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I understand that an overclock can be an issue, I've tested here with a standard bios setting running my 920 at stock (2.66Ghz) and also at 4Ghz with water cooling - there is no difference in results at all, I can't make any impact on reliability either way.....
HOWEVER - I'm currently testing the whole C-Drive thing - Cyberlink must be insane if they limit users to creating massive Blu Ray folders on their system drives, especially in the light of SSD, which is best run as read only with as little writing to, as possible, enabling TRIM with Windows 7 helps, but writing and reading these massive files seriously impinges on an SSD's useful lifetime and performance over time.
I can't understand why software developers think you want to keep libaries of effects, source media etc etc, on your system drive - nuts.
Anyhow, using the C drive here, still produces junk files, freezes and failure when using the AVC encoder, but I have more success with mp4 - but still unreliable.
Paul
I couldn't agree more...I have 2 ssds but I dare not use them because of what you have just written. It's very silly not to allow the user to decide where they want their files stored. I am thinking seriously about buying a hybrid just for this purpose, any thoughts on that?
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Whilst some people have no problems making 3D discs, some do, including me. It really doesn't help anyone to hear how simple it all is, when they are unable to achieve a result.
I have had some problems, but never any freezes or crashes that I couldn't find an answer too. I can crash this system any time I want to while using PD10. And that is to over clock the CPU...and it's the only program that will crash in that situation. So I don't over clock any more.
And I hasten to add, that up until now I have not been doing anything fancy with the 3D, I am simply inserting a video and turning it into a 3D-BD. Now that I feel confident, I am starting to add titles and menus, but first I need to understand how to make the ones I want, which I am doing right now. I have not put in any transitions or any other item in the video chain,, perhaps when I start adding complexity, it may be different.
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Has anyone found out how to change 3D title objects to dynamically change depth ? They can swirl and fade etc already.
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Hi!
@kingsmeadow. Have you tried to add a 3d menu from the template and then burning it??? Because I just edited a new 3d project about an hour long and chose a 3d menu from the templates that came with the program and it stopped at 22% again while authoring. Then I took the same project and selected No menu and it went thru successfully, played on my 3d tv, awesome quality!!! So, in really thinking my whole problem is all these menus!!! I could be wrong, but that what it seems like!!
I just added a 3D menu which I downloaded from DZ, it was the first one on the 3D list. Inserted it in your 3D clip and it rendered and played perfectly ! Which 3D menu did you choose ? I will try the same one.
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It's been awhile since I ran a test, but I seem to recall having to "force" my TV into side-by-side mode. The manufacturer (Panasonic) had previously told me that a lot of 3D footage doesn't have the format information necessary for automatic detection. That's certainly true for everything I've gotten from my cable company.
It might be that PD10 doesn't put that information in burnt disks either, or only does so with certain formats.
Just a thought...
You are correct in your thoughts. 3DTVs can only auto detect 3D if it's MVC encoded. If it's any other format, side by side or over and under, then the user needs to tell the TV what format and then the TV will fuse the two images together, otherwise the two images are displayed either side by side or over and under. PD10 produces MVC encoding when one selects 3D BluRay, 3D-BD. This is MVC encoded 3D and the TV will automatically detect and play.
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HI!
Thank you, Jim! I tried to choose side by side right from the beginning and burned it on BD disk, but when i play it on TV its still side by side, the whole screen is divided in two, which is not what i want. So when i go to 3D tab, and choose the best quality, on the format choice it gives me side by side and 3D BD formats only(and the 3D BD format is what i want). And i do use BD disk for project tries, but it is RW, so i'm not wasting a BD disk every time i'm trying to burn a project! So, i'm still confused!
I downloaded your video clip, and inserted it in PD10. It was detected as a 3D video,( it also told me it was NTSC and my system is PAL) so no selection of the type of 3D was required. I then went straight to Create 3D disc and burned it to a BD-RE, as a 3D-BD. It burned perfectly and I then put it in my Sony 3DTV and it played..nearly perfectly and I suspect it was because it had been converted from NTSC to PAL, but it was in full screen 3D, not side by side.
So the question is,,,why do you need to select the 3D format when it should be automatically detected, and maybe this is upsetting it.
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Hi, Paul!
I've been struggling with trying to burn a 3D BD also (can never pass a 22% mark while authoring) and i read the whole conversation here, but haven't really understood if you figured out weather PD is capable of creating a full 3D BD disk with any problems or not????
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It definitely is possible, as I have created many 3D BluRay discs, both 25 and 50 Gbytes versions with absolutely no problems, and they play perfectly on my Sony 3DTV. it isn't even difficult, I simply insert the video to be written to disc, select BluRay and press the button, and then wait patiently....and .. voilà..it's done.... 
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So, a little progress:
SO, despite the advertising around PD10 that it can handle many formats, which it can, it does not like anything MVC which it has not coded itself, it is happy with MVC from specific cameras as well.
I tried an experiment, and downloaded a test video from NetBlender. This video is MVC encoded 3D and plays perfectly in PowerDVD. I inserted it in PD10 and it didn't want to accept it as a 3D video. The Multiview option was greyed out and Autodetect did nothing. So I think Paul you are correct in that PD10 is particular about 3D video. I am trying to find a tool which would give me details about the encoding of the clip, if anyone knows of such a tool I would be most grateful.
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So, a little progress:
Paul
Glad to hear you have made progress, this may help some others who have had difficulty...The only 3D video I have imported is from my Fuji and I had no problems at all.
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Running PD 10 Win7 x32 - I also have the same issue with an ATI Radeon 2400 PRO card which has the latest driver but the field is still showing greyed out - any ideas on what else I can do?
You have done this ???
Notes:
1. Accelerated video encoding on AMD graphics cards requires the user to install the AMD Media Codec Package, also known as the Avivo™ Package. This package is available as an optional download when obtaining an AMD Catalyst™ Display Driver for AMD desktop graphics and notebook graphics products, available at www.amd.com.
2. CyberLink PowerDirector 10 also supports AMD Fusion E-series & C-series Accelerated Processors Technology.
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I'm shooting with a Sony TD10 - I prefer if possible to edit with GV Edius and output either uncompressed avi or Canopus HQ - but as I'm unable to obtain any reliable results I've tested mp4 and avcd files, bought into the 3D burner as external files, no menu, nothing at all, just encode to disk - but the results whilst looking OK, often have errors where the video frame freezes at a certain point, usually towards the end of the encode - I've tried very short clips, and some of 20 minutes - the longer ones freeze at about a minute from the end.
All the files I use are MVC dual stream 3D
PD10 says that it imports MVC, avi, mp4 etc etc, I know that the instant response here will be that I'm editing with a non Cyberlink product, and that PD10 probably has an issue with an uncompressed avi from another platform.
I've tested all my files with Cinevision and Scenarist, all are good.
I'd love to get this to work, it's simple and fast -
thanks
Paul
I'll upload a short avi and an avchd to test -
First thing I notice in your diag is that you only have
Drive: C:
Free Space: 17.7 GB
Here is a quote from Carl312 """"For powerdirector to create a Bluray disk, the C: drive needs to have 60 to 100 GB of free Space. .""""
I had a similar problem and Carl cleared this up for me by pointing this out.,,,and no other drive will work. At the moment it has to be C:
This could explain the problem.
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This is crazy,
I cannot find a single file type that renders out correctly to 3DBD, vision always freezes towards the end of the file after encoding, although the disc continues to play and produces sound.
What gives? is there a test 3D file from Cyberlink?
Paul 
Don't know of any Cyberlink test 3D, however here is one I tried and it worked for me, as do many others.
http://3dvision-blog.com/stereoscopic-3d-trailer-for-the-movie-alice-in-wonderland/
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I notice that there is a 3D BD production profile listed in the Disc production Summary in PD10.
It states that the BDMV-with menu profile is EP - Extended play, with a very low data rate of 15500K / 1536K (audio?)
This is seriously low for BluRay - how do I change this profile to allow better quality?
thanks
Paul
If you use MPEG-2 instead of H-264 you get 25000K, if that helps.
I take that back, you cannot use MPEG-2 with BD.... 
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Hi. How do I enable Nvidea CUDA in Power Director 10? Open CL doesnt work for me. Graeme
Try this Beta driver
Latest GeForce Beta Driver
Version: 295.51
I see you are using the latest released, should work, but then it may be worth a try.
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Thanks Kingsmeadow,
Initial driver 285:62 Oct 2011, updated to 290:53, Option NOW available, great!
( How many times have I read the update drivers advise on this forum .......... )
Thanks again. Patrick.
Great news, it's quite easy to forget the basics sometimes, I do it all the time, 
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Hi,
Running PD 10, Win7 64Bit, Intel i7 950, 12Gb Ram, Nvidia 1GB Graphics.
Since changing from an ATI HD5870 to a Nvidia GTX 560 Graphics card I now find that
the choice for selecting "Enable Hardware Decoding" (in Preferences: Hardware Acceleration)
is greyed out.
Does this mean that Hardware Decoding is not available with the Nvidia Graphics Card?
or:
Is there some settings or maybe a Nvidia download available to make this option available?
regards Patrick.
check that you have the latest drivers for the Nvidia card
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Hi guys,
I use my graphics card as the default when I play videos and in Powerdirector 9 ultra. I have a GTX 590.
I'm not completely satisfied with the video quality. There seems to be a strange grain/ or gird type of affect on everything. Its very noticeable on peoples faces (but not bad at all, just noticeable).
I've toyed around with the settings but I'm not sure what is an ideal level with the Edge enhancements and Noise reduction.
Could you guys let me know if you use Nvidia as the default and what setting do you use?
My Edge enhancements setting is 68%
Noise reduction 90%
My PC specs:
Intel i7 2700
16GB ram
GTX 590
Thanks for any input
You might want to try the PD9 thread, this thread is for PD10 primarily, although there are many similarities, there could be subtle differences. As it happens many senior contributors in this thread have both PD9 and 10, as I do.
Your problem could be that you are using quite significant values, you may want to try to experiment with less or even none, to see what the difference might be. You might even see a preview if you select dual windows to see "before and after" before you produce. Let us know how you get on, as we are all interested in any and all queries.
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Thanks for that inf,,quite interesting actually.
...and you are correct in that I was only viewing one image. I have now managed to get it done and I can say that the 3D produced is very good, for what I want.
By the way, instead of wasting discs I invested in re-writeable, both 25 and 50 Gbytes and it has proved to be a good investment.
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Thanks Kingsmeadow. Pretty easy.
Interesting results. I would be interested to see if you guys are getting something similar.
When no programs are running my CPU is running about 2-5%. When I open PD10 and my movie, but it is not running, it jumps to a pretty consistent 50-55%. Once the movie is being previewed, but on pause, it is hovering around 75%. When the movie is running it runs between 75 and 100%. When it hits 100% it begins to skip and then freeze. This happens not only on transitions, but more often than not. There is always a spike as the next clip begins.
Something else that is interesting is that some clips require more CPU usage than others. A few clips can run at 75% while others spike and push the usage up to 85-90%. These are the problem clips, of course.
I tried pausing the movie here and there when the usage spiked to see if I could stop the freeze. Maybe the CPU could catch up. Nope. Didn't work.
I just did a test...
With just the operating system running my CPU says 2%
With PD10 open 2%
PD loaded with a 17Gbyte video,,not running yet 2%
Producing an MPEG4 with hardware video encoder and preview 35%
Producing an MPEG4 without hardware encoding and preview 99%
I think this could explain why some folk with a low spec GPU are having problems with PD10.
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Thanks Kingsmeadow. Pretty easy.
Interesting results. I would be interested to see if you guys are getting something similar.
When no programs are running my CPU is running about 2-5%. When I open PD10 and my movie, but it is not running, it jumps to a pretty consistent 50-55%. Once the movie is being previewed, but on pause, it is hovering around 75%. When the movie is running it runs between 75 and 100%. When it hits 100% it begins to skip and then freeze. This happens not only on transitions, but more often than not. There is always a spike as the next clip begins.
Something else that is interesting is that some clips require more CPU usage than others. A few clips can run at 75% while others spike and push the usage up to 85-90%. These are the problem clips, of course.
I tried pausing the movie here and there when the usage spiked to see if I could stop the freeze. Maybe the CPU could catch up. Nope. Didn't work.
I see you are running Vista,, I wonder if I read on this forum that Vista is sometimes a problem,,perhaps someone senior can confirm this.
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Thanks, folks, for giving us a hand on this. I spent some time last night trying some different things. None of them worked, but we might be able to cross them off the list of possible solutions.
1. I couldn't find where to change the preview quality so I changed the preview screen size to as small as I could and still see the movie thinking this might reduce the load on the machine. Same result. Like ricm I then tried to render with no preview (in Standard rather the High Quality as before) and got the same freezing as before.
2. Thinking it was a resource problem, I ran msconfig on the start line and turned off all non-microsoft background programs (included anti-virus) and rebooted. Same halting and freezing. I also made sure my temp folders were empty.
3. In a "hail mary" I moved my raw footage files to the same folder that I have PD thinking maybe there was a delay finding the video files.
4. Finally, I once again deleted the fade transitions and ran without them as well with others. It does seem to consistently freeze on the transitions.
Last night I was convinced that the 4 GB of memory that I have is not enough. But I see that Jayson has 8GB and has the same problems. I have never messed with the BIOS on this machine so I assume they are set to a standard setting.
My next idea is to monitor the CPU usage graph as I run the movie. Does anyone know how to do this in Windows 7?
Open Task Manager and click on Performance,,and at the bottom you will see Resource Monitor,, click to open, and you will several options including CPU. There are gadgets that will do the job but this will get you the same result.
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