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Barry,
That is really good! Congratulations and thanks.
Pax
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Hi Atreyu,
I am not sure just what it is you are doing. At any rate, you may want to explore the "video crop" feature of PD9 before you get to more complications with PIP.
There are several tutorials available to you, in addition to experts in PIP usage.
If you want to explore the zoom and crop functions, why not start with this clip? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Lsn369hlk8
It was made for PD8, but works on PD9 too.
Once you can make the clip do what you want, it should be easy to incorporate it into a video, whether you use PIP or simply have it in a separate track below your master track.
Pax
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Wave editor is active when there is a clip with audio in the timeline. It is activated by clicking the "edit audio" button.
Try it out by pulling the Nature.mpg clip into a timeline and look for the edit audio button.
Pax
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Hi Angus,
I neglected to suggest the fade from one adjacent still to another.
To do this, expand the timeline, so you can be sure of what you are doing.
Place only one fade transition so that it straddles the two still images. Adjust the fade duration to suit.
This will not disturb track 1 in any way and, I believe, will give you the quick and easy transition you are looking for.
Pax
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Hi Angus,
Please allow me to suggest an addition to these very elegant approaches. Hopefully, it will provide the simplicity you want.
1. Place your master video, including the audio, in track 1. Do nothing to it.
2. Place your stills in track 2, located wherever you like along the timeline.
3. Go to "Transitions" room and drag the "fade" transition twice, once to the beginning and once to the end of each still in track 2. That should provide the fade you said you want.
There will be no black. You can modify, zoom with magic motion, change duration, or edit the still images to do whatever you want. No need to bother track 1. If you do not stay full screen with the stills, you can manipulate the background to suit.
You may modify the duration of the fade if you wish. Expand the track so you can see what you are doing.
If you wish to retain and use those portions of the master video in track 1, which the stills cover, unlock it with a right click, split it where you wish, and move the entire remaining video to the right.
There are several ways to skin your cat, but, if I understand the issues you are dealing with, this may provide the ease you are looking for.
I hope so.
Pax
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By the way, I neglected to say that if you make the transition a prefix or postfix, rather than placing it in between adjoined clips, nothing will move.
Additionally, you can place transitions in both the end of one clip and another in the beginning of the next. For instance, if you place a fade transition at the end of the first clip and another fade at the beginning of the second, you will create a fade that goes to black from the first clip and then fades in to the second clip. Again, nothing will move on the timeline. You can edit the duration of both transitions to suit.
In short, you only have the problem you describe when the transition straddles two clips. It need not do so.
Hope this helps.
Pax
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Hi Berto2002,
There are lots of other things you can do with transitions too. I addition to making them overlap and cross, you can make them prefix and postfix, set favorites, change their duration, combine pre and postfix transitions, etc.
Click on the question mark in the upper right hand corner of PD9, choose index, go to transitions and read all about it. You will be a better editor if you do.
Regards,
Pax
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Tut, tut, my good man. I am not upset at all. Thanks for your contribution to the helpful toots available to us on the web and in DirectorsZone.
Pax
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Tut, tut, Cranston.
If I mixed apples with oranges, it was only because I trusted that you were addressing the subject of the thread, "Closing a gap in a track", which you now state you were not doing.
Besides, anyone can see by going back to my actual post that your purported quote of my post deletes important matter which changes its meaning into something you can argue with. Tut. Tut.
If you honestly misinterpreted what I said, please read my post again. In no way did I say that what you said was inaccurate, only that my computer didn't act the way yours did.
Nevertheless, it appears that Jerry and I and 565 readers of this thread have learned that if an unwonted gap appears, which we cannot close and it is too late to use the undo option, we should check preferences to see if the "Add an effect and a title when using freeze frame" box is checked, unchecking that box may resolve the issue.
Pax
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Hi Jerry,
I am afraid this is devolving into a discussion of individual editing styles. Cranston's suggestion about a toggle to lock or unlock all tracks was a hot topic during the beta testing. I do not think I really understand the function, or the need for it. I have never locked or unlocked tracks during editing and have never been thwarted concerning the existence, or removing of, gaps. I suspect this is because I was never really comfortable with the master track and the issues it causes. When PD came out with PD9, I felt like I had found a home. Therefore, in light of the foregoing, you will understand that I do not follow, or understand your latest comment.
In my opinion, Cranston is an extraordinarily accomplished editor in using PD9. His application of PIP is unusually powerful, simply boggles my mind. Have you looked at his tutorials on this subject?
I originally began editing video lectures and have been slowly branching out from there. I have gradually sallied into the more creative aspects of editing and am even thinking of generating some cartoon type videos. Perhaps some day I'll begin to catch up with the two of you and begin to discern the programmatic needs you are both talking about. Then, I'll probably be asking you to spend some time on my newly found issues.
In the meantime, it has been a pleasure discussing the gap issue with you.
Regards,
Pax
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Place the new image directly under the one you want to overwrite. Use the blue lubber line to split the new image by aligning the line with old image and choosing the "split" command. This will precisely size the new image and you can move it into track with the old image and choose "overwrite".
Pax
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It seems to me that the gap must be created in all tracks whenever new outside matter is inserted into the workplace. This keeps the prior existing sync relationship of audio and video unchanged for everything that was in the workplace before the insertion, but the overall duration of the video would be increased by the duration of the insertion.
As for moving matter about which is already in the workplace, the duration of the overall video is already set and probably need not be changed. Indeed, it probably needs to be retained. Here, the emphasis is not on the sync in one track, but on the overall duration. When matter is moved around within the workplace, the insert command applies only to the track in which it is inserted. Considering all potential 100 tracks as one video with one duration, this makes sense to me. It retains the overall duration and integrity of the video, but allows independent internal editing on any one track.
IF internal matter is moved from one track to another, a gap is left where the matter had been. Again, this retains the overall duration of the video and encourages the use of additional tracks rather that insertion into a master track.
This presupposes employment of multiple tracks, which PD9must do.
hmmmm. Just speculating, but PD9 does seem to be doing it right, at least that's what I think.
Pax
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Hi Jerry,
I knew that what Cranston said,
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Just in case you’re unaware...
The Snapshot tool is the same thing as the right click Freeze Frame. The only difference, is that with the Snapshot tool, your chosen frame is placed directly in your library. As opposed to Freeze Frame, which goes one step further and also auto-inserts the frozen frame into the timeline.
was inaccurate, so far as my set up was concerned. So, I did some investigating.
I found that in preferences, edit, I had checked "Add an effect and a title when using freeze frame". That checked box changes everything. With it unchecked, I find that I can change, or close, the audio gap generated when I use freeze frame. You might check to see if preference settings was the source of your original problem.
Pax
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I honestly do not understand how it would be an improvement to reduce the number of available tracks. The default number is two. We can increase them to a maximum of 100, as needed. If not needed, we can simply leave them unactivated. It does not burden the computer to activate all 100. If my screen is filled with 20 tracks and I require seeing all active tracks at the same time. No one forces me to activate more.
I raise this query seriously, because it seems to me to be an advantage to have available more tracks than I will need, regardless what project I may begin in the future. If there is a legitimate reason for us to suggest that PD limit our current capabilities, I would certainly like to understand it.
If there is no legitimate reason, then, Adrian's sage observations notwithstanding, the request itself merely dilutes any serious thrust from the other requests. hmmmmmm.
Pax
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Hi,
Although he may have done so, I am not sure James 1 addressed your question. If you simply want to generate a new file of the same matter, go to "file" and select "save as". If you want to replace an image of a dog for an image of a cat in the timeline, James 1 nailed it.
Pax
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Hi Jerry,
Thank you for keeping your temper in dealing with my earlier posts. I was very hesitant to make the second one because I knew it would look like I was trying to instruct you, which I am not qualified to do. I went ahead because I sincerely wanted to assist you with what I hoped would contribute to your editing prowess. My entire professional career has been built on "bearding the lion", trying to make sure I was right, then going ahead. That is what I did. You have handled yourself admirably.
In response to your latest reply, my emphasis on leaving track 1 alone was prompted by your response to my first reply: "If the "right" way to do this is to unlink the audio and move it down to another track, why isn't there an easy way to do this with multiple clips?"
I was trying to illustrate that there is an easier way and that is to simply leave the audio alone, mute it in track 1, copy what you want to use and place what audio you want in a lower track. This keeps sync.
My comment about the freeze frame was addressing your response to Carl on page 1 of this thread. I interpreted what you said as meaning that you had placed new matter in track 1 as a freeze frame. You can easily do this by placing any new matter of your choice in an unused part of the workspace and editing it to your liking. You can then move the new freeze frame where you want it to appear in your video, but in a lower track. I do not know if that is more elegant than what you did, but I do know it won't generate any gaps in track 1. I tried it, with and without transitions, and it worked just fine.
I hope this assists you in some small way.
Bohn Phillips
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Hi jerrys,
One can never be sure with Barry, but I suspect that he is saying that you must screw your head on a little differently when you want to unleash the power of PD9. That is, you must abandon the master track concept and revert to a multiple track approach. The concept is that PD9 has no primary track, as did earlier versions.
For instance, you should not move anything from track 1.
If you wish to overlay new audio, which plays contemporaneously with track 1 audio, simply place the new audio in a lower track (2,3,4, etc.). If you do not want the audio in track 1 to be heard, simply mute it with a right click and choose "mute". If the muted portion is to be within a longer segment, make a clip in the segment by the "split" command.
If you want to insert a "freeze frame" image, do so in a lower track, leaving track 1 alone. The freeze frame can over lay or exclude the image in track 1; etc. No need to move or delete anything in track 1. Nothing gets out of sync.
If you experiment by editing exclusively in multiple tracks, leaving track 1 alone, I think you will come to agree with me that PD9 is an awesome program.
I hope you will recognize that I am just trying to constructively reinforce what you have seen as a different way of thinking about the issue which you were dealing with, nothing more. I do not purport to be an accomplished editor, like many contributors to this forum are.
Regards,
Pax
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hi jerrys,
I have looked at your tutorial, which undertakes to restate the problem you have experienced. If your tutorial actually restates the problem as you originally experienced it, then I suggest you have no problem at all, PD9 performed in the way it is supposed to. The gap which you see is not created at the time of insertion. It merely remains as the same gap which was there when you inserted the audio back into the timeline. The inserted clip will be to the left of the gap. Insertion does not remove the blank space (gap), the overwrite command does do so.
If you want to retain all of the original audio, it can be left down below, where you moved it, or it can be returned to the place from which you removed it. Either way, you will have all of the audio playing in the finished product. The freeze frame in the video can easily be adjusted to the appropriate length, so it will sync with the length of the audio.
Actually, you do not even need to mess with original track (track 1), if you simply place the freeze framed video in a lower track, to play precisely below where you wanted to insert it in track 1. This is easily done by use of the blue scrubber line. In that event, the freeze framed video will play to the exclusion of the video in track 1 and the audio will continue to play unaltered.
If you want to overwrite audio, merely placing the new audio in a lower track will not block the audio above it. Both tracks will play at the same time. In that case, you will have to delete the unwanted audio segment in track 1, but you need not insert the new audio in track 1. It will work just fine in any lower track.
Please do not be insulted by my plebeian explanation, I am just trying to be clear. I realize you are an experienced editer and I respect that. I am just trying to contribute to a resolution of the perceived problem. You can help me next time. The key to the whole thing, if I have stated a resolution of the problem, is in realizing that the gap is not new. It is simply the gap that was created when you modified only one part of track 1 and was merely moved, not removed, when you inserted new material.
I hope this does help some. If not, could you post a short clip of the actual footage which was the problem?
Thanks,
Pax
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Hi Jerrys,
This has been a very interesting thread. However, I cannot tell whether or not the issue has been resolved. After reviewing your attachment, and reading the entire thread, I understand that the gap is in the audio track and it is too late to do an undo. However, I did not see any mention of the possibility of using power tools to extend the existing audio to fill the gap or the use of voice over, if it was a speech problem. Of course, the nature of the audio may be such that neither of these would offer a solution, but I just thought I would inquire.
Regards,
Pax
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Hi Am,
I do not know whether or not my video card uses Optimus. I did not see it in my Dxdiag file and I do not have software by that name. As you can see, my laptop does use Nvidea.
Pax
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Hi AM,
I have been out of pocket for a few days and make this post to sort of follow up on my earlier post. I have a quad core desk top in addition to my laptop. There are a few editing chores that I continue to use my desk top for, but on the whole, I use my laptop. It out performs my desktop and the mobility simply makes the whole thing more enjoyable.
Having said that, it should also be said that the desk top will last longer, because it runs cooler; it is easier to replace or change components, or to upgrade and you will tend to have a larger monitor. However, the laptop has one additional plus. I can easily plug it into my LCD, 1080, 40" TV with an HDMI cable and view hd video from a file while making editing decisions or fine tuning a clip. My TV is in a different room than my desktop.
As has been said above, it all depends on what you are looking for and on the care with which you make your decisions. But again, if you want a laptop, you need not be concerned about its capability, so long as you get one with the appropriate capacity. If you do opt for a laptop, I would suggest you make sure it can take at least 8 GB of RAM. Most of them cannot. PD9 works very well with with a 64 bit configuration, so I wouldn't even consider anything other than Windows 7. My desktop is older. It has XP and it works well too.
Pax
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