cursor' line keeps jumping waaaay ahead to the very end, the last clips, and stops there. The audio is still playing from 10 minutes up the timeline and the video has frozen at the very end - where it is not supposed to be and where the cursor now is. (See picture of this attached.) Window viewer shows scene that is NOT where the cursor is on the timeline, is frozen, and is still playing the correct audio.
I can't monitor any of my changes as it generally jumps before too long. 5 seconds usually, sometimes 10 but by then too distorted.
2. it has frozen and/or crashed during the above process multiple times.
3. I'm interested in presets, because my footage is often the wrong white balance. I have been using CD3 to 'round trip edit'. Making a preset that I could use for the next few clips in the timeline. However, in saving the clip, it does not appear in my created presets when Back to PD13. To make it appear, I have to turn off PD13, then turn on again. So it is saving, just not the way it should.
These problems do not seem to occur on clips that have not had some Fix/Enhance applied. I haven't gotten to the heavy duty stuff like Modify masks or titles, or any power tools yet!!
I've uninstalled, and reinstalled, and applied the last patch (not the beta) and have 13.0.2123.0.
PD11 worked perfectly.
PART A
13.0.2123.0
Part b
attached
Screenshot attached of workspace. the video in the viewer has frozen. the audio is still running from 10 minutes earlier (where it should be) and the red cursor line has jumped many minutes to stop at the end of the last clip.!
I'm beat! No point in going any further as I can't check any of my enhancements, or add any without this happening.
EXTRA: have just noticed another anomaly with Fix/enhance.
I have a clip highlighted, I'm in Fix Enhance screen, I move the cursor line backwards or forwards on the same clip (too see what it looks like or to find a position where I can monitor the adjustment) but the Fix/enhance screen disappears and the last used gallery, from the left side - either title, media, fx...or whatever, comes up in it's place.
This is definitely a Fix/enhance button problem,...definitely, probably, maybe....
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sorry, forgot to add screenshot.
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PART a
13.0.2123.0
Part b
attached
Screenshot attached of workspace. the video in the viewer has frozen. the audio is still running from 10 minutes earlier (where it should be) and the red cursor line has jumped many minutes to stop at the end of the last clip.!
As well as this, the playback of the video is deteriorating and the system has crashed on numerous occasions.
Lastly, the color director presets saved in CD, do not transfer to the PD13 workspace after saving. To find them I have to turn off, and start the program again, where they appear.
I'm beat!
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Hi all,
I also am having dreadful trouble with my new PD13 (upgraded from PD11 which ran perfectly.) I have a Win 7, intel i7-3770 CPU, with 16GB Ram, andand AMD Radeon HD7800 series (I have no idea what most of that stuff does, but I DO know that it was custom built to take the cyberlink program.)
Ive had problems ever since download a week ago. So slow to play my clips, adding Fix/Enhance and ColorDirector at the moment and it's unbearable.
I only work in 30 minute blocks of clips, so it's nothing too huge.
Worse, it seems to split the audio...which keeps playing at the normal speed, and the video..which freezes...but the red 'cursor' line keeps jumping waaaay ahead to the very end, the last clips, and stops there. The audio is still playing from 10 minutes previously and the video has frozen at the very end - where it is not supposed to be.
It's driving me mad. I can't monitor any of my changes.
On top of this, it has crashed during the above process multiple times.
I've uninstalled, and reinstalled, and applied the last patch (not the beta) and have 13.0.2123.0.
I wish I didn't buy this. PD11 at least worked!!! I'm feeling sad and frustrated, what a lot of money!
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Thanks for that, however, that seems a rather messy way of doing it. I'll end up with desktop presets all over the place.
Obviously its taking itself to PD, but not inserting itself on the open page immediately....not sure why.
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