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Glad to hear it works! I thought it through in my head but didn't have a chance to actually test it out before I posted.

Could you post a screenshot of how you arranged the clips? That will make it easier for other editors who might want to use this technique cool


Here's a screen shot. Each clip has three keyframes: First keyframe is the image being totally out of frame just to the right of the frame, second keyframe is the image perfectly aligned in the frame, third key frame is the image being just out of the frame to the left. Keyframes occur at beginning, middle, and end of each clip.
Quote You can do it with keyframes in the PiP Designer.

The beginning and end clips will be different, but all the middle ones would start with the content all the way to one side and then finish off at the opposite side. Once you've created the first clip like that, right-click on it and use Copy Keyframe Attributes then apply it to all the other "middle" clips with Paste Keyframe Attributes.

You'll just need to stagger them on alternating tracks, because there will always be part of another clip in the frame except at the actual frame transition.

Also, the clips will all "scroll" at exactly the same speed, and you can easily convert a middle clip to the start or end piece by changing one keyframe in each.


Brilliant! Once I figured out just how to stagger the clips this worked beautifully. I've no need for it at present but it's now in my arsenal for possible future use. Amazing how much can be learned on this forum.
I started editing video on a Dell Inspiron 3558 which had just 4gb of RAM and I was using the Shotcut freebie software. It was an absolute nightmare. Constant lockups and crashes! I bought 4gb of RAM off of Amazon ($30) bringing my total RAM to 8gb and it made a tremendous difference. Then I broke down and bought PD17 and that was again a huge difference. I'm still using that trusty old Dell and rendering is "go grab yourself some lunch" slow but there are no lockups and actual editing with PD is quite satisfactory.

Bottom line, though, is do NOT go below 8gb of RAM. That has got to be the bare minimum.
Quote Thanks for your endorsement of the Sharper Turtle!

--Jim


No, thank YOU! Your tutorials have been an immense help. Much, much thanks,
I've downloaded a trial version of PowerDVD and loved it and was all set to purchase it when I hit a stumbling block. If I cast a song from my music library on my PC to the TV to play, it seems I cannot do anything else wiithin PowerDVD on my PC without killing the music that is playing. I want to have my selection continue playing while I poke around looking for another song to play or even looking for a video to cast or whatever. If I cannot do this simple thing then it's a total deal breaker. I'll not be interested at all in buying it. Am I missing something here?
Quote Another option is to upload them to YouTube but make the videos Unlisted. You'll need to copy the URLs of each video and send them out to everyone on your list because nobody can watch them unless they have that exact web address. The videos aren't listed and can't be found through searching on Google or YT, so they're reasonably safe from prying eyes.

You can also put them all on an unlisted playlist and just send that out to your peeps, and a nice the nice thing is that you can add new videos to the playlist all the time and your family and friends will be able to watch them as soon as you upload them.

Benefits are no physical media to buy/distrubute/maintain, and some pretty decent future proofing given that online streaming will likely remain a viable delivery method for a long time - or at least would seem to be a primne candiate for being upgraded to the next gen system.

Very few rights or wrongs here (besides the disc issues JL_JL pointed out), so maybe try out a couple options first before committing to any one approach.


Great advice, Optodata. I had sort of been mulling over the YouTube approach and I think I may be doing that ALONG WITH the DVD's. I had not thought of it from the standpoint of it being a likely long term delivery method but that certainly makes good sense and is very important to me. So like you suggest I'll try out a couple of options and see what floats. I may end up with somewhat of a shotgun approach using several options. Much thanks for the input!
Quote If you want the menu type structure of a DVD/BD one can simply copy the entire video folder that PD creates to the USB stick and they can playback with the full menu with many computer media players. I did someone’s reunion recently and for that I used a 32GB stick and put mp4's on it of each chapter, and also put a full Blu-ray folder and DVD folder on it. Some playback the mp4's on a USB port tied to the TV, others the folder on a computer, others the mp4's on the computer. Some actually burned the DVD or Blu-ray folder to appropriate media and playback on the device of their choice. The 32GB USB sticks were about $4 each.

Jeff


Really interesting information and I'm sure I'lll be using it at some future date. For this particular project (a family history) many of the folks getting a copy will be of somewhat advanced age (like yours truly!) and frankly would have no clue what a USB stick even is. So for this project I think I'll be sticking with good "old fashioned" DVD's. In the future, though, your info will definitely be put to use. Thanks!
Quote I guess I'd ask myself what platform do you think these family members will play your creation on? An AVCHD DVD will ONLY play on a Blu-ray player. If they only have a DVD player, it won't work. The lowest universally playable disc would be a basic DVD but you lose a lot of quality going that route if your source video is of higher quality. Have you thought about a USB stick instead?

Jeff


Wow, am I glad I posted this here! I had no idea a AVCHD would only play on a Blu-ray player. So my original plan is now scrapped. Seems my goal of one size fits all is not the best stratagy so I'm thinking to do it right I'm simply going to have to ask anyone interested in the disk to give particulars on where they will play it and go from there. Thank you so much JL_JL!

And no, I had not thought of a USB stick and that's a neat idea. I've been leaning more on something that can be placed on a shelf and maybe passed down generations. I know, a generation from now they'll be saying, "What's a DVD?" Nothing in technology is static. Maybe those folks that wrote the Dead Sea Scrolls on parchment thousands of years ago had the right idea.
I am wrapping up a two month long project of creating a family history video. I'm ready to start burning disks that I can send out to relatives all over the country. I'd love to hear some thoughts on just what media to use and how to burn it that would make it the most readily playable on most DVD players. BTW, I do not have a Blu Ray burner so that is out. Is AVCHD a good way to go? That's what I've been using for my test disks. It will fit on a single layer (4.7gb) DVD with only a tiny amount of compression when using the Smartfit option. I'm hoping to avoid hearing, "it won't play on my player" from anyone.
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Hi Hankster,
Thanks for the manual.

I purchased this software to simply d/l old dvr cassettes to make DVD's first, and then if I learn enough to edit them.
I cannot capture video from my dvr as the icon is blanked out. I also see in the manual the dvr must be connected to a iee 2394 firewire or usb. I have a RTX 2080 TI and have a hdmi / display port connection but again my software doesn't give me an option to download?? Any recommendations??? Or should I post / call tech support? Do not see where I can do any configuration settings.
Thanks


Herojay, I'm glad you found the user guide link helpful. As to your question, I unfortunately, can offer no help. I would suggest you post a seperate topic concerning this issue on this forum and you might receive some help. The gurus here seem quite willing to offer a hand. Otherwise, yes, I would contact support. I'm sorry I could not personally help.
I'm a newbie to video editing and it has been a challenging and wonderful learning experience. I'm enjoying it immensely. A couple of tips to pass on to fellow newbies that I hope might be helpful:

I've received a ton of good, down to earth, how to info from the tutorials on this YouTube channel:

The Sharper Turtle

You can download a complete PD 17 user manual (and other guides) here and I find it to be an invaluable reference:

Cyberlink User Guides

The heading to this forum says, "where experts meet" and as a newbie I am so glad that's true! I've been helped a lot and learned a lot here. I hope to someday know enough about PD to contribute a little myself. My tip is to read through all the topics, they all provide an opportunity to learn.

Happy Holidays to all!
Quote I have had problems in the past using old menus with mp3 audio. If you look in the Audio folders in the Cyberlink PD17 supplied menus they are in the more reliable wma format. I have use mp3 music myself but convert them to wav and trim them using an Audio editor before using them in a PD menu. Some mp3 audio with the highly compressed variable bit rate causes havoc in PowerDirector if not converted.

The mp3 can be converted with PD17 to wav or wma the normal way with PD17.



Thanks for the suggestion. I converted it to a wav file but unfortunately I'm still not getting a Fade Out. Also, I tried it as a wma file. Again, no dice. I guess I'll do an end around and simply edit my own little 21 second clip with a fade. A Mickey Mouse solution, though.
I appreciate the responses but I think I need to add a few details to clarify my problem.

21 seconds is exactly how long I want the audio to play before looping. It is doing that part exactly right on my main menu and the secondary "scenes" menu. The problem is that it is not FADING OUT. (I don't care about Fading In, you're right, that's not needed.)

At 21 seconds the music abrubtly quits and loops to the beginning. By the way, I've set the duration on the Playback Mode Settings menu to various lenghts from 21 to 99 seconds and that setting does not seem to have any effect on getting the dad gum Fade Out to work.

Again, thanks for the responses.
Windows 10 PD 17.0.2314.1

I can't seem to get the Fade Out option to work when setting up the background music on a disc menu. I set the option but the short music clip (which I have set to loop) ends abruptly each time. Is this a bug or is this newby missing something somewhere?
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I don't think anyone here is looking for an apology. The fact that you found the probable cause and posted it here is a kinda-sorta apology and we actually thank you for adding the information that may help others.


Thank you! After two days of head bashing I needed that.
After much research today I am now 95% convinced that I have been fighting a bug that actually resides in the 10 year old PS3 I've been using to display my output disk. Holy crap, talk about misdirection! There are tons of dusty old entries in various forums that perfectly describe the problems I've been having.

It is not 100% yet but I'm pretty sure I owe PD a HUGE apology. BOTH of the problems I've described on this forum I now believe are attributable to the PS3 firmware bug. I've discovered that the disks I have been burning with PD will play flawlessly on a cheap portable DVD player I have and also VLC will easily play them on my Windows laptop.

Much thanks for the input I've received on this forum and my apologies for raising what appears to be a false alarm, one that does not concern PD.
MAJOR UPDATE:

I'm not sure what to make of this and I'm hoping someone with a lot more knowledge than me can advise.

I've been trying to play the disc on a 10 year old PS3 that I've never had any kind of issue with. I discovered that if I play it at 10x it goes right past the spot where it invariably has skipped forward to the next chapter and then it plays everything else fine. If I play it at normal speed it fails. If I play it at 1.5x it also fails.

Here's where it gets interesting: I just installed VLC on my laptop. VLC plays it beautifully and at normal speed.

Do I have a problem with my PS3? Is that what's been going on this entire time?!!! Or maybe VLC is just better at getting past some sort of glitch?

Input and thoughts are much appreciated.
Quote You say it works perfectly before you burn the DVD.
Have you tried to burn your DVD to a folder in HD, play from the folder. 2 click the file "VIDEO_TS.IFO"
If it works as it should, the problem may be in the recording of the PD or in the media itself.



Thanks for the suggestion. I burned it to a folder but I was unable to get the IFO file to play. I did, however, get one of the VOB files to play audio and it did not have the problem of skipping ahead to the next chapter. So, yes, it appears to be related in some way to actually burning to a blank DVD. I'm thinking it's not the actual media itself because it always skips at exactly the same spots.

Out of desperation I rendered the project to an mp4. I then started a new project in PD and placed that rendered file on the time line. I then set chapters as before and burned it to a disk and It works perfectly. I still have a little minor tweaking to do to the project but I guess I'm just going to try and accomplish it with the that already rendered file.

I just have to think that there is somewhere a cache file, work file, shadow file, or whatever, that is not getting cleared. There is much I love about PD but I found myself sitting at my desk last night literally breaking pencils in half and throwing them across the room. And I'm actually a very laid back guy!

Anyway, thanks again for a most excellent suggestion, one I had not thought of trying.
PD 17.02314.1 Windows 10

I produced a good DVD that played beautifully on my DVD player. No probs at all. Then I made a few MINOR changes to the project and produced another DVD. (None dealing with chapters.) When I play this DVD it goes a couple of minutes into the first chapter then suddenly jumps to the next chapter, then immediately jumps to the next chapter, etc. I can PREVIEW the DVD in Create Disc and everything is hunky dorey. But when I burn the disk I get crap.

I have....

Deleted all chapter markers and recreated them. (Numerous times, actually.)

Manually deleted all temporary files in PD's General Settings.

Rendered the project several times.

Rebuilt my create disk template from scratch.

This is the second time this newby user has encountered a problem in PD that I cannot seem to clean slate for the life of me. (Last time it would only render to a certain point and then produce the video and go no farther.)

I'm producing lots of DVD coasters and frankly becoming more than a little disenchanted with PD. It's very frustrating when you can preview it on the screen and it's perfect and then the DVD produced is over and over the same exact crap.
Wow, I didn't know about the ability to do a File/ Pack Projects kind of thing. Yep, I'm learning here! Much thanks for that. Unfortunately when I decided to move on with a fresh start, I did the jilted lover kind of thing in that I wholesale deleted much material, pics, etc. Wahed that rascal outa my head. The good thing is I now know that the option is available should I need it in the future. Again, much thanks.
Optodata, much thanks for the reply. Yes, I had tried getting rid of the "ghosts" as described in that post. I had high hopes for success, unfortunately, they were not realized. I looked at nesting top to bottom, I'm pretty sure I've got a decent handle on it, unfortunately, that understanding didn't lead to a solution either.

I had really, really hoped to discover the source of the problem as that would prevent a recurrence. After another full day of hitting dead ends I have this evening simply deleted that entire nested bit of footage and am punting. I hate jerry rigging anything but I'll be putting bits and chunks from the compiled nested video, etc, into the main video. Pretty much starting from scratch on that area. It's all cool. It's a learning experience.

Again much thanks for the response. If ever I do come to understand what the heck happened here I'll for sure post it.
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