Messages posted by IgorTFerreira

In December 2018 i got a 2700x + EVGA 1080Ti
What i can say: MUCH FASTER than 4790k+290x... I think it's 2 or 3 times faster, the powerdirector timeline is much smoother...
i really recommend that kind of upgrade...

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Its ok but the 8700k isn't like gold when it comes to rendering.. Although I strive for the best etc..

Thanks again for the reply...
I read that quicksynk from 8700k is better for rendering than Hardware Acceleration of 1070 in powerdirector... use it can get you extra speed for rendering...
(you just need to plug in a HDMI cable at the motherboard output and connect it to any monitor/tv input (and enable on windows desktop manager)... I can use quicksync + r290x and i get awesome rendering speeds... my only complain is with timeline lag on some projects...

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Yeah I would hold off on buying anything ryzen if your wishing to use Power Director.. It seems that they have a serious issue witht he code that wont actually let it use the cores.. I however do have an i7 8700k for a gaming computer so i just use the gaming computer to do my renders really quickly.. I am hoping that future graphics card updates actually make my GTX 1070 faster at rendering video footage.. Maybe we will see..

HI lorentedford
Thanks for the reply and the suggestion!
I7 8700k with quicksync enable should get VERY fast rendering time (for x264 format, and even HVEC - i think 8700k GPU suport it) on powerdirector...

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Yeah I would hold off on buying anything ryzen if your wishing to use Power Director.. It seems that they have a serious issue witht he code that wont actually let it use the cores.. I however do have an i7 8700k for a gaming computer so i just use the gaming computer to do my renders really quickly.. I am hoping that future graphics card updates actually make my GTX 1070 faster at rendering video footage.. Maybe we will see..

HI lorentedford
Thanks for the reply and the suggestion!
I7 8700k with quicksync enable should get VERY fast rendering time (for x264 format, and even HVEC - i think 8700k GPU suport it) on powerdirector...
On my particular system (i7 4790k, water cooled, 32gb ddr2 ram at 1800mhz and AMD R290x, during edition, the processor usage stays between 60 to 70%. Can you edit 4k footage without any throttle on the timeline with 8700k?

Quote The guys in the Magix forum recommend buying no more than a hex core processor, saying something like more cores won't be used with MEP.

Of course, that's apples to oranges. I know that PD uses all my cores when I don't use HA on my old AMD quad core.

And for the videos I do (which is nothing crazy), HA is faster than CPU. (GTX 960.) But then, it's an old processor with an old instruction set.

Some weeks ago i opened a thread questioning witch processor is the best for powerdirector (Ryzen 2700x / intel 8700k or ThreadRipper 1950x), no one answerd me! Most answers linked to games benchmarks... I think there aren't huge number of powerdirector/ryzen (or threadripper) users. I'm really worried about the present thread, because i'm considering to upgrade from a 4790k with quicksync enable + R290x to a Ryzen 2700x, but i'm not sure if i'll get enough performance increase! I can't find benchmarks or user experiences about new AMD processors (even "old" ryzen 1) and powerdirector...
that's bad...
Does anyone have any ideia if upgrade the R290x to a Nvidia 1060 or even 1080 will make difference (to timeline editing)?

I will keep my 4790k for some more time...

Thanks for reading!

Quote Your R9 290x video card is worth 2 of my R9 270 as I saw it here.
http://www.hwcompare.com/16550/radeon-r9-270-vs-radeon-r9-290x/
Want to improve timeline editing on PD16.
You upgraded video drivers, realized that you can not use HA for interlaced fullhd videos and the editing got heavy on the timeline.
Here I returned to the last drive that runs HA July 2017.
non-whql-win7-64bit-radeon-software-crimson-relive-17.7.1-july10
Enable Open CL improves editing primarily with effects on the timeline.
If there is something different, type uses the current drive with no problems please let me know, Thanks
As for the CPUs, its got 8 colors the other one has 12, PD16 uses all to render in this case will be 50% better.
But for application that uses 1 core your current CPU should be better clock is higher as I see here http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-8700K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4790K/ 3937vs2384

Thanks for your reply PlaySound!
I'm using mostly multi-thread programs (specialy PowerDirector).
I removed the lasted AMD driver and reinstall the old one you suggested, i think i got a better timeline editing with it! thanks a lot! but it isn't sufficient for multitrack projects, i still get a lot o suttering from GoPro 1080p videos. I'm really considering a 2700x or at TR1950x (maybe threadripper 2).
Thanks again!

Quote FWIW - I went 8700K as it can clock higher than the others. This can be important for apps that are single threaded. For me one of my applications is to do real time transocoding for streaming video to devices over DLNA, the the library that does this is single core for some transcoding tasks. The 8700K does this very well with the exception of 4k HEVC(H265) high Frame Rate (60p) material, even overlocked it just fails to be powerful enough to steam without pauses. Apart from that any upto date CPU and GPU should server you well for PD.

jmone
Thanks for sharing your experience !

Quote Since PowerDirector takes advantage of GPU, not sure how you can compare just CPU power alone without having two computers side by side and running a test with PowerDirector. Perhaps someone here with those CPUs can do that.

Hi GGRussell, i asked some people and most of them said that i woudn't get a real performance jump upgrating my graphics card on powerdirecto. My question is about editing performance of the processor, like adding multiple tracks, video effects, transitions and can preview them faster in the timeline to enhance the edition.

What i noted on my processor (4790k, very close to yours):
- If i encode using quicksync ON of the processor, i get great speed, about 2 or 3x faster than OpenGL from AMD R290 video card, but i don't get that much of performance increase in timeline editing (Quicksync ON makes things a little faster, but not by much), sometimes i get it suttering, specialy when i have heavy project on it... I think a powerfull processor can help on that specific area (editing, not encoding). i found several reviews where ThreadRipper beats Ryzen and Intel fasted processors on DaVinc Resolve and Adobe Premiere, but can't find a single one about powerdirector...

I talked with some other people and they said me that even a 1080Ti woudn't make too much difference in editing of powerdirector compared to my R290x...

What i'm saying: i belive processor upgrade should enhance the performance of powerdirector, my question is: witch one is the best: 8700k, threadripper 1950x or Ryzen 1700x or 2700x.

Would be great to read some comment from threadripper owners that use powerdirector...

I should keep the AMD R290x for a little longer.. i'm interesring in raw performance of the processor in timeline editing...

My question is about the best processor specificaly for powerdirector, that gives me more performance on timeline editing, with multiple tracks and effects - the encoding time isn't very important - i think intel on that area, with quicksync ON could be the winner.

- Witch one can handle the timeline better for 1080p h264/h265 sources, Threadripper 1950x / Ryzen 2700x or Intel 8700k (with quicksync enable)?

Thanks for the previous answers...

I have intel 4790k, 32gb of 1600mhz DDR3 + 512gb Samsung EVO 850 SSD
I have quick synk enable.
I'm using powerdirector 16 for daily video edition (usually 1080p files)

My timeline only works without droped frames if i reencode the videofiles with powerdirector (both x264 or x265 formats)
I'm considering to upgrade my machine to a Threadripper 1950x / Ryzen 2700x or 8700K, but i can't find any benchmarks or user experience about any of those chips.

Anyone have any experience (good or bad) with 1950x or 1st generation of Ryzen on PD16? Does anyone knows if they can do a better job than intel lasted chip with quick sync enable (can't find benchmarks of 8700k with quick sync working on 8700k)>

Thanks

Quote: Here's how I fixed the problem. Didn't turn off anti-virus or firewalls.

I ran regedit, looked under Cyberlink, PowerDirector 14, UserReg.

Product_Activate said OnlineCheck. I changed it to say LocalServer.

Everything worked!

I got PowerDirector 14 four days ago, was trying to activate it but it was getting the error msg:"cyberlink powerdirector was not activated because a connection to the activation server site:www.cyberlink.com". The reply of Edward solved my problem!
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SHARING THE SOLUTION! !