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Hi Guys,
I'm not sure that I'm in a position to advise anyone about what's what but I have edited and burned around 100 hours of movies on PD 8 & PD 9, since 2009, and produced 60 or 70 DVD's (and one Blu Ray), mostly from Hi 8 video tape family videos and like my exploration into the photo edit programme PhotoShop and the audio edit programme from Tracer Tech I do know what I know - and of course I am always finding out what I don't know.
I haven't experienced most of the problems I read about on the Forum, with stuttering and stalling and all the other events where Cyberlink actually fails. I wonder if much of that is to do with the amount of memory in the computer - since I have moved to a desktop with 6gb of RAM, everything is different.
A recent message from Berto refers to a problem with a dark background and high contrast on a DVD burn (which I have not experienced) and I would ask if the PRODUCE file he was attempting to burn was OK.
I am still of the opinion that if the PRODUCE file is OK and the Blu Ray Burn is OK, all the problems must be in the authoring/conversion/transcoding - or the burn - to DVD. And to remind you and myself I burned a perfect image on a DVD-DATA burn - by accdent.
I do believe I will solve it and I would be delighted to describe how.
Regards,
GR
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Hi Carl,
I haven't had the problem you refer to but then I haven't attempted what you were trying.
I did uncheck the CUDA button and the hardware acceleration button (separately) but that didn't to make any difference to the authoring or burning of a standard DVD from the HD original -AND that is the only real unsolvable problem I've had with PD9 - AND I still hope to actually solve THAT.
Regards
GR
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Thanks Pat,
The endeavours continue.
Incidentally the video I've been editing (The School Play) was shot on the 'new' Panasonic SD 900 in the 1920 x 1080 HA Mode because I wasn't sure how well Cyberlink could deal with 1080/50p. AND the play was scheduled for two or three days after we acquired the camcorder.
I have to say that PD9 dealt with everything I could throw at it in the edit, and indeed right through to the 'PRODUCE' files.
Regards,
GR
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After 5 weeks I'm still trying to burn a DVD with much the same quality as I see on my 'PRODUCE' files and my Blu Ray burn.
For some reason I have achieved it but 'IN ERROR' by burning DATA DVDs instead of DVD-VIDEOS, of course I can only play these on the Windows Media Player - No I can't believe it either but there it is.
But how do I make use of that error.
I've been trying 4 or 5 other burn programmes but they all come out with varying degrees of soft focus and/or combing on the final DVD.
Having used the Sony DVD Recorder previously I haven't had problems with DVD burning until I tried to 'AUTHOR' and BURN the Cyberlink PRODUCE files.
Since the PRODUCE files obtained from the Cyberlink Edit Programme are practically perfect I suspect that what PD9 call 'AUTHORING', Software B call 'CONVERTING' and Software C call 'TRANSCODING' are causing the final DVD-VIDEO problems, or could it be the final BURN ?
I am not at all technical, so I can't understand why PD9 provides the range of encoding and quality at the 'PRODUCE' stage but don't enable a DVD-VIDEO file that could be burned straight to DVD without a further conversion in the 'CREATE' stage.
My best version at the moment is converting the Cyberlink PRODUCE file on one piece of 3rd party software and burning on another.
I wake up in the early hours of the morning thinking about what next - and my next plan is to copy my Blu-Ray to DVD - don't even ask how ! I did try it out on a commercial Blu Ray with the Sony DVD/HDD Recorder with some success.
GR
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Hi Gang,
I will try all you said and report later, BUT to answer Cranston's point - I did download the The User Guide way back when I downloaded PD9 but, of course, it was all just words then. I have that copy out now and I'll try again.
However, I don't think I've come across The Intro to Creative Movie Making so I'll download the pdf - I have hundreds of pages of recycled paper from my son's business (one side clear) so it will come in useful.
Thanks again.
GR
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Hi Guys,
Thanks for pursuing this for me.
Again I see WHAT you say but can't see HOW.
I've edited my short Day 2 segment (as the PIP) and of course it's a PDS file, when I try to add it to the Day 2 video on the Timeline it asks if I want to add it but when I say YES it removes the Main Video and adds Day 1 to the Timeline, and vice versa.
I can's seem to (ever) find a way of adding PDS files to the library because I have tried to join two separate PDS files together, without success. AND Tony I don't know what you mean by SYNCING the two video tracks once they are both in the Timeline.
Just as an experiment I did add a still image onto Track 2 and when I played that back on Movie it played back the still but not the Day 2 Video. Although I have Particle effects and Titles that dovetail into the main video perfectly
You will appreciate that I'm now lost, because from your screen Tony I don't see how the Day 1 track can become a PIP -
shouldn't I be importing whatever I'm using as the PIP image into the PIP library ?????????????
H E L P !
Regards
Ron
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Hi Carl,
Have gone back in and still in a quandry. And I'm in one of those situations where I hear what is said about what to do, BUT don't actually understand the way to do it.
When you say the 'LIBRARY' I assume you mean the PIP Library - when I hit the icon 'IMPORT IMAGES' in the PIP media centre, it opens up the available files but it appears to want to only accept DZW Files.
You also say that the video file can be dragged into one of the 'TRACKS' - Problem - when I see the word 'TRACK' I think of AUDIO and I can't see how relevant that is.
My plan for the PIP was to insert a Video clip, but use the audio from the main Video images. Just to explain, the main video shot of a school play was shot on Day 2 and misses a key CU shot on Day 1,. so I planned to use the Day 1 shot as the PIP and sync it to the audio on DAY 2.
Is there a 'HOW TO' procedure you can guide me through ?? I would be very grateful - you might appreciate that I have spent much of the last 7 or 8 weeks ensuring that I get the best out of all the work the teachers and children have put into this school play.
Having purchased a BD Writer I am over the moon with the discs this produces with PD9, and a great deal of the time has been spent attempting to improve the quality of the 2 DVDs (combing artefacts) I am determined (in fact have to) to provide as an alternative to BluRay.
It also looks as though my trawl through Nero and AVS4You might improve on the PD9 and Power2Go Burns.
Carl - I must say that I am impressed with how many threads you are involved in - how on earth do you manage to get to do any editing - perhaps I could provide my grandchildren on loan to you for a couple of weeks - THAT WOULD REALLY BE AN EYE-OPENER !
Regards
GR
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Thanks Carl, I will try that.
GR
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I have burned a perfect BluRay disc of a (nearly) 2 hour school play but I'm having problems doing the same with DVD, from HD.
I think combing is the fault, and I've already decided that I have to use 2 DVD's to keep the compression as small as possible.
I tried Power2GO and inadvertently burned the discs in the DVD data Mode, BUT the quality was exactly what I wanted, but of course it plays on Windows Media Player but won't play on most DVD players or even Cyberlink Power DVD.
Question, what goes wrong when I burn to DVD-Video, OR what goes right when I burn to DVD-Data, AND is there a way of making use of the answer.
Getting desperate I downloaded a trial of Nero Burn, to find that it would not burn Video files directly and someone pointed me at the AVS4You Video conversion software trial. All within the space of an afternoon these downloads produce as near perfect a DVD as I would wish - and that after a month or more of trying every conceivable piece of encoding the Cyberlink software could muster, and trying the burn on every programme on the computer.
Looking through the DVD threads in the Forum the elements leading to the questionable quality of the final DVD is clear.
Have I found the answer, or even, an answer ? I'd love to hear from anyone who has found 'THE' answer.
If I have found it I would be pleased, very pleased to report.
GR
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With PD 10 on the horizon (at least I guess it is) I would like to request a review of the situation with fades, and I guess any transitions.
Maybe my recall is faulty but I'm pretty sure that the PD8 Transitions basically faded image 1 out and image 2 in AND, specifically, faded the audio out and in as well.
I have spent a long long time with PD9 manually fading the sound out and in on hundreds and hundreds of transitions. Maybe the two versions of the transition on PD9 are acceptable to more editors BUT I would personally like a return to the PD8 version, at least as a third alternative.
GR
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I have successfully used jpeg images in PiP and I think I recall reading about video clips being used but I can't see my way through that.
I would be grateful for any advice.
Dell 546, 2.6 processor, 6gb RAM, Windows 7 -64bit, GeForce 220 1gb, Plextor BD Writer
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Getting into Power2Go too quickly I'm pretty sure that I have created the first couple of discs as DVD DATA and not DVD Video.
I don't quite understand the differerence because isn't it all data anyway ?
What it does show is that it is possible to get HD data (MPEG4) onto a disc with some quality, certainly without any, or very little, 'combing' - it even shows in the scrolling titles.
It plays perfectly well on the Windows Media Player, but not on Power DVD 10 and for some reason this full 56 minute version doesn't play on the DVD Player whereas snippets I burned earlier do play.
I found the Power2Go screen for DVD Video and once I saw that the screen was virtually the same as the 'CREATE' screen on PD9
I realised that I was back where I started.
I have to find the way to get the quality of image on DVD that I have just achieved - BUT HOW ?
However, I won't give up !
Thanks
GR
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Burning DVDs from video files on PD9 has consistently produced discs with what I take to be 'combing' - where the edge of the image is marked with a sort of serrated set of small black lines.
I've burned Blu Ray discs with PD9 and they are fantastic, BUT I have to create a set of DVDs for parents who want copies of the School Play.
I thought I had solved it when I tried Power2Go Version 6 - when I burned an mp4 file at both Best and High Quality to produce a disc without combing. However it would only play on the Windows Media Player, Trying Power DVD 10 I was informed that 'THERE IS A DISC WITH AN UNSUPPORTED FORMAT IN DRIVE 'D.
I have also tried H264 and MPEG2 files and they again work with the Windows Media Player but not Power DVD10. Some work my my new DVD/Blu Ray Player and some do not.
I've just downloaded Power2Go Version 7 and get the same results. I also get the same results if I drop the file into Roxio.
Can anybody help ?
Thanks
GR
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I did take the plunge, purchased the Plextor 950SA 12 x Blu Ray Internal writer and have just been watching my Panasonic HD images on the first Blu Ray disc out of the oven. 1 Hour and 51 mins of breathtaking quality with all the cuts, transitions, title and effects I needed. I even managed to use the PD9 Ultra audio denoise facility to remove a mains buzz created because I used an unshielded mic extension cable -and one of the school's lighting control panel units was obviously 'noisy'.
I do question why I was within a gnat's whisker of not being able to fit that amount of video onto a 25gb Blu Ray disc.
But first the detail.
Shot on the Panasonic SD 900 camera I used the 1920 x 1080 HA Quality (not 'P'), I think the total size on the two SD cards I used was about 13gb
On PRODUCE I used MPEG2 with the PROFILE at DEFAULT and the PROFILE NAME / QUALITY at BD 1980 x 1080
I had produced two files, because I originally had to split the project to fit it onto two DVD's.
The 1hr 5min PRODUCE file came out a 12.2gb
The 46min PRODUCE file came out at 8.3gb
When it came to CREATE - I selected BLU RAY and used MPEG2 (not H264) and selected HD 1920 x 1080 on QUALITY.
That set the burn total at 24.194gb, and since the available total shows as 24.202gb - that's pretty close.
I looked at what total the H264 setting would give me and it was considerably less - around 15gb.
I guess with the quality of the disc I have I shouldn't complain, and I'm not actually complaining because it's doubtful if I would ever have to have any more than that on a single disc in the future.
It does raise the question, in fact two questions - (1) What could I do to get more onto a disc (both Blu Ray and DVD) and keep the quality ? and (2) How does Hollywood fit their epics onto a single DVD and as I recall get virtually the whole series of Star Wars, et al, onto a Blu Ray ?
In the meantime I'll go back and marvel at what modern technology can achieve with help from a £700 camera a £70 edit programme and an OAP.
GR
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Bob,
Spent the last half hour going through google, without much success and then I found a thread on Cyberlink.
'BURNING FAILED ERROR CODE a000000a' , dated 23/2/2009 and 22/4/2011.
Regards
GR
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Hi Bob,
Spent the last month editing a 2 hour school play and had to put it onto 2 DVDs to get HQ quality and eventually bought an internal Blu Ray writer to get the best out of the HD quality from the 1920 x 1080 Video - so the School can now offer DVD or Blu Ray. I have to say that my final MPEG2 file burned to a 25gb Blu Ray disc came out at just over 24gb.
I guess someone will come up with a suggestion on your error code but of all the things that I couldn't cope with, burning a DVD has, so far, been without too many complications.
Couple of questions: What video encoding did you use on 'PRODUCE' and how many gb or mb did the file come out to.
When you came to CREATE the disc what settings did you use on 'DISC PRFEFERENCES section
Did you for instance try to go for 'HQ QUALITY' or @ 'SMART FIT'.
Back to basics. How much space do you have available on your computer hard drive.
The 'PRODUCE' file for the project you are trying to burn is presumably resident on your hard drive, mine defaults to the 'MY DOCUMENTS' folder. Showing as Produce 0 or 1 or maybe 8 it will give you the size and then give the type of file, AVCHD', 'Video Clip', etc.
You are obviously desperate and I read recently that having 'PRODUCED' a video file it is not sacrosanct to burn it through Cyberlink but having used the powerful editing features of that programme - just put the final file through your usual burn procedure.
I haven't tried it but I will tomorrow !
Don't give up - HAPPY BURNING !
Regards
GR
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Hi,
I've been keeping below the parapet because I've had a wonderful time actually editing the school play, using the best scenes filmed over three nights to cut into the final 1hr 53mins epic. Loads of cuts, transitions, particles, titles, extra music and even a PIP. Split over two DVD's
BUT, now it's down to the wire and I have to produce copies for the doting parents, mostly on DVD, but I have purchased a Blu-Ray writer for the more discerning.
Now I have CREATED the first DVD at 1hr and 7mins, the amount of disturbance, combing I guess, is a deal more than the PRODUCED render suggested I should be getting.
I even tried AVCHD onto a DVD but I could only use the 720 mode because it demanded 9.3gb of space at 1920, and that is much the same.
I have read many many threads, including the 'War and Peace' sized thread - 15533, mostly about progressive video but I have copied the whole lot and will use it as the blue book for the future - but what to do about my current 1920 x 1080 issue. Most of the PRODUCE files took around 2 hours 40mins to finish and the 264 / 1920/1080 24mbs version is 11gb - it did however fit onto a standard DVD in HQ mode at around 4.3gb.
I have read threads that talk about splitting long videos into shorter sections and I could do that fairly conveniently but the renders seem OK so there would seem to be little point splitting on PRODUCE when I will have to put it back together on the CREATE DVD - apparently where the artefacts abound.
Is this something where profiles might help because I am currently using the default.
I have to keep reminding myself that the 'PRODUCE' files are all fine. And the Blu-Ray burn on my new internal Plextor 950SA is stunning. (264AVC/1920 x 1080 24mbs) for PRODUCE and Blu-Ray / MPEG-2 / HD 1920 x 1080 on CREATE - now with a Viewsonic 1920 x 1080 HD Monitor.
GR
Dell 546, 2.8gb Processor, 6gb RAM, 1tb HD, GeForce 220, Plextor 950SA Blu Ray,
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Hi Carl 3 minutes past twelve.
Thanks for your input.
I guess that I'm a little surprised that there has been so little response to my plea - that's not quite true, because I am
AMAZED that there has been no response to a subject that must be at the forefront of the new HD thrust.
On reflection I can see that most responses on the Forum are seeking knowledge rather than imparting knowledge - and that generally comes from the Senior Contributors
I have ordered the Plextor blu ray writer from Amazon (I can't remember the model exactly but it ends in 950SA).
I promise that I will try and report what comes out of that purchase.
This has become a hot potato because I have, over the past many, many, many years, accepted the quality of the images one can get from 'flying spot' scanning fron 16mm and standard 8mm film and whatever quality one can get by downloading super VHS tape, Hi 8 tape and DV Tape.
I'm sure you will appreciate that the quality of the images from the Panasonic SD 900 Camcorder and I guess from many other modern HD cameras takes our domestic videos to another level.
I have found that by splitting my 2 hour school play in half I can get a reasonable final version on two DVD discs, for those parents without the blu-ray - so we plan to offer both or either.
Regards,
GR
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Greetings Tennessee,
I'm clearly going to have to take the plunge with a Blu-ray writer because the more I watch the quality of the 1080 images and how restricted the image appears, especially on 'SMART FIT' where I can actually fit the whole school play (1 hour 53 minutes) onto one DVD.
Splttiing it in half on HQ quality does improve it but I have clearly have to go Blu-ray to get the ultimate quality out of the new HD mode(s) - and I chickened out of 1080/50p on the shoot because most of the pundits seemed to say that I couildn't get those images onto DVD - so that comes next !
Thanks - Jaime-esque !
When I have some information I'll present it to the World.
But, isn't it wonderful getting there.
Regards,
GR
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Hi Jaime-esque,
I did wonder when Tennessee got onto the scene, and here you are.
Having been through 16mm Kodachrome film in the 50's, Standard 8mm film in the 60's (never got to Super 8 in the 70's) Super VHS in the 80's, and I've worked on Hi 8 videos and DV Tapes this year and now I am blown away by the quality of the scenes I have just been watching from the HD on my Panasonic SD 900 Camcorder. And it includes my Grandson as Buttons in Cinderella so you can imagine how brilliant these image are.
You will appreciate why I want to provide DVD/Blu Ray or whatever to get the best out of what I have captured for all the parents of this extraordinary production.
You haven't listed a particular unit but I can cope with that and I'll go for something that will work (after all I did settle for Power iDirector 9) - which I have to say has been a breath of spring.
Kindest regards,
GR
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Hi Jaime-esque.
I realise that I have referred to a couple of blu ray writers (BDR 205 and BDR 206) as Panasonic - they are of course Pioneer.
Regards,
GR
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