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"A bug in PD17" - I'll believe that any day without hesitation! :
Well, thank you so much, I'll try that!
It still seems strange to me that 16:9 vs. 4:3 makes that much of a difference in file size? Also, adding chapters also produced the problem... Without them it was OK, as soon as I added them the file size jumped up. Buggy, indeed...
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After seeing your screenshots, I duplicated the same thing and it appears to be a bug in PD17. However, once I set everything properly, closed PD, Open PD, the error did not repeat, and everything is fine.
Your 1st screenshot show 3.3 hours of 4:3 aspect ratio footage at 352 x 576 25fps. Your 2nd screenshot show that your project aspect ratio changed from 4:3 to 16:9. This is wrong and the reason for your troubles.
You need to make the following changes in the Create Disc screen settings with the drop down arrows for what you want to work.
- Change from Widescreen(16:9) to Regular Display(4:3).
- Change from HQ 720 x 576/50i (9.5 Mbps) to SP 352 x 576/50i (4.9 Mbps)
- Change from LPCM to Dolby Digital.
You should be able to create the disc properly.
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I transferred a 4 hour VHS onto a DVD-RAM where it has (as a VRO file) 4.2 GB.
When copied to hard disc, loaded into PD and trimmed to a little over 3h the Create Disc module says the file size would suddenly be 14690 MB (!!!) and therefore of course wouldn't fit onto a 8,4 GB DL DVD, even with Smart Fit.
BUT: When I click File Properties in Edit Mode it say 3,96 GB!!!
Does anybody have an explanation and a solution?
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Of course you do an important (and great) job here and I really don't want to step on anybody's toes here. No offence meant and apologies if you think I behaved improperly.
All I'm saying is that I'm a cyberlink customer and user and have been one since PD 8 and my seemingly eternal lament is that this software, with only some things done better or differently, could be so much better.
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Hi Alex,
Looking at your original post and comparing the reports of the OP on this thread, at first glance it is difficult to see the similarity, other than they both involve the Creat Disc module.
AlanT says "....then clicked on Create Disc and PD17 crashes and shuts down leaving me back at the Windows 10 screen......" and "....Since it was only 2 weeks ago that I did a film on BluRay in PD15 I decided to try and do this one in PD15 as well and it also crashed when I clicked on Create Disc."
You say "Apart from being terribly slow overall, as soon as I want to load a new background image for my DVD menu PD 17 (as was already the case with PD 15) just crashes."
Your attached screencap also indicates you can open and work in the Create Disc module, but it only when you carry out some actions that PDR behaves abnormally.
It may help if I outline what we try to do as Mods here.
If one or more members report something that looks and feels the same, we ask them to contact CS and report the issue. CS works best for single item issues - the way the system is set up makes multi-item issues difficult to track, manage effectively and respond to. If members have more than one issue they should raise a ticket for each one. None of us here on the forum are directly involved with that, so no-one can influence or alter the system that CL uses. We can ask for an update on specific CS Ticket numbers where that is appropriate, hence we ask for them to be notified so that we can facilitate a resolution.
The same logic applies to topics raised by members. The forum tends to work best when topics relate to the same issues, otherwise there is a natural tendency for topics to become wide ranging and difficult to follow for contributors and, at a later date, those seeking answers in the future.
So, we encourage any issue to be reported, but it works best when reporting is structured and as factual as possible, when topics are (broadly) single item, and when the information posted allows members to understand and get to grips with a problem. Overly long and rambling topics become difficult to moderate, analyse and follow.
Your original post was a good example and helpful enough to illustrate your issue, allow some constructive contributions to be made and a suggested 1st step solution to be tried. So that worked very well.
Your contribution to this topic is not in that vein and so was flagged as such. It isn't really a major problem, but we do try to make sure things work smoothly for all members.
PowerDirector Moderator
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Why is mine a different issue? It's more or less the same - IMHO.
And reg. the GPU issue: I reverted back to the driver you mentioned but only after I pushed the CPU priority to HIGH it was running at all. It now gives me a screen that gets a little smaller for a second and then jumps back to its original size whenever I change anything in the Create Menu screen (add background picture, new text, save as template etc.)!.
What could cause that, I ask.
Interestingly enough, I installed trial versions of almost every other video editor out there (Corel, Pinnacle etc.) just to see - they all ran smoothly as butter!!!
The only thing that keeps with me with PD (for now) is the interface, really, and perhaps the fact that I've grown accustomed to using it over the years, from way back when versions like 8, 9 or 10 just did what they were supposed to do.
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Hello Alan
Thank you the extra information and submitting a support ticket. We have based it on to the CS team.
Hello Alex,
Your issue is not the same as what Alan reported, so please keep the discussion of your issue in the thread you created. As one user mentioned, it most likely is related to your GPU driver, which is out of date. The result may be the same, but the steps to experience the issue are quite different.
Cheers
PowerDirector Moderator
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Somehow I can't find it anymore. Didn't it use to be in the lower left corner of the "preview" window?
I have a background music piece which is 1.30 min but the menu repeats after 15 sec or so. Where can I adjust that, please?
UPDATE: I guess I have to tick "root menu", is that it? (But I don't want one.)
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Wow, thank you so much. I will try that and keep you posted as soon as I have any results.
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Thanks for posting the video clip and the DxDiag file. The main thing I saw is that your nVidia driver is a year out of date, so please update to v411.70.
DO NOT install the latest driver (416.xx) because you will lose hardware GPU acceleration in PD. This is due to significant driver interface changes for the Win10 Oct 2018 update (which you haven't yet installed, BTW), and while Cyberlink is currently working on the issue, v411.70 is your best friend.
The new driver should certainly help speed up some tasks and possibly get rid of some of the crashes, but in general, I find the whole disk/menu module pretty dreadful to use, and it hasn't ever operated like I'd hoped - even with a fast machine.
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Here' s a little screen capture I just made about how the Create Disc module behaves....
Again, can anybody help me...?
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Here you are (see attached txt file).
Any ideas, please...?
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Count me in. The Create Disc module is an absolutely unusable mess, has been since PD 15 at least. Everything happens in super choppy slo-mo (as if I ran it on a 20 year old 66 MHz PC or something) and constantly crashes whenever I try to alter a background image or a template.
Why, dear developer team, don't you skip adding some thousands of totally unnecessary transition effects for a change and write a decent DVD creation tool?
After all I pay money for your product in case you forget...
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Apart from being terribly slow overall, as soon as I want to load a new background image for my DVD menu PD 17 (as was already the case with PD 15) just crashes.
This is so annoying and embarrassing I can't tell you. I have an i7 PC with 16 gigs of RAM, SSD and a GTX 1060 graphics card - which should be more than enough for PD 17, right?
I tried pushing up the task manager's "priority" for PD to above normal or high but to no avail.
Any ideas, please...?
(Does anybody know a good software for creating DVDs?)
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How do I achieve a typical old, scratchy look for a film? Is there an overlay or something like that?
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That's my question! :
Don't tell me it's not possible....
Thanks in advance!
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Problem: I have several small clips in the timeline but need only a small portion of each (which somebody else has preselected for his project), but I can't get PD to display the length of every clip starting at 00.00, it just gives me the total length.
e.g. clip 1 is 1 min and clip 2 30 sec., so when I click into the middle of clip 2 the time shows "1.15 min" instead of "15 seconds", which is what I need.
Who can help here, please? Thanks in advance!
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I did as you showed in your picture. Here's the result: (and no, I deleted all other tracks, there are no black stills below or anything, and I even unchecked all remaining tracks)
In the video you can see: The title fade makes the video track go black immediately.
O well....
I made two videos: "checked and unchecked" is according to your suggestion.
Video "test3" is to show that I guess the best way is to slightly adjust the title position to achieve a more or less simultaneous fade of both.
I managed to download the clip. Why do you need a transition on the title when it fades away naturally?
Blame Cyberlink for their stupid and illogical "track superiority behavior" programming. I adressed that several times in the "suggestions for new versions" threads already. The track below always dominates the track above it.
Tell me what you think! :
Alex
This forum is becoming unusable!
I managed to download the clips. Why do you need a transition on the title when it fades away naturally.
One last question before I jump out of the window.
You have named the item in track 1 snapshot. Is it in fact a still picture?
YES.
I also see that you have applied something to it, hence the (i) that shows. What is applied?
MAGIC MOTION (Zoom in)
And lastly, Is it possible that you have already applied a fade out in PIP designer or something like that?
NO.
Hmm... what can we do? As far as I can see it all of you did a wonderful job trying to help me and keeping up the interest for so long. I guess PD is just what it is, an overall nice and affordable software -- which should be far more tweakable and customizable. But alas.....
In the end there are (almost) always workarounds and that's it, I guess. If you have another idea or suggestion please share it here. If not, thank you all for this nice and informative conversation on this currently "challenged" message board. Gentlemen, it was a pleasure talking to you.
Alex
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6 minutes and 43 seconds waiting and I can now reply. An afterschool Y7 IT club could probably sort the forum out! Anyway...
Why don't you have the title in the title timeline?
Try just a video clip in the video timeline and the title in the title timeline.
p.s. - the way that layers are implemented is IMO perfectly logical. Think of a stack of photographs. Put one on the table and now put another one on top of it - can you see the first one? Cut a hole in the middle of the second one you put down - now you can see part of the first one and so on...
The forum software is seriously messed up somehow at the moment. I can't post anything (hope this comes through).
Let's continue this some other time (hopefully tomorrow), sadly I got things to do right now.
Thank you so much for your time and patience. Read you soon!
Alex
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I did as you showed in your picture. Here's the result: (and no, I deleted all other tracks, there are no black stills below or anything, and I even unchecked all remaining tracks)
In the video you can see: The title fade makes the video track go black immediately.
O well....
I made two videos: "checked and unchecked" is according to your suggestion.
Video "test3" is to show that I guess the best way is to slightly adjust the title position to achieve a more or less simultaneous fade of both.
Blame Cyberlink for their stupid and illogical "track superiority behavior" programming. I adressed that several times in the "suggestions for new versions" threads already. The track below always dominates the track above it.
Tell me what you think! :
Alex
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I did as you showed in your picture. Here's the result: (and no, I deleted all other tracks, there are no black stills below or anything, and I even unchecked all remaining tracks)
In the video you can see: The title fade makes the video track go black immediately.
O well....
I made two videos: "checked and unchecked" is according to your suggestion.
Video "test3" is to show that I guess the best way is to slightly adjust the title position to achieve a more or less simultaneous fade of both.
Blame Cyberlink for their stupid and illogical "track superiority behavior" programming. I adressed that several times in the "suggestions for new versions" threads already. The track below always dominates the track above it.
Tell me what you think! :
Alex
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I'm finding it difficult to interpret exactly what you've done there. Try this - put a clip on your video timeline. Now put the title you are using on the title timeline (marked with a T). Set the fade out for your clip. Now drag the title along the timeline so that it ends just before the video clip.
If you've got snapping enabled it will initially snap to the end of the video clip but you can drag it to the left.
ANSWER TO BOTH:
I tried a video clip with a fade out and below that my title with an "ending effect" fade. If I shift the title a little to the left I get more or less a simultaneous fade for both clip and title.
The thing is: Why does the title start to fade out more towards the very end and not as linear as the clip fade "transition" effect?! If they did things would be much easier.
Also the title fade apparently only applies to the text part, not the graphics! Can you fade the "circle" part around the text too?
And still my main question: Why does the video go black when I put a fade out over a title?
You were so helpful so far and f if you lose interest I can understand that. If you have another solution let me know.
Have you tried it yourself?!!!! If so what are your results?
I attached two clips:
One where I first have both tracks aligned (notice how the circle fades later that the rest!) and after that with a slight shift of the title to the left. As you can see it's better but why do I have to fizzle around milliseconds when I should be able to just put a friggin fade over the whole title effect? Sorry, you are not Cyberlink but as I said, try it yourself if you haven't already!)
The other with my workaround of no fades at all and after producing putting a fade out over the rendered clip and producing it again. The result: a steady fade for both.
I still like PD.... most of the time.....
Thanks again in advance!
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Are you using a pre-defined title or building your own? I'm certain that, in your case it is the "Ending Effect" that you need to look at. Once you have applied that effect and added the title to your timeline, you can double click on it and then adjust the timing of the effect by dragging the start of the effect to alter the timing of it.
It's called "In Action 1" and it's a graphic and text in the lower left corner. The problem is that I can't match the two different fades to exactly fade out at the same moment because the title fade curve seems to be different from the one of the clip fade effect, somehow not linear, more like faster towards the end of the fade if you know what I mean.
Thanks again and maybe we'll solve that one but now I have to go to bed, sorry for not answering any more tonight. CU (hopefully)!
Good morning, Alex
My guess is you have the transition set to fade to black.
Try this: Expand the timeline so that you can see the split very clearly. Drag the fade transition down and hover it over the split. Dont let it sit to the right or the left of the split, but when it is looking central let it go. To all intents and purposes it will now look like it is sitting on the left, but it isn't. If you now play the clip you should get a true fade that will match the fade out of the title.
I hope this was your problem and that this has helped you.
Robert
Thank you so much but sadly, no effect. I recorded it so you may see for yourself. Both fades are placed between the clips and the black still as you said.
a) No matter what I do it always stays the same: As soon as I place a fade over the title the video track above goes black immediately!
b) If I select an "ending effect" fade for the title instead (in the Title Designer) it's the same.
c) The same effect also if I don't place black stills after the clips and just put fades at the end of clip and title.
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Are you using a pre-defined title or building your own? I'm certain that, in your case it is the "Ending Effect" that you need to look at. Once you have applied that effect and added the title to your timeline, you can double click on it and then adjust the timing of the effect by dragging the start of the effect to alter the timing of it.
It's called "In Action 1" and it's a graphic and text in the lower left corner. The problem is that I can't match the two different fades to exactly fade out at the same moment because the title fade curve seems to be different from the one of the clip fade effect, somehow not linear, more like faster towards the end of the fade if you know what I mean.
Thanks again and maybe we'll solve that one but now I have to go to bed, sorry for not answering any more tonight. CU (hopefully)!
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If you double click your title it will take you to the Title Designer and in there you can define various properties the end effect i.e. fade in this case.
Thank you very much for your reply but that has no effect. Whether I define an "ending effect" for the title or "no effect" the result is still the same... ;-((
And even if I apply an ending "fade" effect to the title it's always a little off-sync to the video track fade out, no matter how I adjust the slider.
A workaround is of course to produce the whole video, apply a fade out to the finished video and produce it again. But that can't be it, right...? Any other ideas, perhaps...?
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