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Quote: I can find no way in PD7 to change frame rate to anything but 25 and 30.
PD isn't the most flexible when it comes to output settings .
Quote: Does it in fact output a 50i/60i file since that essentially translates to 25p/30p?
Yes
Quote: Or is what's produced when selecting to create a BD not reproducible when creating a file?
It creates the same video file but in a folder structure which is compatible to play back on BR player. You can create a "disc" on your hard drive even without a BR burner and retrieve the resultant video file. It is the same output as from the "create file" module.
Quote: I wish there was a tool that would actually tell me something about these files. Nothing I've found will tell me whether they're interlaced or progressive.
Try mediainfo.
I know what you are saying and don't get me wrong if you think PD shouldn't have a 1080p25 output. No licensing issues involved. But it still shouldn't make any difference to how your video looks.
It is not changing frame rate at all. All PD is doing is splitting the one frame into two identical fields. At the other end either you player or your panel is merely interweaving the two fields back to one frame again. No loss of info.
This is because the video was captured at 25fps but transmitted at 50 fields per second. (I am talking PAL counties using 50 Hz equipment. For NTSC countries it is 30fps at 60 Hz).

As it happens I don't like 1080p25 mode as the motion not as smooth compared with an interlaced mode (due to the double number of fields which are created in interlaced mode). If a consumer camera could capture at 1080p50 and I have an editing programme which could handle that then I would use progressive format.
Hi C,

Hate to go on but at the moment my version of PD edits my 1080p25 (25 full frames per second) clips quite happily. When I output to BD format, the resultant file is 1080i50 which has no loss of information at all and when played back even on a most basic 1080p display as even simple weave deinterlacing will reproduce the 1080p25.

if you chaps are talking about 1080p50/60 then you have better cameras than I
While not really answering the question:
if the camera captures at 30 frames per second progressive then an output of 1080i at 60 fields per second will be same quaility as even simple deinterlacing will recreate the progressive frame.
That being said it would be nice to use the native format all way through editing process. Who knows if PD stuffs up when converting to field based format.
Quote:
The only think I didn't understand about your post is that you said for hybrid disks I would have to use AVCHD. If blue ray can play multiple formats then why would I be stuck with AVCHD? Maybe I didn't understand what you were getting at.

Hybrid discs burn in a modified BD structure on standard DVDs (get about 20mins worth of video) which can be recognised by some BR players (PS3 for example). People often use this as DVD media is cheap vis BD.
Quote: As for the other output profiles, I didn't know what they were for. I assumed the ones with BD were for blue ray disk, but I didn't consider the others.

The BD under Mpeg2 is definitely a Blu-ray disc profile. Remember though Blu-ray specifications allows for playback of mpeg2, AVCHD and VC1. PowerDirector have chosen to use mpeg2. Depending on what your target playback device is going to be I suggest you use the BD profile as the resultant file is better than rendering in AVCHD in terms of artifact introduction. Mpeg2 even at 25 Mbps is easier to playback than AVCHD at 17 Mbps. (and easier to edit)
Unfortunately if you are going to burn hybrid discs (an economical way to view video on some BR players) then your only choice is to use AVCHD with it's resultant loss of quality.
Quote: pjc,
I tried encoding a series of your clips for a total length of 1:41 and I was able to render that project in a little less than 10 minutes.

Just for comparison, 1:40 (9 clips back to back) took 4:30 to render at 1920x1080i with a Q9550. 3.2Gb RAM XP SP3.
Quote: Don't judge the quality of the render by playing back in Power Director, judge by playing it back using an appropriate player.

Hi Bif,
the difference between the original and the render can even be seen in PD preview it is that bad. The AVCHD render engine is seriously flawed in PD IMO
I had a pointless dialogue with customer service about the same issue and gave up. If you return PD you may not find much better offerings elsewhere . I have tried Studio, Video Studio and PD with AVCHD and settled on PD as being the best all rounder atm. (and this is despite it having awful AVCHD rendering).
I have commented before that in my experience the rendering engine for SD mpeg2 is better when going direct to disc even when creating DVD folder on hard drive.
Try creating a DVD folder using the create disc module, retrieve the VOB files from there and then create the DVD using these VOB files.
I can confirm SVRT currently works with Canon HF100 until it has to render ie transition. It then renders all footage from then on (this has been brought up before) and effectively makes the SVRT pointless.

SVRT does not work at all with Panasonic SD9 clips.
I suppose the easiest way to get your answer is to wait until you receive your Canon and see how it goes. :

I suspect you will (just) get away with what you have.

Here are two downloadable files from a Pana SD9
http://www.4shared.com/file/68166870/845f7b33/1920x1080p.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/68167383/2e27bec2/1920x1080i.html

The Pana and Canon are slightly differnet in how they use B and I frames for referencing but generally play the same on my PC. These clips are 25 fps not 30 (Aus version of camera)

Hope this helps.
Don't necessarily believe PD. It wants to convert my upper field first clips to lower field when I use the analyse function.. The resultant file is as to be expected .... terrible.
Hi BW,
Some comments.

I am not sure why there is no audio. But as you say it seems to be a WMP problem (audio codec incompatibility?) not a PD problem. My HF100 footage converted to DVD HQ plays fine on WMP. You might want to download ffdshow codec pack which might help.

When creating SD Mpeg format from AVCHD, lots of compression artifacts are introduced with PD. My advice is after you are happy with the project and have test rendered to a file on the PC, do not use this file for the DVD authoring but skip to Create Disc. I have found that the resulting file has fewer artifacts if you use the disc burning module compared with the Produce module (it doesn't make sense but it is so).

Another suggestion (which I am sure you are doing), is to make sure you are making HD files of all your projects now so when you have a Blu-ray playback ability you haven't wasted all that nice HD content.
PD again is not very good at rendering AVCHD and introduces artifacts and I have found converting to Blu-ray format (HD mpeg2) gives a better result.
Quote: pjc,
B*****, I knew there was a post about it but couldn't locate it. Another re-invention of the wheel!

Adrian

Seeing we both posted replies in the same minute, I think we can be excused for doubling up.
Quote: Curious about creating the disc. When making the disc, is it possible to have multiple movies on a single disc? I have been making movies of my kids and would like to have a single disc with multiple movies, one for each of them. Is it possible to have "chapters" to click on in the title screen that would start different movies?

Thanks for any info anyone can provide.

Try here
http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/4473.page#17162
Quote: I'd like to do some white balance correction and simply render it to a regular DVD in high def that's playable on a Blu Ray player.

If you are applying a filter over the video then the rendering time is much longer.
I have no idea why they didn't bundle the codec - perhaps a legal/financial decision. I have jumped ship (sort of) from Ulead, so Powerdirector 7 is my first Cyberlink product so I can't comment on PD6.
AVI is a container which can incorporate many different video types but yes PD will use AVI if it has the codec support.
Divx has to be installed independently but then PD can use these files.
Nice specs Just a work of caution when rendering the AVCHD files. Go into File(director's chair)>view>SVRT and change the configuration to match your files (AVCHD 1920). If the project has to be completely rendered then you may be disappointed with the result. I have found the AVC rendering engine in PowerDirector to be substandard introducing a lot of blocking and loss of perceived definition. I am not alone in this complaint. As a work around, I render to BluRay format (Mpeg2).
Hi Melody,
As per Adrian, but also can you specify camera model and also computer processor specs?
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