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Tomasc, what about the idea above, that since 75% of teh screen is static the compression makes file smaller than disc? I presume a 5 min video does not right the whole DVD also.
Looked at the mpeg-2 DVD HQ profile. It appears that cvbr (variable) instead of cbr (constant bit rate) is used. You have to create a custom profile with constant bit rate for what you want. There would be no advantage to it if the video is pretty much static as you say. You did say earlier that this is the first time for such small files created. That would explain it.
Most users would not see this issue as all my videos have constant motion and so do the images used in my motion slideshows. cvbr and cbr would produce about the same file size in this instance. cvbr would produce smaller files if there is little or no motion. Very few of us have tested that but it does make sense.
Your PD13 is already patched to build 3516 as shown in the screenshot. You could probably fit 2 hours on this particular dvd project but not if you use videos that have a lot of motion. Your timeline of 1 hr. 13 min. show no chapters. Adding a lot of chapters could increase the file useage another gig if used with a menu. Looks like that you are good to go!
Thanks, it ended up just being a matter of extra compressable video. I will remember it and hopefully this helps others.
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See this sticky: https://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/50109.page#post_box_263498 and post your DxDiag.txt file as an attachment. Please also click on the word PowerDirector on the top right of the edit screen and post a screenshot of that popup window. On your timeline hit the movie button and then hit the end key on the keyboard and post a screenshot showing the end of the movie. This will help in determining the possible cause.
Tomasc, what about the idea above, that since 75% of teh screen is static the compression makes file smaller than disc? I presume a 5 min video does not right the whole DVD also.
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See this sticky: https://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/50109.page#post_box_263498 and post your DxDiag.txt file as an attachment. Please also click on the word PowerDirector on the top right of the edit screen and post a screenshot of that popup window. On your timeline hit the movie button and then hit the end key on the keyboard and post a screenshot showing the end of the movie. This will help in determining the possible cause.
Thanks, here they are
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Just a thought (hope I've not missed something in the thread) are you writing an ISO to folder? Could it be that the drive is formatted FAT32 which has a 2GB file size limit?
Hi Longedge, Good thought. I have many 8 gig files on same PC.
Just thought of something. Created a 1080 WMV of same 74 min video and it is sharper. Normally would be 6-8 gigs as 10 mbps.
It is only 3.03 Gigs! 75% of video is me speaking in front of a stage backdrop. So compression will work superbly on this, maybe 70% of screen is static for 75% of the time.
So is it possible it wrote 2 Gigs because there was no way at 720x480 to use the full disc because of MP2 compression? Guessing same is true if it was 5 min video.
Not sure but nothing else makes sense.
Its off to replication already but if could solve it could tell then to wait for another disc.
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Even to hard drive PD13 insists on only producing 2 Gigs, image attached.
Is there any way I can get the full 4.7 gigs out? A work around?
It is good that you sent a full screenshot this time so we don’t have to fill in the blanks and guess the missing pieces. It is all very clear now. You have a second extended monitor. I have not had the problem you described in PD13. Problems like this are sometimes solved with the latest patch like build 3516.
There are two ways that I know of to get 4 GB + on your dvd. First way is already given earlier.
- At the top left of your screenshot change the DVD 4.7 GB to 8.5 GB. Change the SmartFit to HQ-Best Quality. Check the Create a Folder. Uncheck Save as a Disc Image. The created folder can probably be burned to a 4.7 GB blank DVD+RW using Power2Go, or any disc burning software or by using Windows itself.
- If The Created folder is slightly too large then you can Produce a mpeg-2 720 x 480/60i at 7.5 Mbps using a custom profile. You can then author (create chapters) and burn to disc with the hardware encoder unchecked as you already have done.
- 3 rd method is not necessary as producing the project at a lower bitrate and then creating that folder should do it.
The above methods do work and is verified by users in this forum in the past.
Hi Tomasc, I just did #1 and again it wrote 2 gigs
Something is forcing it to write 2 gigs only and this has never happened before. Screen attached. And should not have to tell it 8.5 gigs to get 4 gigs. I have produced it as 10mbps 1080 WMV and it did it, noticiably higher video quality, it is writing to DVD or equiv that triggers this 2 gig issue.
How can I patch it when it says there are no newer patches?
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... It worked and decent video quality. ...
either your DvD rw got old real quick, quicker than you, and or got a crappy dvd blanks... try a different brand... dvd rw is recognizing as 1hr mini-dvd discs. what about a firmware update???
go ahead and burn the whole project to a FOLDER option. then use ImgBurn to finish... here's the ImgBurn 2.5.8 - without OpenCandy! . for an enquring mind wants to know, opencandy is a malware!
widescreen dvds takes up more space so does choice of the audio codecs. in that case make sure to use the SMARTFIT option when burning to the folder or disc!
make sure to have AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS folders are present when burning with ImgBurn.
other thread you complained about titles getting chopped off. make sure you're working in 4x3 workspace and using 4x3 titles. 4x3 titles don't have any problems in 16x9 workspace just squeezed little bit... also activate TV safe zone so you don't over write off the screen resolution!
happy happy joy joy
PepsiMan
'garbage in garbage out'
Was goingto try this, but it writes 2 gigs even to hard drive.
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Even to hard drive PD13 insists on only producing 2 Gigs, image attached.
Is there any way I can get the full 4.7 gigs out? A work around?
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Well bought new disc (memorex this time) had no effect. Writing as 4.7g or 8.5 gig no effect.
PD13 is just set on writing this 74 minute video as only 2 of 4.7 gigs, Smart, HQ makes no difference. Frustrating and has never hapened before. At this point will ship the 2 gig disc to replication house.
At least it looks decent.
would trying in 3d make a difference?
Am creating disc image right now, if it is full size then may use another burner to burn DVD?
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Well bought new disc (memorex this time) had no effect. Writing as 4.7g or 8.5 gig no effect.
PD13 is just set on writing this 74 minute video as only 2 of 4.7 gigs, Smart, HQ makes no difference. Frustrating and has never hapened before. At this point will ship the 2 gig disc to replication house.
At least it looks decent.
would trying in 3d make a difference?
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Well bought new disc (memorex this time) had no effect. Writing as 4.7g or 8.5 gig no effect.
PD13 is just set on writing this 74 minute video as only 2 of 4.7 gigs, Smart, HQ makes no difference. Frustrating and has never hapened before. At this point will ship the 2 gig disc to replication house.
At least it looks decent.
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For some reason it does sound like your PD13 is not the latest patched version. Try this: Change the dvd type setting from 4.7 to 8.5 GB. Check Create a folder. More than likely the 74 minute video will fit a 4.7 GB disc and fill it to 4 GB instead of the 2 GB you have now.
Hmmm, will try that
Edit: Did it thought it worked and ... still just writing 2 Gigs, am going to store for new DVDs, maybe try patch first.
There are no patches "Click the available tabs to see the Updates, Upgrades, and enhancements (Installed Packs) available." nothing shows up in either folder.
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A full screenshot would have been more helpful. More than likely you may have used up computer resources to cause this. Try this: Save the project. Shut down the pc. After a minute power the pc back up. Open PD13 with the saved project. Check Create a folder. Check to see that the settings on the left of your screenshot did not change. That can happen depending on the patch version used. It will probably be okay this time unless you have a bad spot in your editing
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I did try that. After reboot with both smartfit and HQ. Smartfit used 2/3s of disc visually. On Dir it says 0 bytes free of 2.05 Gigs, and has 2 VTS files of 1 gig each inside. And the its the full 74 min video with good looking quality.
It does say UDF for drive, maybe a hint do not recall that. Well just checked and found a 2 month old DVD same batch with 4 gigs on it and not made by PD13 and it says UDF too, so maybe scracth that clue.
When produced HQ DVD it complained about 0.5% too few sectors to write, then I overrode warning, it worked and again visually wrote only 2/3s of disc and again had full movie on it.
I will buy some more discs, but do not think that is it. Have been using the same batch for last year with never a problem, now in 8 disc writes in a row every time it is only using 2 gigs of disc. The only solace, the quality looks decent on 50" set and is full 74 min video.
Any ideas?
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An update. I selected Max Quality then went back to SmartFit, on Max Quality it compained the disc was a few sectors shy of being big enough, then went to SmartFit as mentioned already and the warning went away.
So started burning, all seemed good, guessing problem over, then error at 90%, screen shot attached.
Think first time ever got that error, any thoughts?
Visually looking at disc, it seems it was written to same place (about 2/3s of diameter) as teh ones that were complete and seemed decent quality. I may haveto go to Windows DVD writer to write this disc. This last one willnot play at all.
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Tomasc, Thanks!! The link above says to play it in "Content", then stop video and set that farme as thumbnail start.
It worked poorly in terms it did not use the frame stopped on. But the frame it did pick and slomo video was much better than prior ones.
Thanks again. Would have never found it.
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On the issue of the "Cinemactic" DVD menu template I have put a seperate video on the front, but the section that follows with the template and music and scrolling video picks video randowmly and poorly. Is there anyway to tell the template what video from main movie to use?
There should be. Am desperate to put the parts of movie I want into motion menu. Even rolling the dice again would be worth a try, but can find no way to control the video the template selects.
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... AH, see it is set to Smart Fit, so should use full disc, correct?
Attaching screen shot of DVD write selections used.
k. what about TV safe zone??? and writing to a FOLDER option???
happy happy joy joy
PepsiMan
'garbage in garbage out'
I have not written to folder yet, have been working on movie. Have moved titles enough believe have solved that issue and will leave as is. What will be lost on outside edge is acceptable now.
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... It worked and decent video quality. ...
either your DvD rw got old real quick, quicker than you, and or got a crappy dvd blanks... try a different brand... dvd rw is recognizing as 1hr mini-dvd discs. what about a firmware update???
go ahead and burn the whole project to a FOLDER option. then use ImgBurn to finish... here's the ImgBurn 2.5.8 - without OpenCandy! . for an enquring mind wants to know, opencandy is a malware!
widescreen dvds takes up more space so does choice of the audio codecs. in that case make sure to use the SMARTFIT option when burning to the folder or disc!
make sure to have AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS folders are present when burning with ImgBurn.
other thread you complained about titles getting chopped off. make sure you're working in 4x3 workspace and using 4x3 titles. 4x3 titles don't have any problems in 16x9 workspace just squeezed little bit... also activate TV safe zone so you don't over write off the screen resolution!
happy happy joy joy
PepsiMan
'garbage in garbage out'
Thanks Pepsiman for answer!
It is set to smartfit have attached an extra screen shot of DVD write selections on the first post here in last few mins, see if that matches your idea on this. Was thinking about writing to HD too first, maybe do that.
On Titles in original movie am moving them inward a little manually, fortunately it was just a few, and like fact on my 16:9 50" TV its using the whole sceren, looks good and most people do have 16:9.
Hmm on your "dvd rw is recognizing as 1hr mini-dvd discs" The discs are LABELED HP DVD-R 16X 4.7g 120MINS, never had an issue and have burned 3 of them. Just used weeks ago for another movie in Windows DVD Writer and zero issues.
Could it be something else. Do not recall seeing UDF as a file type before. Is that a hint of issue?
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BTW it is set to Smart Fit, now recall that. So it should be sizing the DVD correctly to use all the disk? Image attached of screen shot.
EDIT: Whoops meant to post this on DVD partial use of disc thread, will copy it over there.
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Found another video and also on PD13 and by Cyber https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-do66vpFeA
Think am figuring out one issue. I can not alter teh text color and some other things. In video another template has "modify template" button they demo.
Cinemactic has "modify" grayed out. Any thought how I can change text color on menu? At top of screen it has font and size but no color.
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Hi, The Cinematic template auto pics a few snips from the 1 hour plus menu to display on root menu.
Two issues it only shows inner 2/3s of video so choping off text etc on the template and it is not the best video for menu.
Do see a "First Play Video" which to right has "Set first play video" icon. It defaults to the whole movie it seems. So Can I taken betetr clips edit them together and size them down so only inner 2/3s of screen, produce new video then have menu use that video instead of the movie? Hope so.
AND the whole full length movie created to sell as DVD, plays as DVD full screen on my 50" 16:9 TV 100% of screen sorta like that. But in two scenes ity is cuting off a little text on edges. Is there an easy way to reduce entire video by a couple of percent automactically to prevent edge loss on DVD write?
Thanks
If figure out DVD template thing above will post results but having never used it hope someone will post useful info here. One more thing can you control where PD13 starts and stops taking snips from for menu preview video, instead of rolling the dice and hoping it times it right?
Found this YouTube that does answer some of the questions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRYhQw-RJgk&t=297s
First Play is seperate from the autoseleted video shown later. And it is full screen. Fortunately in that YouTube he used the same template.
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