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SONY HandyCam Model# DRC-TRV22 Interface Problem with PowerDirector 9
DJP [Avatar]
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Hello Forum,

My problem is this; I have a SONY DRC-TRV22 HandyCam connected to my system via IEEE 1394 (FireWire). When I open PowerDirector and select on Capture, the camcorder option (image) highlights, as if PowerDirector recognizes the device, but nothing else happens. Typically, using the i-LINK (IEEE) feature of the camcorder in ‘Capture’ mode, a screen representing the camcorder functions (eg. Play, Forward, Rewind, Pause, etc.) would display and function as those on the camcorder. Given this, I could then download / record my video & images from the camcorder to PowerDirector. My OS is Windows 7 (64 bit) Home Premium. I know that there are no drivers in Win 7 for my camcorder however, the i-LINK (IEEE) connection (given all that I have read on various forums) does work.
Has anyone had a similar experience interfacing a camcorder w/ PowerDirector and if so, were you able to correct the problem?

Thanks to All!
Neil.F.1955 [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Joined: Mar 07, 2012 09:15 Messages: 1303 Offline
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Hello, DJP! I take it your camera is tape-based, using these ultra-small DV cassettes, so this cancels out what I might've otherwise suggested(I'll leave the suggestion until the end of this reply). Instead I might suggest you connect the analogue output of your camera via a capture card device and feed it into your computer in this manner. There'll be no perceptible image quality drop and you can still feed in the 16:9 aspect ratio of your clips. The only drawback is you'll need to operate the tape transport functions(play - rewind - fast-forward and picture-search) from the camera's own control buttons. This would, of course be in real-time. This is but a small price to pay. This could be an alternative method of transferring content until such time as you are able to resolve your interface problem. As to the suggestion I would've made if your camera was SD Card-based. This would involve removing the card from the camera and inserting it into a card-reader which is connected to your computer via USB. It's then simply a matter of copy(ctrl+c) the content from the card, then paste(ctrl+v) the contents into a folder wherever you may have it, in Videos or Documents or anywhere else, even on desktop. The content would be ready for edit in a few minutes.
DJP [Avatar]
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...Thanks for your reply Neil!

You are correct, the camcorder records to a digital tape. I have though about transferring the data via analog connect, but I would like to utilize the i-LINK feature especially since it has worked w/ PowerDirector in the past. As I mention in my post, PowerDirector seems to detect the device in that the AVCHD option is selectable in the CApture mode. Once selected, nothing appears in the capture window...
bonagege [Avatar]
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The capture must be done with "acquisition with DV camera" and not with AVCHD.Hi W 10 64 , pc Dell XPS 8000 - core i7 2,8 GHz--ram 6 MB--GEFORCE GTX 1050TI 4GB - SSD 256 + 2x630--area Pal
Videocam: Panasonic SD 700 avchd
Pinnacle 14 - PD 9-13-17
DJP [Avatar]
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Thank you Bonagege for replying...

I'm not sure I know what setting / parameter you refer to in your reply. Could you please elaborate as to what i need to set / adjust in Powerdirector in order for it to recognize my CamCorder?

Thanks Again!
Fenman
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Did your Sony camcorder not come with some capture software? If so the best way would be to use that then import the captured files to PD. I use the software that came with my Panasonic SD-card camera as I found PD didn't capture reliably. Regards,
Mike

Home-build system:
Intel Core i5 Quad Core 3.3GHz, 2 x 4GB DDR3 1333MHz,
Asus Nvidia GT440 1GB, 2 x Western Digital WD10EARS 1TB, 1 x Seagate ST1000DM010 1TB,
Windows 7 Prof 64-bit, PD 9 Ultra 64, PD 13 Ultimate 64
DJP [Avatar]
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Hello Fenman, and thanks for replying!

The SONY software that cam with the Camcorder is not supported in Windows 7...
Fenman
Senior Contributor Location: Cambridge, UK Joined: Nov 24, 2011 04:44 Messages: 731 Offline
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Have you checked on their website for an update? Regards,
Mike

Home-build system:
Intel Core i5 Quad Core 3.3GHz, 2 x 4GB DDR3 1333MHz,
Asus Nvidia GT440 1GB, 2 x Western Digital WD10EARS 1TB, 1 x Seagate ST1000DM010 1TB,
Windows 7 Prof 64-bit, PD 9 Ultra 64, PD 13 Ultimate 64
DJP [Avatar]
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...Yes Fenman, I have, there are no updates for my model CamCorder.
DJP [Avatar]
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forum...

In one of the replies (above), it's suggested that "The capture must be done with "acquisition with DV camera" and not with AVCHD."
Could you please elaborate as to what "acquisition with DV camera" means and / or what I need to set / adjust in Powerdirector in order for it to recognize my CamCorder?
Thanks to All!
Carl312
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Quote: forum...

In one of the replies (above), it's suggested that "The capture must be done with "acquisition with DV camera" and not with AVCHD."
Could you please elaborate as to what "acquisition with DV camera" means and / or what I need to set / adjust in Powerdirector in order for it to recognize my CamCorder?
Thanks to All!

In the Capture module there is a line of devices.
Pay attention to item B.





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Carl312
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Searching the Sony Support site, I found this:

https://us.en.kb.sony.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/42945/c/65,66/p/36919,37620,37692/ Carl312: Windows 10 64-bit 8 GB RAM,AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 GHz,ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB,240GB SSD,two 1TB HDs.

bonagege [Avatar]
Senior Member Location: Italia, Lombardia GMT + 1 Joined: Jun 25, 2011 16:32 Messages: 187 Offline
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Attention, TRV 22 is a DV camcorder, then use item A. W 10 64 , pc Dell XPS 8000 - core i7 2,8 GHz--ram 6 MB--GEFORCE GTX 1050TI 4GB - SSD 256 + 2x630--area Pal
Videocam: Panasonic SD 700 avchd
Pinnacle 14 - PD 9-13-17
DJP [Avatar]
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Thank you both, Carl & bonagege for your replies!

I'll go back and double check a few things and look into your suggestions ...stay tuned :-)
DJP [Avatar]
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Carl ...bonagege ,

The two capture options you refer to in your responses, A (Capture from a DC Camcorder), and B (Capture from an HDV Camcorder) are both under intensified and unselectable. The only camcorder Capture option highlighted (selectable) H (Capture from a DVD or from an AVCHD Camcorder). This option remains 'available' weather or not the SONY DCR-TR22 is connected to the IEEE cable or unplugged.
Carl, I have read through the SONY link you have provided and gone through some of the scenarios listed, but nothing seems to help. The SONY recognizes the DV interface (IEEE connection) since "DV IN" is displayed on the main 'VCR' screen when the camcorder is plugged into the IEEE cord.
I just don't understand why Power Director does not acknowledge the presence of the camcorder???
Fenman
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I haven't used IEEE1394 for a while but from what I remember when the cam is connected and powered up it should appear listed in Device Manager. I'm afraid I can't remember whereabouts in the list but if it doesn't appear in Device Manager it won't be detected by any applications.

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Regards,
Mike

Home-build system:
Intel Core i5 Quad Core 3.3GHz, 2 x 4GB DDR3 1333MHz,
Asus Nvidia GT440 1GB, 2 x Western Digital WD10EARS 1TB, 1 x Seagate ST1000DM010 1TB,
Windows 7 Prof 64-bit, PD 9 Ultra 64, PD 13 Ultimate 64
stevek
Senior Contributor Location: Houston, Texas USA Joined: Jan 25, 2011 12:18 Messages: 4663 Offline
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Mike is correct, look for the IEEE connection in the Windows "Device Manager". If there is a problem, it will not be there or it will be there with an exclamation point. If it is there with an exclamation point, right clcik on it to delete it and reboot. Windows should then find and install the drivers for it.

One recent poster recently found out that his "front" IEEE jack went bad, luckily he had a second on the back of his computer. Do you so you can try a different IEEE connection?

I assume that you are using the correct cable pin set up. If it worked before and doesn't now, then perhaps the cable is defective. If it is new, double check the pin (4 pin to 4, 4 to 6 etc.)

Have you thought about using Windows Movie Maker to see if it will see the camcorder? .
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Neil.F.1955 [Avatar]
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And, with all due respect to Stevek, Fenman and Carl312, in the event that you cannot get Power Director to "recognise" your DV cam-corder for direct digital capture, there's still that option I suggested of feeding the analogue output(A/V connections) through a Capture-Card. I have a couple of SD card-based digital videocameras, and have misplaced the software discs for them, but I'm still able to copy the content of those cards onto my computer by the following means: A) remove the SD card from the camera and insert into separate USB card-reader(the computer's inbuilt SD card slot doesn't seem to recognise them while an external card reader will do - funny, that!), or B) connect the camera(whichever one I'm using) to the computer as if I still had the software, the camera effectively acts like an external hard-drive. Once on my computer, the files appear with a .MOD extension instead of the usual .mpg, plus I have to do my own "sorting out" of when they were created, using the "properties" option. A small price to pay to be able to continue using my digital cameras.
DJP [Avatar]
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Thanks again Mike / Steve for replying,

I know my device is not compatable with Windows 7 via USB connect, however, I remember reading somewhere that when connected via IEEE, the camcorder my not show up in the device listing, but should still be useable through the IEEE connection. I have swapped cables, I am using a 4 to 6 pin 1394 cable. The device manager recognizes the IEEE card and an older external SONY CD-ROM drive.
Another question, why does Power Director highlight the AVCHD capture icon ifthere is no camera connection...??
stevek
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Neil, I believe it is a digital tape camcorder; not a memory card camcorder. Once should be able to capture the video using a USB connection but as such, it acts as a web cam with no video.

Yes, there are several digital capture card (and software) that could work.

DJP, do you have a web cam? It might be seeing that.

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