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I Thank All that have given input regarding my dilemma,
Now ‘armed’ with your helpful information, I believe I need to go back and re-evaluated my options and my situation. I would still like to try and connect my camcorder via IEEE just to satisfy my own curiosity. Who knows, maybe it’s just time to move on and upgrade to today’s technology.
Again, many thanks!
DJP
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Thanks again Fenman for your input,
Once I’ve downloaded the video from the camera to the laptop using the SONY software, I played the (MP3) file back through the (default) Windows Media Player. The video, for being ‘digital’ (even if it’s digital tape) looks somewhat ‘blurry’ as if it was an old (analog) movie.
Now from what I’ve read and heard from various sources, Firewire allows for a ‘cleaner’ digital transfer of data than USB. Are you saying that there should / will is no difference or degradation in video quality between the two connections?
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PepsiMan …thanks for your input,
I apologize for any confusion, but the SONY Handycam model I’m dealing with is the “DCR-TRV22”.
Also, so there is no misunderstanding, after numerous efforts over the past several years trying to connect the above mentioned device to my desktop (which I have windows 7, 64bit Home Premium installed) via Firewire, I gave up the chase.
As of late, and hence my return to this Forum, I am now attempting to connect my DCR-TRV22 to a Dell Latitude D830 laptop running Windows XP Pro, SP3 since the bundled software & drivers are supported on this version of Windows.
As I’ve mentioned, I have been able to successfully connect my device to the laptop via USB. I have downloaded both still images and video from the device to the laptop. However, the video (which is my main concern) quality is less than desirable, that is why I am now tying to connect the camera through the laptop’s IEEE / 1394 input (which by the way is 4-pin).
Since this Dell laptop’s processor is not all that powerful I haven’t installed Power director. Instead, I’m using the SONY software and Windows Movie Maker as an interface in order to capture the video.
Again, as far as I can tell, the laptop’s IEEE 1394 Bus Host Controller installed and appears to be working. I am using a brand new 3 ft. cable, and have double checked the camera’s DV IN/OUT settings. I have tried various power on, cable connect, power on/off scenarios between the laptop & camera. Bottom line, the laptop does not recognize the camera.
If you look at my last post, I have come across some discussion(s) about a “1394.INF” file that can get corrupted and without this file connection between laptop & device is not possible. I may be looking in the wrong place, but looking under the ‘Hardware’ tab, Drivers, there are 5 files listed for the ‘IEEE 1394 Bus Host controller’, but in my case the “1394.INF” file is not present.
Can anyone shed some light on this ‘theory’, or suggest something other than what has already been mentioned above?
Thanks in advance,
DJP
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Thanks Fenman for the reply!
Yes, as I mentioned, I have the SONY software and drivers loaded on the laptop and the USB video / picture transfer works fine, again, we’re talking USB. On the other hand, the IEEE connection does not seem to work at this time.
Doing a little more research I found discussions regarding a “1394.INF” file that can get corrupted for one reason or another. Looking through the 1394 driver details in the ‘Hardware’ tab there are 5 files listed for the ‘IEEE 1394 Bus Host controller’
…but no 1394.inf file in the list. I don’t know that much about programming although it may be possible that this .inf file needs to be present in order for the connection to be successful..?
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Hello Mojo22 & Forum members,
It has truly been a while since this discussion over my inability to connect a SONY DRC-TV22 Handy Cam to my computer, in any way / shape/ or form.
I recently revisited this problem only on a different Windows platform. Since there were, and still are no USB drivers for this model camcorder for windows 7, I purchased a used Dell Latitude D830 laptop w/ Windows XP Professional, SP3 loaded on it. The SONY software / (USB) drivers that came with the camcorder are supported on XP.
To make a long story short, I was able to successfully connect the camcorder to the laptop via USB. However, after further research with regards to a better ‘digital’ connection, I found that the IEEE / iLink to be the better option. The laptop I referred to does have a 4 pin IEEE port and a IEEE 1394 Bus Host Controller installed and appears to be working.
Now for the kicker, after several attempts I have not been able to make the laptop recognize the camcorder …sound familiar?? I have gone through and checked the camcorder settings (eg. DV IN/OUT set to OUT, camcorder set to VCR, etc.), just purchased a new 3ft. IEEE 4 pin cable, and using Windows Movie Maker application as a connection point. All I get is the “DV IN’ message flashing in the lower right portion of the camcorder screen.
I am now to the point of uninstalling / reinstalling the 1394 driver in hopes that this may correct the issue. If anyone is still around to view / read this post, please chime in if you have any other suggestions.
Thanks & Best Regards,
DJP
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...to be honest with you Carl, I did not check the 'Settings'. I just tried viewing the camcorder through both the analog & digital options in Capture mode (since they were both selectable). I then opened the Hauppauge application, adjusted the settings (as I mentioned), and still no video.
I will go back and review the PowerDirector settings as you mention however, I'm not very hopeful of any positive results since the Hauppauge application doesn't show any sign of recognition.
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...Thanks Carl, I thought you were referring to Standard Definition...
By the way, I attempted to connect my Camcorder to the "Hauppauge WinTV HVR-1250 Hybrid TV Tuner" card but again, with no success. I have a ticket into Hauppauge Support since the set up information for my card states that a camera can be connected and its contents (video) will display and have the ability to capture same. Just to be sure my Camcorder was not at fault throughout this whole ordeal, I plugged it into my VCR and the video displayed just fine.
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Carl,
So as not to assume anything, what are you referring to when you mention 'SD' in your posts?
...Thanks!
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...Hi Carl, thanks for replying!
My Camcorder is equipped with an Audio / Video Connection Cable (Audio; red / white, Video; yellow)
, along with S-Video Out so Yes, I can play my tapes on a TV. I also have, and just updated the drivers for a "Hauppauge WinTV HVR-1250 Hybrid TV Tuner /Video Recorder 1196 PCI-Express x1 Interface" card on my system. I plan to try connecting my camera to this card since PowerDirector does seem to recognize it.
Once again, I am just trying to get the best quality transfer as possible, I know we’re talking analog at this point, but I suppose the digital tape is somewhat of a digital / analog 'hybrid'.
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...Just to update you all,
I tried booting the system with the camera connected and turned on, but once again, neither the system nor PowerDirector recognized the camera. I have not had a chance to try out the 'WinDV' software, I hope it's Windows 7 compatable.
Neil, I do have a newer camera that takes HD video it's just that I have video on the digital tape from the SONY Camcorder that I hant to transfer to my computer and be able to edit / clean up, etc.
I still have not received any feedback / response for the Windows 7 Forum, I guess there's not much interest in my topic to help me out....
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Neil ...Tomasc, Thanks for your responses!
Neil, unfortunately, there are no recycling canters of that sort in our area, and given the problems I'm having with the 'vintage' Camcorder I have, I don't think I want to purchase older (unsupported) devices.
Tomasc, I have done / verified items 1 & 4 on SONY's Support link. I have also tried to "Toggle the camcorder menu dv out from on to off", but with no success. However, I have not tried booting the system with the camera connected and turned on, but I will try that. Also, I came across the 'WinDV' web page the other day and downloaded the software, just haven't had a chance to install it, but again, I plan to check this out also.
I'll keep you (all) posted as to the results...Thanks again!
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Hello Carl! ...thanks for your thoughts however,
I thought I mentioned in an earlier post that i did in fact install the "Legacy" driver but it must have been in another Forum. Installing this driver had no effect on the situation, as I've read in other Web postings, in some cases this did fix the problem, in others (including mine) it did not.
By the way Neal, I do not have another DV tape-based camera, nor do I know of anyone that does given all the new technoligy that has replaced models like mine...
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Thanks Dave & Neil once again for your comments!
Dave, Yes, the camera is in VCR mode during the playback sequence.
Neil, I too am in disbelief as to a solution (vs. an alternative method) to my problem. Currently, I have popsts on both the Windows 7 forum and SONY's support site. So far, no replies. I ahve also searched the 'Web' looking for solutions, all I find are similar cases for which similar solutions have been suggested, but I have found no cures to this dilema.
It has been suggested to update drivers (eg. video, capture cards), update the BIOS of the mother board, etc. of which I have not done to this point but probably will soon (even though I don't see this correcting the IEEE card,s inability to correctly interface devices with my system).
Although I initially posted the problem on this Forum, it looks like more of a Windows 7 / IEEE card compatibility issue, hence posting the problem on the other stes as well.
I do want to once again thank all that have responded to my problem here on this Forum, the member's participation has been far greater than any of my other Forum postings.
Not sure how this will end, it's been a much greater issue than I expected given we're not looking for solutions to 'rocket science'...
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Hello Neil,
Last night I implimented Tomasc's suggestion; "the "DV IN" can be changed via the menu on the camcorder to "DV OUT", only to find that the Camcorder's 'A/V' option was already set to "DV OUT". I tried the connection again and for some reason, "DV IN" still displays in the bottom left corner of the Camcorder's screen and my system / software does not recognize the device.
Not sure if I mentioned this, but I just purchased and installed a new IEEE card along with new cableing, once again, the system recognizes the card, but not the device (Camcorder) connected to it. I have also posted this problem on the Windows Seven forum, so far, no replies.
I just don't understand why the camcorder is being ignored by the system????
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Thank you both Tomasc & Fenman for your responses!
Just FYI, I just purchased a new IEEE card (Win 7 compatable), and new cableing. I nstalled the card and reconnected the device(s). Once again the system (Device Manager) recognizes the card, but not the Camcorder.
I will definatly look into the "DV OUT" option on my Camcorder Tomasc, it would be great if this fixes the problem!
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Thanks Neil once again!
I am aware of the (analog) type connections you refer to above, and yes, I can connect my Camcorder to an existing capture card that I have installed in my system. I was just hoping to be able to transfer the data via DV Link for better picture quality.
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Once again I thank you Neil & Steve for your input, I'll try to respond te each of your comments...
Steve, I do not have a Web Cam.
Neil, The (digital) data I want to import into my system resides on digital tape, not a (SD) Card. In your respponse you state; "connect the camera(whichever one I'm using) to the computer as if I still had the software". Since the IEEE interface is not working, and SUB is not supported for my camcorder on Win 7, just how do you propse to connect my camcorder to my system (even in an analog manner) so that it acts "effectively acts like an external hard-drive"?
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Thanks again Mike / Steve for replying,
I know my device is not compatable with Windows 7 via USB connect, however, I remember reading somewhere that when connected via IEEE, the camcorder my not show up in the device listing, but should still be useable through the IEEE connection. I have swapped cables, I am using a 4 to 6 pin 1394 cable. The device manager recognizes the IEEE card and an older external SONY CD-ROM drive.
Another question, why does Power Director highlight the AVCHD capture icon ifthere is no camera connection...??
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Carl ...bonagege ,
The two capture options you refer to in your responses, A (Capture from a DC Camcorder), and B (Capture from an HDV Camcorder) are both under intensified and unselectable. The only camcorder Capture option highlighted (selectable) H (Capture from a DVD or from an AVCHD Camcorder). This option remains 'available' weather or not the SONY DCR-TR22 is connected to the IEEE cable or unplugged.
Carl, I have read through the SONY link you have provided and gone through some of the scenarios listed, but nothing seems to help. The SONY recognizes the DV interface (IEEE connection) since "DV IN" is displayed on the main 'VCR' screen when the camcorder is plugged into the IEEE cord.
I just don't understand why Power Director does not acknowledge the presence of the camcorder???
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Thank you both, Carl & bonagege for your replies!
I'll go back and double check a few things and look into your suggestions ...stay tuned :-)
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