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New PC for video editing; advice sought.
Larkascending [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Mar 21, 2017 04:19 Messages: 9 Offline
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Dear forum members,


Powerdirector version used: 14.0.1931.0
SR no: VDE150629-01
Running on Windows 10 Home edition.


I need to purchase a new desktop PC, but seriously need some of your kind advice!

It will be used to run Powerdirector (as above) and aside from that just to watch iplayer, browse the web etc.
The video editing capability is my priority, and I’m assuming the PC will then be easily capable of the other, but please correct me wherever I’m wrong here.
More (hopefully relevant) details follow about where I’m at with this (sorry this is not very brief!):

I’m thinking of going with a self-build, (perhaps from Novatech, owing to good all-round customer reviews from Which?)
Going the self-build route seems to make sense, but throws up so many questions - I’m not a ‘techie’ person in general so I’ve been doing a lot of learning, which it’s obvious could go on forever.
Perhaps I’m worrying too much about details beyond my understanding, but though I feel I’ve read a lot I still don’t feel qualified to make the necessary decisions. It’s hard to know which bits not to worry about, if there are any!
I’d like to spend about £500 max on the PC itself (ideally less), since I need also to buy a monitor, keyboard and OS. My budget really couldn’t stretch much above this. My attempts at the self-build so far are coming out at a higher price. Perhaps for my needs I could get by with a much more basic desktop?

Importantly, I want to ensure my desktop PC will, at the least, outperform my laptop for the editing, which is an HP Notebook, I’ve attached a screenshot showing the specs for this.
The laptop cost £370-ish when new two years ago, and of course being a laptop that includes monitor, keyboard and OS in the price, which a self-build desktop doesn’t. I have made some videos on this laptop. It just about copes with what I’m doing come the finished project, but will crash if I don’t perform each operation slowly, allowing it time to catch up.
My videos are probably not very complicated in terms of what Powerdirector is capable of. (I’m making films of how to paint watercolours!)

I’m given to believe that if I spend as much on a desktop as a laptop then in general it should be at least as good or better in terms of performance/processing ability. But this must be a generalisation, and I guess I can’t assume it to be true regarding video editing needs.
It seems my laptop is actually pretty good (for a laptop, and at that price) for the job, as indeed to shop assistant told me at the time.

In terms of a self-build, I’m tempted to want:
An SSD, say of 240GB
An HDD of just one TB, and store mainly on a couple of external H Drives as backups anyway. In fact I’m tempted to save money here and not even have an HDD, just the SSD. Bad idea?
The processor - I’ve read a lot about them but still feel unqualified to make a decision from the ones available if I go with a self-build.
An Intel core i3, or perhaps i5. Good idea or not?? Perhaps I don’t need such a good one as an i5 for my needs. Or even the i3!
Then there are the AMD options….?
I am thinking I will not need Blu-ray capability.

One specific question regarding using Powerdirector 14 on the PC:
Do i need a processor that is made for ‘multi-threading’, or ‘single threading’ to use Powerdirector 14? My understanding of this term is not clear at all, but is it the case that individual software uses either one or the other ?

I need to keep the price down, but when googling for ‘Video editing PC’ (i.e. finding a shop-ready PC rather than self-building) the results are mainly way above my budget, presumably aiming at those doing projects more professional and complex than I am.
A lot are also in fact PCs built mainly for gaming, which I do none of. The latter have a high Graphics spec perhaps making up a lot of the cost, which I’ve read is not very important for video editing.



Any advice on anything here would be very much appreciated!
Please let me know if I need to provide more info of any type.

Thank you very much in advance.
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tomasc [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Joined: Aug 25, 2011 12:33 Messages: 6464 Offline
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See this post for building a new pc: http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/47937.page#post_box_250636 .
PepsiMan
Senior Contributor Location: Clarksville, TN Joined: Dec 29, 2010 01:20 Messages: 1054 Offline
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welcome back.

Quote ... I need to purchase a new desktop PC...


k.


no can do kemosabe.

if that person smokes then need to change the brand...

it is way way too slooooooooooooow.

SATA III vNAND SSD 250GB $100

SATA III vNAND SSD 500GB $180

SATA III 7200RPM 128MB cache 1TB HDD $90

wishing (zero cost) is better than having (money-mouthmoney-mouthmoney-mouth).

true statement.

may suggest not a desktop but a second hand laptop of this specs! (because of your low budget).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Latitude-E6530-i7-3740QM-2-70GHz-16GB-RAM-500GB-HDD-DVDRW-Nvidia-NVS-5200M-/152482918083?hash=item2380b0aec3:g:L28AAOSwjDZYmys8

do not pay more than $300.00... (update 4/4/17)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JT165-Dell-Precision-M4700-15-6-Laptop-3rd-Gen-i7-3840QM-2-8GHz-16GB-500GB/122418236568?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D40130%26meid%3D9d73145f68764cbf9de7cb2e150d2fc0%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D122431688252


that dell latitude e6530 will do Blu-ray with external writer.

' It is better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it '


u r welcome.

ref:

PC hardware recomendations for PD... http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/46219.page#239329



happy happy joy joy

PepsiMan

'garbage in garbage out'

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'no bridge too far'

Yashica Electro 8 LD-6 Super 8mm
Asrock TaiChi X470, AMD R7 2700X, W7P 64, MSI GTX1060 6GB, Corsair 16GB/RAM
Dell XPS L702X i7-2860QM, W7P / W10P 64, Intel HD3000/nVidia GT 550M 1GB, Micron 16GB/RAM
Samsung Galaxy Note3/NX1
Larkascending [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Mar 21, 2017 04:19 Messages: 9 Offline
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Thank you for your time and advice, PepsiMan.

I will look into all this asap.
Larkascending [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Mar 21, 2017 04:19 Messages: 9 Offline
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Thank you.

I will read through all this asap.
PepsiMan
Senior Contributor Location: Clarksville, TN Joined: Dec 29, 2010 01:20 Messages: 1054 Offline
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for your future references go to http://www.cpubenchmark.net/


# what is the best computer for video editing spec:

CPU - fastest, what you can afford without breaking the bank.

avoid intel cpus with single suffixes ix-xxxx U / M to name a few at all cost!

also avoid AMD APU like your current laptop.

if in doubt then check it out at cpubenchmark. your AMD APU is rated 2528.

this is my recommendations and will serve you very well for a long time.

CPU cpubenchmark score ≥8000 / 1920x1080 FHD, ≥10000 / 3840x2160 4K.

memory - ≥16GB RAM 2400MHz (update 10/9/1 (3200Mhz)

GPU - ≥2GB VRAM; speed check it out at cpubenchmark ≥5000. (update 4/4/17) (GTX 1050Ti 2GB)

Best NVMe M.2 SSD -> http://www.pcgamer.com/best-nvme-ssds/ 500GB

Best SATA III SSD -> http://www.pcgamer.com/the-best-ssd-for-gaming/ 500GB

HDD -> 7200RPM 128MB cache 6G SATA III 1TB or bigger


the dell latitude e6530 that i've recommended has cpu rated at 8349 and gpu rated at 638,

comes with 16GB RAM and requires the OS.

you can acquire a dell w7pro 64 bit restore disc at a nominal price at ebay.

i don't know about windows 10 disc.



my dell xps cpu is rated at 6101 and gpu rated at 724, and just upgraded to SATA III SSD 500GB drive

with that i do 4K comfortably than the WD Black HDD.


good luck in your quest.

oh happy happy joy joy

PepsiMan

'garbage in garbage out'

This message was edited 9 times. Last update was at Oct 09. 2018 13:21

'no bridge too far'

Yashica Electro 8 LD-6 Super 8mm
Asrock TaiChi X470, AMD R7 2700X, W7P 64, MSI GTX1060 6GB, Corsair 16GB/RAM
Dell XPS L702X i7-2860QM, W7P / W10P 64, Intel HD3000/nVidia GT 550M 1GB, Micron 16GB/RAM
Samsung Galaxy Note3/NX1
Larkascending [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Mar 21, 2017 04:19 Messages: 9 Offline
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PepsiMan,

I just wanted to say, thanks very much again for all this info.

Some things came up to fully occupy my time and I am now just beginning to trawl through a lot of reading around what you've advised, as well as going off on many tangents to provide additional learning and relevant insights to it all.
There is obviously a lot to it! I'm getting a lot better informed, but wow, there's a long way to go still.

Cheers for your help.
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Quote ... I need to purchase a new desktop PC...

... I’d like to spend about £500 max on the PC itself (ideally
less), since I need also to buy a monitor, keyboard and OS...

... It seems my laptop is actually pretty good (for a laptop, and at that
price) for the job, as indeed to shop assistant told me at the time...

...want:An SSD, say of 240GB An
HDD of just one TB, and store mainly on a couple of external H Drives
as backups anyway. In fact I’m tempted to save money here and not even
have an HDD, just the SSD....

...but when googling for ‘Video editing PC’ (i.e. finding a shop-ready PC rather
than self-building) the results are mainly way above my budget...

..I am thinking I will not need Blu-ray capability.One specific question regarding using Powerdirector 14 on the PC...

... Thank you very much in advance.

k.



no can do kemosabe.



if that person smokes then need to change the brand...

it is way way too slooooooooooooow.



SATA III vNAND SSD 250GB $100

SATA III vNAND SSD 500GB $180

SATA III 7200RPM 128MB cache 1TB HDD $90

wishing (zero cost) is better than having (money-mouthmoney-mouthmoney-mouth).



true statement.

may suggest not a desktop but a second hand laptop of this specs! (because of your low budget).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Latitude-E6530-i7-3740QM-2-70GHz-16GB-RAM-500GB-HDD-DVDRW-Nvidia-NVS-5200M-/152482918083?hash=item2380b0aec3:g:L28AAOSwjDZYmys8

do not pay more than $300.00... (update 4/4/17)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JT165-Dell-Precision-M4700-15-6-Laptop-3rd-Gen-i7-3840QM-2-8GHz-16GB-500GB/122418236568?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D40130%26meid%3D9d73145f68764cbf9de7cb2e150d2fc0%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D122431688252



that dell latitude e6530 will do Blu-ray with external writer.

' It is better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it '


u r welcome.

ref:

PC hardware recomendations for PD... http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/46219.page#239329



happy happy joy joy

PepsiMan

'garbage in garbage out'


Buddy SSD 240GB is not enough. Actually, i am an avid gamer and recently I build a pc for gaming and i used Samsung 850 EVO 1TB because read-write speed is stellar and it comes with a decent warranty but for more choices you can visit this source: https://www.reviewsed.com/

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GGRussell [Avatar]
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Quote
also avoid AMD APU like your current laptop.

if in doubt then check it out at cpubenchmark. your AMD APU is rated 2528.


CPU cpubenchmark score ≥8000 / 1920x1080 FHD, ≥10000 / 3840x2160 4K.


Recently helped my sister buy a new desktop on her BUDGET. HP Pavilion with Ryzen 5 2400G APU with Vega 11. I benchmarked it at 8180 but the Vega 11 was a bit disapointing. However PD15 did utlilize the CPU and GPU just fine.

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