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Hi Jaime-esque.
I realise that I have referred to a couple of blu ray writers (BDR 205 and BDR 206) as Panasonic - they are of course Pioneer.
Regards,
GR
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Thanks Jaime-esque,
I have tried to read through the specs but should I be looking at BD or BD-RE or BD-R or BD-RW. On one of my older Dell laptops I do have the Matshita (I believe that's Panasonic) UJ 220 - BD-RE writer installed. I can write to it and it reads back on the laptop but not on my new Panasonic Blu ray player.
And the specs don't seem to relate to price, in that I can't see what extra quality/facilities/reliability I get for the extra bucks. I've also read through professional reviews and user reviews but I would like to read reviews relating to the use of the writer using PD9 in the highest HD mode.
I have been through a goodly number of the Forums Tech. Specs of their equipment but I haven't seen a blu-ray writer mentioned.
I had a view that if I could find what a Senior Contributor was happy with - it must be good enough for me.
I picked up a thread this morning -http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/15533.page - and that would appear to give me the sp on making full use of the HD Camcorder Mode(s). But on a quick read through doesn't point at any good or bad writers.
So I have enough reading for the next month - BUT - I would be grateful if you could point me in the direction of any blu-ray writers you have had success with.
Kindest Regards,
GR
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Still pondering which blu ray writer to use with my Dell 546 Desktop, so that I can successfuly burn the high definition images from the Panasonic SD900 camcorder at full whack.
I'm baffled that at less than £100 I can buy a writer that 'will write' to 25gb and 50gb discs and I note that Dell are offering one for £504 - and of course they come at all the stops between those two figures.
Panasonic offer the new BDR 206 which 'writes' to the new 128gb blu ray and at a much higher price the older 205 that will only handle 25 & 50gb. I know I'm missing something but of course, I don't know what I don't know !!
I've contacted Amazon and they said that they couldn't answer the Panasonic question and made me contact their supplier - still waiting for an answer, after a week.
I don't really mind if it internal or external but logic would seem to dictate that the internal one would be faster.
In the final analysis I'd like to hear from anyone who has successfuly burned a Cyberlink file to blu ray in HD, ideally 1080/50p.
How, and using what, I guess is the question.
My Dell 546 has a 2.8 processor with 6gb of RAM and with the Windows 7 64bit OS. I'm on PD9 Ultra.
Currently I've split my 1hr 54min School play in half and I'm waiting nearly 3 hours for it to PRODUCE the first half for a DVD.
(AVCHD 264)
No one said it would be easy, and of course they're right.
Thanks - in hope !
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Hi,
I was using a Rode Shotgun and got exactly the same thing when shooting a School Play. I also used a mic extension lead to set the mic up on a tripod separately away from the camera.
We tied the buzzing noise (after the event of course) down to a faulty (or maybe just noisy) fader on the lighting panel.
It only happened in the odd scene when presumably a bank of lights were not on full.
I did however manage to remove the worst of buzzing noise by going into the FIX/ENHANCE mode in EDIT clicking on AUDIO DENOISE and trying the BACKGROUND position at something under 50%.
The AUDIO DENOISE does affect the rest of the sound but the buzz is intolerable, it's worth trying the BACKGROUND level as low as possible to start with, and work up.
I did film the play at full dress rehearsal as well without the extension lead and that was fine.
When I tested the set-up with the mic extension lead the lighting panel was probably not switched on.
So I'll know what to do next time.
Happy editing !
GR
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Thanks pjc3.
Do you ever get the feeling that you shouldn't have started something ? OR certainly not from where you started it.
I have read your notes and followed a very long thread suggested by Dafyyd - all pointing to the fact that I DID start from the wrong place.
Unfortunately the Cinderella school play (almost 2hoursworth) is not just for our own viewing and I suspect that we'll have to produce between 30 and 40 copies for other doting parents and grandparents. We shot Peter Pan last year on an old steam driven Pana GZ 70 and that transferred perfectly to a single DVD.
I could split it into two DVD's and I guess I could offer AVCHD to the people who can play that mode and use avi (as we did for Peter Pan) for the others. I am also looking at a Blu Ray alternative and wondered if you had any views on an ideal burner or recorder to get the best out of the Cyberlink - Blu Ray output.
We have a fairly new Blu Ray player and it seems odd that the disc produced on my Matshita UJ 220 BD-RE is not compatible with it. It did recognise the disc as a BD-RE but showed it as not compatible.
GR
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Sorry guys !
I'm out of my depth - A G A I N.
I did try a section of my 1920 x 1080 Panasonic HA Video in most of the 'PRODUCE' Modes and have even tried the AVCHD Mode in 'DISC TYPE' with the 264 'PRODUCE' section.
The full avi file came out as a 22gb movie clip file and when I tried to create the Disc I had to resort to Smart Fit because the HQ file length was 7.7gb. The resultant 1hour 50mins disc was quite jittery on some of the edges, especially the clothing.
The full MPEG 4 file came out as about 10gb and showed up again with an HQ of 7.7gb - with much
I'm not quite sure where to go nextthe same sort of jitter as the full avi version.
I tried a 6 minute HQ section of avi MPEG 2 and MPEG 4 and the results were OK. On first inspection the best results were from the 264 AVC Mode. But CREATED onto DVD.
I did try taking the 264 Mode and CREATING it via the AVCHD avenue but this will only play on our AVCHD Samsung Blu Ray and it would take up over 15gb of space in the HQ mode on DVD.
I even tried this on my old Matshita UJ 220 BD RE but the Blu Ray Player says it's not compatible.
Not quite sure where to go next.
GR
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What a fantastic set of information for me to try and assimilate over the next year - certainly before the next School Play is produced.
Because this year's Play was imminent I did take the cowardly way out and shoot on the HA 1920 Mode because I didn't want to end up with something I couldn't bring successfully to DVD immediately.
Even so the results were absolutely wonderful; both the Panasonic SD 900 Camcorder and the Rode Video Shotgun mic behaved impeccably - each on their own tripod.
I now have a year to get into 1080/50p and Blu-Ray and I promise that I will explore all the avenues you kind folk have sent me down.
At this very moment I am experimenting with the different recording modes to get the best out of my HA 1920. Up 'til now I have PRODUCED on the avi mode but nothing ventured I'll try a little of each.
I suspect, AND HOPE, that one of you will put me on the right track there as well.
My thanks to you all.
Kindest regards,
GR
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Using a 'new' Panasonic SD 900 Camera, on tripod, and the Rode Video Shotgun Mic., on separate tripod I filmed the School Play.
I used an 3.5mm extension lead to enable me to place the mic away from the camera and everything was as it should be with no extraneous noises on the audio.
I had set-up the previous day's rehearsal with a mixer to provide me with more mic inputs to feed into the camera but a noisy buzz from the stage lighting panel made me remove the mixer and run the camera and mic from batteries. And the results from the rehearsal were perfect.
After I had set up on the actual opening night someone else arrived and fed power to his camera, which was on the same platform as mine.
Listening to the results last night I was alarmed to find that I had a high pitched 'buzz' which I could only hear in the quieter passages of the play and did not hear through the earphones at the time. To be fair I have a typical old age hearing impairment and could only just hear it when it was pointed out afterwards.
I am delighted to report that the AUDIO DENOISE facility on PD9 has clearly analysed the appropriate 'STATIONARY NOISE' and has removed it.
I did run the video's audio track into my Tracer Technologies DC 8 Audio Edit Programme and the 'BUZZ' would appear to be 50hz inspired. I had previously used DC 8 to clean up a very noisy audio but couldn't do it on the 'fly' and found the re-synchronisation a real pain.
I can only assume that there was some sort of induction between the mains cable to the other camera (which was on the same ring as the stage lighting controller) and my mic. extension lead.
I have tried to find out the extent of what PD9 can do with extraneous noise on the audio but there doesn't seem to be much information and I would be delighted to have access to an audio programme that would give me the range of contained within DC 8 and that would enable me to do it on the 'fly' with PD9.
Incidentally, first use in anger of the Rode Video Shotgun Mic. was a real success but it would have been too touchy to have on the camera, even with the 'independent' rubber suspension (basically 'elastic bands') and even made less bouncy.
GR
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Hi Dafyyd,
You did say ask questions and I suspect that you actually enjoy imparting your hard earned knowledge to newcomers.
I just shot a test section on the SD900 with the 16gb card in the HA Record Mode (the highest AVCHD).
It ran fine in PD9 and then I carried out a 'video in reverse' to give it something to think about. When it first started the preview really staggered at every level. Now I seem to be able to run it at the the Full HD Preview and everywhere in between. I even added video speed and video crop and I can still view it at the top level.
None of which I quite understand.
I use the Dell Inspiron 546 with the 2.6 AMD II Processor, 6gb of RAM and the NVIDIA GeForce 220 Display - purchased February 2010.
The monitor is a pretty ordinary Samsung (not HD).
If I was to improve something, either for previewing, rendering or creating DVD's what would be your recommendation - I have to say that giving up and leaving it to someone else is not an option !!!!!!!!!
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Thank you Dafyyd,
It's good to have you essentially confirm what I thought I was seeing (and hearing).
I have a School Play to video at the end of the month and your test tells me that I'll have to put up with the AVCHD (HA) setting for the time being. Although that's pretty impressive as well. I've even purchased the Rode Shotgun Videomic for the occasion. The pick-up is good but the mic sits very loosely suspended in rubber bands - so any handling of the camera makes the mic bounce around with a resultant set of thumps. Solved by putting the mic on a separate tripod, of course. Also purchased a pair of 16gb Sandisk Class 10 30mbps SDHC Cards. I understand that the Class 10 is overkill but I'm getting ready for the next breed of camcorder.
I did send a missive to the Cyberlink site about a week ago, to ask if I could put the 1080/50p through PD9, that was before I did actually try it for myself - but no answer yet !
Thanks again for your time and effort.
Regards,
GR
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Hi,
Spent part of the morning with the SD900 pointed at a mirror on my desk to test lip sync on each of the Panasonic's 5 recording modes. 1080/50p plus HA HE HG & HX. They all playback perfectly on the camera and from the SD card inserted into my Dell desktop.
I will try and attached the 1080/50p and just one of the AVCHD files - they are identified on the audio. Sorry about the background noise - I'm in my son's office with machinery whining.
When I try it on PD9 the sync on the 1080/50p is certainly odd and the dodgy lip-sync doesn't appear to be consistent.
I also find it odd that all 5 files are identified as AVCHD .MTS.
It would be nice to understand something !
Regards
GR
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Hi Dafydd,
Just the thought of going through some of those procedures in the 1080 thread frighten me to death and there seem to be so many alternatives - AND -of course would any of them work with my set-up.
Like a number of the correspondents I am baffled by most of the language and whilst I'm happy with what I can now do on PD9, it's taken me over a year to get to this stage.
I guess I'll have to play chicken and wait for the Cyberlink 'fix'.
I do have one question however; with all the talk of the loss of quality with the conversion from 1080p, how much better is that resultant image than the best of the AVCHD versions (HA I believe) on the Panasonic SD900.
Regards
GR
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Panasonic say that 1080/50p files and AVCHD files are incompatible. They also say that the 1080/50p recordings will only play out of the camera into an HD TV.
So, nothing ventured. I put the SD card into the computer and imported those files onto the Timeline of Power Director 9.
Everything seemed fine on all 5 files until I noticed that the 1080/50p was way out of sync.
Has anyone out there tried 1080/50p on PD9 ?
Ron
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Initial reaction to the update from PD8 to PD9 Ultra 64 on my Windows 7 64bit Dell, although I have only been into EDIT so far, is that it's very impressive in the use of 64 bit technology and how well it presents previews of the edit fixes and power tools. And does seem to have cut out the stuttering and stalling I was prone to on the final DVD
I am disappointed that it has somehow lost the way PD8 dealt with the audio on transitions. Where the sound essentially faded out from the first scene and faded in on the 2nd scene - giving a seamless change.
I've been editing over 40 hours of family video during 2010 (on PD and must have inserted well over 1000 transitions.
That type of transition was ideal for the jump cuts I experienced in much of the material shot at school concerts where music was involved. In fact I came to the conclusion that many of the transitions were only necessary because of the way the sound changed dramatically from one scene to another. The same thing applied to shot changes in scenes involving the quiet of the country followed by waves crashing on a beach.
Neither the OVERLAP transition (with the sound overlapping) or the CROSS transition (with the sound abutting) appear to cover that type of shot change and I look forward to a patch or an update - just for me ! Incidentally I haven't managed to show the audio waveform on the PD9 TIMELINE.
Also, I'm sure someone will explain but I am at a loss to understand how I could possible want, or make use of 100 TIMELINES.
Finally, I do have to say that Cyberlink do have a remarkable programme for around £60.
Grandad Ronald
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Hi,
This caught me as well - but I resorted to the tutorials and you just have to click and drag the transition to lengthen or shorten from whatever length you set in your preferences.
Grandad Ron
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Hi,
From the oddest chain of events it appears that the problem I was having with any Fix/Enhance effects - running slow, faltering and stopping on preview, wasn't a problem at all.
It started when I attempted to open PD8 from the desktop icon this morning, without success, and I tried it from the Program File, without success.
Contacted Cyberlink about downloading another copy, still waiting.
In the meanwhile my very computer literate son downloaded a trial copy from the web and 'WE' discovered that although the Fix/Enhance Preview still did not play properly, the added Enhancements were clearly in place.
AND when we continued on to 'Produce', once rendered, it ran perfectly.
My son suggests that the Dell 1525 Laptop or the Video Card are not capable of handling the 'Preview' when it tries to play the 'pseudo render'.
It doesn't really make sense because I have been through yards of Forum material and could not see any other contributors suffering the same fate - and this Dell with a 2.10 processor and 4gb of RAM must be one of the most powerful currently available.
Then within an hour we had a very small test section of video on a DVD with a colour board. title and a fade out.
I have to thank everyone for keeping me at it !
Kindest regards
Ron
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Hi Guys,
Re-read User Guide and re-viewed Workspace Management and Editing Tutorials.
Then decided to work on the first two scenes of the video I had captured.
The 30 minute video (was captured as a single clip and I dragged that down to the 'TIMELINE'.
I 'SPLIT' the first 20 secs or so of dross from the beginning and 'REMOVED' it.
Then 'SPLIT' the 1st scene from the 2nd scene and 'REMOVED' the remainder of the clip - leaving the two scenes on the 'TIMELINE'.
They played OK in 'PREVIEW'
I could see nothing about how to save them and they appear as C Users
Ron Videos with a number in 'FILE - 'OPEN PROJECTS - When I tried to
save it, this message appeared - 'Would you like to merge your Projects Media File with Current Media Files in the Library.
And the two Clips did not appear in the Workspace.
When I highlighted the first clip in the 'TIMELINE' and pressed 'TRIM' the original Clip appeared in the Preview Window.
I'm clearly missing something ! I also can't spot what the buttons ' 'ORIGINAL' and 'OUTPUT' do
Kindest regards
Ron
I have a feeling that I have to do something else to change the subject, but I can't see what ?
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Hi Cranston & Tony,
I did consider leaving corresondence under the original heading because it would perthaps give some background to where the query came from.
But I can see that it would be virtually impossible for anyone to read through the amount of 'stuff' we have collectively generated in such a short time.
I can certainly read into your comments the blood, sweat, tears and sleepless nights you must have suffered. However I can also recognise the degree of TRIUMPH when the light dawned.
Thanks again - I am still back at square one - ruminating !
Kindest regards
Ron
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Hi Tony,
Have taken the advice from almost everybody and went back to study the PD8 User Guide. To discover an important point.
I told you that I added the enhancements from the TIMELINE, but I'm still thinking about the way iMovie works, in fact I worked on SPLITTING, TRIMMING and FIX/ENHANCE from the 'STORYBOARD'.
I used the STORYBOARD view because it seem less cluttered and it gave me a better view of my one clip.
The Guide says that I can't and that it would revert to TIMELINE if I tried, but I did and it didn't.
Maybe that's why I'm having these problems.
I should add that, although I have been talking of miles and miles of video to be done I have only been working on about 2 minutes of screen time, that is (after I split it) 2 separate clips.
Re-reading the Guide also leads me to believe I have made in error in taking on the Ultra version, because it spends more time taking me through the bells and whistles and not enough time getting my video presentable.
I will certainly look through previous guides and tutorials to pick up the messages that don't appear very clear (to me) in the PD8 versions.
Can someone tell me when I should change the topic heading ?
Kindest regards
Ron
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Hi Jaime,
Thanks for your comments.
I did spend a lot of time yesterday trying to take in the many aspects of the programme in the PD8 User Guide and I'm adding the notes from each contributor as they arrive.
I did discover a really important point and if I may I will post it in a further reply to Tony who asked me to run through the procedure that lead to the 'slow motion' video after attempting FIX/ENHANCE.
Kindest regards,
Ron
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Hi Adrian,
Thanks for your post.
It's good to have someone remind me of what I normally do.
I have 4 or 5 large outboard drives because I have a vast collection of music and photographs and some videos.
But did I back up this material ? Of course not, I forgot.
To be fair to myself this one captured tape is a test in itself but you can be sure that the one time you forget to save is the one time something goes wrong. And that's from someone who has over 1tB of saved material, and the same someone who knocked a cup of tea over a brand new computer this year.
Incidentally, I already have the PD8 User Guide in front of me and I take your point about looking at the PD7 Tutorials as well as the PD8.
Thanks
Kindest regards
Ron
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