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In addition to the previous post, I'd ask you to heed this request from that link;
Empty the contents of the C:\Windows\temp folder and C:\temp folder, if you have one. Then empty the Recycle Bin.
Get back to us with your results, please.
Already done. Are you hinting at a lack of space issue when suggesting clearing out TEMP folders, or a conflict with their contents? Look at the issue I've submitted to CL:
I have a movie that I'm trying to create with 'save as disc image', but it aborts at 98% completion with error e80D00002 (or eEB191789 if burning directly to blue ray). See 'PD13-1...' attachment.
The attached file 'pd13-2...' show that an ISO is created sized at around 20GB, which is about right given I did a Produce of it at close to that size.
When I mount that non functional ISO, attachment 'PD13-3... ' shows it has an allocation of 119GB, which exceeds the free space of 80GB on that drive, but all directories are empty.This is repeatable. I have Created several other movies of even greater size with no issue. All were created H.264, 1920x1080x60FPS.Also attached is...
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One could also use "Render Preview" by moving orange timeline markers around area of timeline playback difficulty and generating the Render Preview. Playback will be smooth for the given section then, speedup or stabilize features. Although this approach is work too so probably won't be of interest.
Jeff
Jeff,
Don't get me wrong, I do appreciate your suggestions, even if it requires more work. At the risk of repeating myself, the product should allow a user to make use of advertized functions as they are, not using work arounds.
In my opinion, there are 2 types of users:
1- the theoritecal one that will rebel when an malfunction of the product occurs and not move on until resolved.
2- the practical one that just forgets about the theoretical stuff and just moves on with the work arounds.
I'm a hybrid. With a new product or new release, I will explore and identify issues and try to get resolution. If not, then I quickly move on with the work arounds, because I need to get IT done.
I find these forums so supportive and that's great. On the other hand, many forums tend to mask product issues (by not acknowledging them).
PD is a steal from a price point of view (I didn't say that) given the powerful features it offers and I'm still discovering them after 5 years or so. One can do code review on a product guided by the most common path, that's the 20/80 approach. Or, as with some higher end products, one can go 100/100, but yes it's a drain on margins. When a user gets into more complex projects, he will fall in that last 20% of the 20/80 and it's frustrating.
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The FAQ refers to eEB191087; I had looked for both e80D00002 and eEB191789 without success.
Most EB errors that I've looked at refer to compatibility or damaged media, which I don't think is the case here since I'm writing to hard disk, SSD actually. eEB191087 did mention a lack of free space, but I have 106GB free on the drive I'm creating to and 13GB on my 'C'.
I sure welcome any other suggestions.
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Using PD13 Ultimate (2907.1). I had a 3hr movie burnt to BD at 1920x1280x24fps just fine. I decided to split it and produce on 2 BD's at 1920x1080x60fps.
The first half went fine. The second half triggered error e80D00002. So I did another Create, this time to hard disk ISO: that triggered error eEB191789. I'm now trying to Produce the same movie to m2ts with the same video attributes.
Questions:
1- Any experience with the above 2 error codes?
2- Is there a list of PD error codes, hopefully with more detail information to help diagnose (Google was no help) ?
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Chapter markers that stick with a timeline clip vs sticking to fixed timecode.
Jeff
Case in point. I created a movie with 16 chapters, deleted the first half of the movie, result: only 'timeline anchored' chapter markers that fit within the new elapsed movie time were retained, but are useless since they pertain to the chopped portion of the original movie; now need to delete & redo chapters.
Plus the fact that the warning message when chapters are cut off is misleading.
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I've encountered another issue where playback in Edit mode just quits.
I've added a stabilizer effect in a clip. When trying to play back in Edit, the video just freezes while the audio continues. I also tried to visualize in Create/Preview with the same results.
Jeff (JL_JL) suggested producing that clip and reinserting it into the timeline. I'm sure that will work and I'm greatful for the workaround, but, in theory, I don't feel I should have any extra work to do but to Edit playback. This is obviously a bug, so for the sake of CL let's focus on this as such.
Interestingly, while these freezes happen, I don't see any CPU peaks to explain the behavior.
I've seen Pinnacle (which I used for 10 years) announce dozens of new Studio features to spike sales, only to find very shoty implementation of these functions. So I've been using PD for the last 5 years. Where should I look now for stability?
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Ability to view a chapter thumbnail when previously set to a frame other than the beginning of the clip where the chapter applies.
Working with chapters in Edit mode, when a chapter thumbnail has previously been set to a frame other than the beginning of the clip where the chapter applies, it is impossible to view the actual chapter thumbnail unless going into Create and previewing the menu of the movie.
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In my case, PD13 will gladly eat up almost all of my 16GB and 100% cpu (i7-4770) on the some tasks (but not all).
It's true though that at idle with a 3hr movie and 550 clips, it only commits 1.4GB
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Suggestion: Indication of progress on long running tasks.
Using PD13 (2907.1), on a i7-4770 with 16 GB of memory and running Win7-64 all on SSD, on a 3hr movie with 550 clips, I regularly experience important delays (30-60 seconds) after invoking a function (from edit to capture to create, loading the project, etc.).
I also experience some glitches that force me to kill the process after contemplating the busy cursor for a minute or so.
If PD displayed a progress bar, as it does when loading a project, I would know visually to be patient and that things will complete.
And while we're at it, give the user the option to cancel the current long running task.
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I'm using the 'Monopoly travel' menu template. Even if I remove the background music loop.wav which shows up by default, the preview still plays the music. How then does one turn off the menu music, or is it part of the template and unremovable?
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Ability to "delete" all transitions on a given track in 1 command.
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Thanks all for the input.
Side comment
Finally figured that you need to point VLC to the directory that contains both the BDMV and CERTIFICATE subs, not only the BDMV.
No further ahead though: It may be my video, but VLC starts off ok but struggles with the buttons. As I said before, PowerDVD works fine, so you get what you pay for.
Main course
My ultimate goal is to be able to stream my movie from server to media client and be able to view it as if I inserted a BD in a physical player, thus having the ability to see a menu to navigate. I know this is a wide question, but how can I make this work?
I realize that the stream server logic must accomodate sending both the movie and the menu structure, then the client also needs to be able to manage movie + menu. Can this be done, and if so, what parts are needed?
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I suggest free VLC player may work, but I think the best is Cyberlink PowerDVD, I have version 15 and it's amazing software. I believe there is a trial version.
Hi Barry,
When I point VLC to the BDMV folder, it seems to scan the directories to assemble the movie profile, then plays the movie from the start. In the VLC menu, I can specify a particulat chapter, but VLC ends up on a different chapter than the one I wanted. Bottom line, it doesn't start by displaying the menu.
On the other hand, PowerDVD (15) manages it all very well. So, thanks for the heads up. I'm just surprised at the low number of players that can deal with BD/DVD menus from a folder. The other shocker is the (even discounted) price for PowerDVD-15: I would end up paying more for it than what I paid for PD13 Ultimate.
Bonus question - My ultimate goal is to be able to stream my movie from server to media client and be able to view it as if I inserted a BD in a physical player, thus having the ability to see a menu to navigate.
Have you, or anybody else, experimented with the possibilties in this arena?
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I 'created to folder' a movie with menus. I can see in the resulting work the typical directories for a BD. I'm looking for a PC based player that can play that movie and recognize the menu structure, essentially simulating the interaction of playing a real BD.
I thought it would be an easy google session to find out, but no.
Any suggestions?
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Behavior pretty normal. Your step (b) for me is confusing. Sounds like you are simply playing the timeline again after the "Produce" operation. If so, yes that will have no effect. If you load the "Produced" video clip in the timeline that "Produced" clip should play fine.
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That speedup behavior very difficult to playback smoothly in the editing timeline without "Producing". If I speed something up 100x, I essentially play frame 1, skip 100, play 1 frame, skip 100.... so on, very taxing. After "Producing" all these playback frames are now sequential so playback smooth.
Jeff
I may be off on this, but my thinking is that snapping a frame to produce out of every 100 should be less taxing than having to produce every single frame.
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After letting the Produce run during the nigh, what I found this morning was "PD13 has stopped working", apparently running out of memory on an otherwise idling system with 16GB of RAM... I must admit doing a successful Produce of the same project, without the 2 clips not accelerated.
So I've started testing with only 2 clips. Here are the results:
1- both clips accelerated at 3x
a) on Edit, movie displays correctly beginning to end
b) After Produce, movie shows (within PD13) about first half of first clip, then apparently freezes (no visual changes) with the progression cursor jumping to about 80% of the movie length, then after a few seconds of 'silence', movie resumes at some mid point in second clip
c) Playing the resulting .m2ts in Windows Media Player goes fine beginning to end
2- both clips accelerated at 6x
a) on Edit, movie shows (within PD13) about first half of first clip, then apparently freezes (no visual changes) with the progression cursor jumping to about 80% of the movie length, then after a few seconds of 'silence', movie resumes at some mid point in second clip
b) After Produce, movie shows (within PD13) about first half of first clip, then apparently freezes (no visual changes) with the progression cursor jumping to about 80% of the movie length, then after a few seconds of 'silence', movie resumes at some mid point in second clip
c) Playing the resulting .m2ts in Windows Media Player goes fine beginning to end
Observations
So it appears that the jerking/skipping issue is within PD13 (2907.1) when it deals with accelerated clips. Not a deal breaker, assuming the resulting movie will always play correctly, but annoying when you want to see the results in Edit mode.
I've submitted to CL.
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Hi Jeff,
I thought of producing as well to see the outcome, but it's a 3 hour affair, so hesitant. I guess I can let it run during the night and see. Will report back tomorrow.
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In the middle of a 550 clip project (3hrs), I have 2 consecutive clips that I wanted to accelerate. If I accelerate at 3x, all is fine (in edit mode).
Anything higher, for example 6x, the movie plays about 60% of the first accelerated clip (in edit mode) then things seem to freeze, then after a few seconds the movie skips right to the end.
I've tried saving and reopening the project, but the issue is constant. At 3x, again, all is fine. I didn't try many speeds and I'm not entirely sure what the precise parameters are for a fail, but it shouldn't matter: the thing should work at any accepted speed.
Anybody else experience problems with accelerated clips?
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You're disappointed in those render times? For 720p 60, All of those times have cut your render time and QS+HW is about 1/4 the original time.
I'm building a new PC with Intel 4770k. How did you set your BIOS and PD12 to get QS and HW at the same time? I'm building the PC strictly for HD video and want to optimize it. TIA
I mentioned disappointment initially. Now I'm good, after upgrading my system and not using HW acceleration with my Radeon 7850.
As for QS+HW, what I did was disable the Radeon, enable the built-in HD4600, flip HDMI's and reboot.
So the HD4600 is great with PD12, but for day to day stuff the Radeon is better. So I keep the Radeon active but don't use HW acceleration with PD12. If I ever get into a very large PD project, then it will be worth it to flip to the HD4600.
I haven't found a way to dynamically flip between the 7850 and the HD4600 without issues. If I had, I would have put an HDMI switch between my display and the 2 drivers.
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I have downloaded PD 12.0.2230.0 to see how this compares to PD 8 I installed many years ago. My test video was recorded
with my GOPRO 2 camera h.264 MP4 file. Total recording time 36 minutes. Then I would produce the video using h.264. AVC.
PD8 time 14 minutes. PD12 time 18 minutes. So are the newer versions slower ???. using the same settings in both versions ?
I suggest you go through this thread http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/30304.page
I was also disappointed with PD12 slow timings, initially. Along the way, I've learnt that HW encoding is not always a benefit.
My system:
Asus MB Z87-Plus
i7-4770
16GB DDR3 memory 1600Mhz
Sapphire ATI Radeon HD7850 PCI Express-16 3.0, 2GB
Win7 64 bit Enterprise
Here's a quick benchmark:
Produce PD12:
- Nature.wmv clip replicated so the movie totals 4mins 22secs
- AVC 1280x720/60p (24 Mbps)
- No DD 5.1, no x.v.Color, no SVRT
- No preview during production
Encoding:
HW (ATI HD7850) 02:12 109.52%
CPU 01:44 65.08%
Quick Sync (Intel) 01:07 6.35%
QS+HW (HD4600) 01:03
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... If you do 60P please list your player so that other forum members will know what works.
Eugene
Sony BDP-BX110/S1100 plays AVCHD (Ver.2.0) at 60p
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