I'm not sure upscaling 3 hour movies to 4K is a good measuring stick for how your computer performs.

For more typical workflows (editing HD, editing 4k) a decent i7 should be more than enough power. A benchmark rating of around 10000 is really kind of a sweet spot for a program like PowerDirector.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

I mean, I suppose a super-powerful PC is nice if you've got an extra couple of grand burning holes in your pocket. But if you're going to spend that much on hardware, you might as well buy a professional editor that's designed for heavy lifting.

Just my not-so-humble opinion, I guess. But I'm always wary of spending too much on cutting edge hardware just to editing AVCHD and GoPro footage. Remember that whatever you buy is going to be worth about half as much within a year. And I hate to watch anything lose value that fast.

Sorry for not answering your question, but those are my thoughts.

Quote I'm not sure upscaling 3 hour movies to 4K is a good measuring stick for how your computer performs.

For more typical workflows (editing HD, editing 4k) a decent i7 should be more than enough power. A benchmark rating of around 10000 is really kind of a sweet spot for a program like PowerDirector.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

I mean, I suppose a super-powerful PC is nice if you've got an extra couple of grand burning holes in your pocket. But if you're going to spend that much on hardware, you might as well buy a professional editor that's designed for heavy lifting.

Just my not-so-humble opinion, I guess. But I'm always wary of spending too much on cutting edge hardware just to editing AVCHD and GoPro footage. Remember that whatever you buy is going to be worth about half as much within a year. And I hate to watch anything lose value that fast.

Sorry for not answering your question, but those are my thoughts.

This is not what I need help with really, I need to turn around multiple videos (ideally one per 24 hours) over multiple days/weeks. With my specs this is simply not possible with my setup. I usually build a high spec machine every 6 to 8 years then it will last, my current pc being the exception due to emigration and work. So I'm quite happy to build a decent machine now to do what I need it to do, a machine that will last (as 4k will proabapr be the video standard for the next decade as well)

I really don't want to throw money at the wall to see if it sticks if the pc will end up being 15 to 25% faster than a machine at less than half the cost. Hence why I asked here. However if that performance can give me 100 to 300% faster speed then I consider it a price worth paying

Hi,

If you haven't seen them, these recent topics might have useful info on current experiences with both CPU and GPU :

https://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/76988.page
https://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/76758.page
https://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/76958.page#314933
https://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/0/76530.page

Cheers
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welocme to the forum.
here's FWIW(penny or two).

you'd be the judge. here's a test our forum members have done about three years ago.
GTX960 Performance Comparisons . don't forget to click and see the data.

one video card, PD14 and different cpus...

my recommendations have been get a FASTEST cpu you can afford without breaking the bank!
then fastest RAM, GPU and mobo. don't forget at least 500GB SSD, if you're going that route.
New PC for video editing; advice sought. .

PD prefers Intel cpus and nVidia if and when the HA is working.

yes, also a lot has been changed in three years but GTX960 test will give you the some picture on your path to pc upgrade.

i am upgrading from FX-8370E to Ryzen 7 2700X due to better use of RAM and have upgraded to GTX1060 6GB when
Eugen157 upgraded his to GTX1060. both GTX960 and GTX 1060 does H.265 HEVC in HA. but GTX960 does 8bit 4.2.0 and
GTX1060 does 10bit 4.2.2. just that current PD isn't utilizing that yet. hopefully PD17 does!

happy happy joy joy

PepsiMan
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Quote welocme to the forum.
here's FWIW(penny or two).

you'd be the judge. here's a test our forum members have done about three years ago.
GTX960 Performance Comparisons . don't forget to click and see the data.

one video card, PD14 and different cpus...

my recommendations have been get a FASTEST cpu you can afford without breaking the bank!
then fastest RAM, GPU and mobo. don't forget at least 500GB SSD, if you're going that route.
New PC for video editing; advice sought. .

PD prefers Intel cpus and nVidia if and when the HA is working.

yes, also a lot has been changed in three years but GTX960 test will give you the some picture on your path to pc upgrade.

i am upgrading from FX-8370E to Ryzen 7 2700X due to better use of RAM and have upgraded to GTX1060 6GB when
Eugen157 upgraded his to GTX1060. both GTX960 and GTX 1060 does H.265 HEVC in HA. but GTX960 does 8bit 4.2.0 and
GTX1060 does 10bit 4.2.2. just that current PD isn't utilizing that yet. hopefully PD17 does!

happy hapy joy joy

PepsiMan
'garbage in garbage out'

Great, that has made it much clearer. Thank you very much. Seems threadripper will be overkill so I'm going to wait for the 9900k and buy a 1080 ti to use the hardware encoding function. Found some decent prices of sub 600 euro now the 2080 is coming out.

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Great, that has made it much clearer. Thank you very much. Seems threadripper will be overkill so I'm going to wait for the 9900k and buy a 1080 ti to use the hardware encoding function. Found some decent prices of sub 600 euro now the 2080 is coming out.

People on here like to say intel is better, but for current mainstream ones, the amd 2700x is better for video editing than any mainstream intel one. And if you go above mainstream, you're paying a lot more.

The 9900k would be better, BUT it will cost a lot more and then you have to deal with intel's bad thermal paste or w/e.

Also, supposedly leaked benchmarks on the 9900k show that even when majorly overclocked to 5GHz, it's only approximately 16% faster than the 2700x.

I'm tempted myself, trust me, because I ahven't even opened my 2700x or x470 motherboard, but check this out... people are expecting the 9900k to cost close to $500 USD, and I bought BOTH the 2700x and a good x470 motherboard on a sale for $375. Plus the 2700x comes with a cooler. So if the 9900k doesn't come with a cooler, the USD cost would probably be mighhty close to $750 for the parts i paid $375 for, just to get 16% faster speeds "if" overclocked, which lessens the lifespan.

Again, I am tempted to sell these and get the 9900k muself, so I'm not some AMD fanboy talking it up, just giving both sides of it. If I do get the 9900k, I myself am going with overkill at twice the prcie I paid.

Also, one more thing to remember... when the 8700k came out, stores ripped people off by charging well above suggested retail price ($100+ above it) for several months, because they knew people would be willing to pay more for it, just like with a lot of nintendo consoles when they come out and various gpus.

(actually, the Nintendo consoles is usually a situation of scalpers charging crazy prices. It's very sad when legit companies price gouge, as was the case with the 8700, 8700k, and gpus).

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People on here like to say intel is better, but for current mainstream ones, the amd 2700x is better for video editing than any mainstream intel one. And if you go above mainstream, you're paying a lot more.

The 9900k would be better, BUT it will cost a lot more and then you have to deal with intel's bad thermal paste or w/e.

Also, supposedly leaked benchmarks on the 9900k show that even when majorly overclocked to 5GHz, it's only approximately 16% faster than the 2700x.

I'm tempted myself, trust me, because I ahven't even opened my 2700x or x470 motherboard, but check this out... people are expecting the 9900k to cost close to $500 USD, and I bought BOTH the 2700x and a good x470 motherboard on a sale for $375. Plus the 2700x comes with a cooler. So if the 9900k doesn't come with a cooler, the USD cost would probably be mighhty close to $750 for the parts i paid $375 for, just to get 16% faster speeds "if" overclocked, which lessens the lifespan.

Again, I am tempted to sell these and get the 9900k muself, so I'm not some AMD fanboy talking it up, just giving both sides of it. If I do get the 9900k, I myself am going with overkill at twice the prcie I paid.

Also, one more thing to remember... when the 8700k came out, stores ripped people off by charging well above suggested retail price ($100+ above it) for several months, because they knew people would be willing to pay more for it, just like with a lot of nintendo consoles when they come out and various gpus.

(actually, the Nintendo consoles is usually a situation of scalpers charging crazy prices. It's very sad when legit companies price gouge, as was the case with the 8700, 8700k, and gpus).

I know this will not be accurate at all but is there any chance you could give me examples of a project export? Like roughly how long it takes you to encode something. Just so I can have some kind of rough guide, know its not at all scientific. That would be a massive help. I´m more than happy to go with Ryzen. Thanks