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Not ProRes per say, more a PD anomaly with some ProRes encoded files. Other utilities handle same file fine as you too found out, even though you didn't like the conversion speed.
Jeff
Ok. I would defintely like to hear your opinion on this. If you had a high quality video in mxf, avi, or and you wanted to put it into power director or color director, what codec would you use aside from Pro Res that would preserve good quality? The avi container would have Grassvalley Canopus HQ codec. The MXF video codec is DV
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I've seen many issues that sound similar with what you describe, often with ProRes source (many ProRes variants so I hate to paint with this wide brush), usually highly variable frame rates and all I frames in the file appear to be common triggers. At times, it appears turning off hardware decoding in pref helps (not sure why as ProRes is not valid for hardware decoded for my GPU), you might give that a try.
Since you latter say
I’d use one of several very popular free video conversion tools and convert to a basic constant framerate, H.265 file of similar video specifics and see how that plays back. If you want and/or need to, edit this converted file in PD.
Jeff
Right. So i actually used tippard mxf converter software to convert it to h.265 since i posted this. however it was extremly slow.; It barely used my cpu and barely used my gpu even when i set it to gpu acceleration. It took 3 hours to convert this 2 hour clip. The final product was good but it was way too long for me.
I also have wondewrshare univideo converter for windows ..which i love because it converts videos fast. However when i have converted to h.265 before with it, the videos came out a little choppy. With power director i have had somewhat of a hit and miss experience. usually a miss.
I have grassvalley edius, however since i have a ryzen cpu i can't render into h.265. It only allows that with intel's igpu. Thats why i wanted to try h.265 in power director.
You believe it may be because of the prores codec? Forgive me i havernt learned the types of frames yet. I will though. Im a fast learner.
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I understand, so please do this instead: Make a 10-15 second clip of anything using the same settings on your camera, then run it through PD using the same settings you've used for this project.
Nobody cares what the subject is but it would really help to see the exact same kinds of clips you're having trouble with.
If each of those clips is smaller than 100MB, you can actually use the Attachments button below the forum's text box to upload it directly to the forum, otherwise use teh cloud folder method I described above.
Unforttunately the video was not recorded by me. I do know that someone did capture session with a macbook and recorded it live in pro res. If i had to make an educated guess i would say they did it using Final Cut pro
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It would probably help to see a sample source clip and the produced version of that same clip from PD.
You can upload the clips to folder on OneDrive or Google Drive and paste a publicly shareable link to it here. See this FAQ for more details.
Thats where the problem lies. My client would not want me posting their clip anywhere. It was a prores 422
The Source Code is According to vlc player
Stream 0
Codec: Apple ProRes (apcn)
Language : English
Type: Vidfeo
Video resolution: 1920x1080
BUffer Dimensions 1920x1088
Frame Rate 29.970030
Decoded format Planar 4:2:2: YUV 10 bit LE
Orientation: Top L;eft
Color Primaries: ITU-R BT.709 Range
Color Transfer function ITU-R BT.709
Color Space ITU-R BT.709 Range
Stream 1
Codec: DVD LPCM Audio (lpcm)
Language English
Type Audio
Sample rate 48000 Hz
Bits per sample 32
I wanted to turn these clips into h.265. I first tried powerdirector i selected h.265 and the 1920x1080 default. Renedered and about the first 30 min s played back fine, then the video froze and the audio continued.
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Sounds like you're having all kinds of different issues. There don't seem to be any Studio Drivers available for the GTX Titan X so you should go with the latest Game Ready driver (471.41)
The older version of MagicYUV is available for free if you don't want to pay anything to try out that workflow
olk done. also i just did what the poster above said. I didnt realize i had to enter amount, i never saw a widget like that.
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Before you dig too deep, consider what media player you're using. Especially if you're using Windows' default player.
Download the infiinitely better VLC Media Player, which should be much better at handling these less common codecs and resolutions.
If you're still getting buggy playback, then it's time to troubleshoot the encoding process.
Yes sir. Im using vlc
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Sounds like the high bit rates are probably the issue rather than high pixel sizes. Using shadow files or converting the clips to MagicYUV will make a noticeable difference in PD's editing response, but each requires some processinf time upfront before you can start on the editing.
It might seem counterintuitive to use an intermediate codec like MagicYUV with a much higher bitrate (as much as 1.5Gbps) when I just said that the bitrate on your existing clips may be why PD slows down, but the difference is that MagicYUV clips are not encoded and can be loaded/previewed/skipped/displayed instantly. The main downside is the much larger drive space needed but that probably won't be an issue with your system.
I put together an app back in 2015 with the help of other forum members to make the process of converting clips to MagicYUV as easy as possible, and here's a link to the original OneDrive folder with the installer app I made.
Some things to note: MagicYUV is now at version 2.3 and you'll probably want to get the latest version from here. The Standard version is all you'll need to work with PD.
There are also updates for VirtualDub2 that's needed to convert the clips with the custom project that's included with my app. You can update VDub2 from here.
Run my Magic+PD(x64) installer first to get the basic components on your system, then update the MagicYUV codec and VDub2 before you start converting. Let me know how it goes!
Also this website is not allowing me to download magic yuv standard version. i click on "i want this" and nothing happens
MagicYUV Lossless Video Codec 2.0 - Standard Edition (gumroad.com)
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Thanks for both attachments. To be honest I don't see anything out of the ordinary - although I realize the lagging seen on this video is less than what you experienced when you first posted.
It often takes PD a second or two to incorporate new items on the timeline or to make the requested cuts, so on one hand you'll be less frustrated if you don't expect instantaneous responses to every edit. Some will be, just not all of them.
On the other hand, you can speed up the process somewhat by turning off continuous thumbnails (assuming you don't need them).
I assume you're working with 4K clips, and if speedy editing response is the most important issue for you, then it's probably worth using shadow files at the start and doing something else while PD creates them. You'll know they're ready when all the little yellow icons on the Media Library clips have turned green.
You may also want to make sure you've got the project frame rate set to match the highest fps clip you're working with, so 60 fps if you're working with both 60p and 30p clips.
Finally, your nVidia Titan X driver is a few months out of date. Try installing the 471.11 Studio Driver and check the nVidia site in a few days when a brand new version will likely be released.
When i go on nvidia's website and check the driver for my graphics card geforce gtx titan x it says "no drivers found" The studio driver that you are refferring to, is that for another family of cards? And also it it safe for me to install that?
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Hello. I have noticed that when encoding from avi to h.265 for prores 422 to h.265 i am experiencing problems in power director.
The final outcome will be that the video will be choppy, or eventually ythe video will freeze and the audio will continue to play. I experience choppiness when i use hardware acceleration. Nvenc with my titan x gpu (maxwell). If i cpu render then i get the result when the video plays back fine then freezes after a while.
Does anyone else have these problems? What is your experience like with h.265?
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Thanks for both attachments. To be honest I don't see anything out of the ordinary - although I realize the lagging seen on this video is less than what you experienced when you first posted.
It often takes PD a second or two to incorporate new items on the timeline or to make the requested cuts, so on one hand you'll be less frustrated if you don't expect instantaneous responses to every edit. Some will be, just not all of them.
On the other hand, you can speed up the process somewhat by turning off continuous thumbnails (assuming you don't need them).
I assume you're working with 4K clips, and if speedy editing response is the most important issue for you, then it's probably worth using shadow files at the start and doing something else while PD creates them. You'll know they're ready when all the little yellow icons on the Media Library clips have turned green.
You may also want to make sure you've got the project frame rate set to match the highest fps clip you're working with, so 60 fps if you're working with both 60p and 30p clips.
Finally, your nVidia Titan X driver is a few months out of date. Try installing the 471.11 Studio Driver and check the nVidia site in a few days when a brand new version will likely be released.
To be honest i havent edited anything in 4k yet in all my years of editing i have dealt with 1080p or lower, however; from proffesional cameras. Files with high datarates in MXF or AVI format. I started using powerdirector for the past year. I love how user friendly it is, i thought if i got a more powerful system it would take it further than what my other system (core i5 8400) did. Even though this is prosumer software i can get a lot of proffessional work done with it, and people are shocked wheni tell them that i did work in powerdirector.
BY the way i checked out your youtube page. How do you get that magic YUV codec to work? Also how do you convert your videos to that format? Do you think i would get the instantaneous response if i started working with that? I know when i tried prores proxy i got lag.
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There are many reasons why PD might run slower than expected even on powerful systems like yours and mine. See this FAQ for more details. It would also help to see the DxDiag results as described at the end of the Read Me Before Posting guide.
Beyond that, having a screen recording showing how long things take to load and what your timeline content is might also help us see where the slowdown(s) might be coming from. You can directly upload a recording here up to 100MB in size by attaching it like the DxDiag results, otherwise upload it to YouTube and paste a link here.
Ok. Here they are.
This video (video b) is not as bad as another video that i was doing before (video A). I chose to use this one (B) because Power director made shadow files and the other video (A) is playing back fine now. In this sample, when i continue to edit (im playing around with this edit) it isn't an instant cut or playback. There is a lag. This is a download from youtube mp4 at 720p. The other video (A) was at 1080p. There was a slower delay even from the first cut.
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Hello.
I have powedirector 365 for windows. I downloaded all of the effects, transitions, and templates that we are allowed to download and install. i have noticed that after doing so power director lags tremendously. This is when initially loading up aas well as in the timeline. I can barely work without the timeline freezxing for a portion before i edit and i have a VERY powerful editing system.
Ryzen 3950x
Titan X GPU
multiple SSD's
64gb ram
Does anyone else have this issue and is there any way to solve this?
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