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Please disregard this whole thing. As I said in my original post, I've been away from PD for a while and forgot a lot. The solution is so simple it's embarrassing. Edit the video from the back towards the front. That preserves the time codes for the cuts that have to be made.
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I worked out a solution. When I split the 45 minute project into 4 ten minute and one 5 minute sections, the original time codes remained for the sections I hadn't worked on yet so I didn't have to adjust the codes for my edits. I was pleasantly surprised by that. I only had to complete a section fully before I saved for later work.
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I shot some footage (AVCHD) of many dogs at a shelter for a friend. I rendered it into a single 45 minute clip for her to select scenes which she did using the time codes. Unfortunately for me she picked 100 clips, giving me the in and out time codes. I've been away from video editing for a while and have forgotten a lot. I started to use the multi-trim function which worked well. However, I didn't realize that I couldn't save and restart because it throws away all of the video after the last trim.
I can't do all of this in one sitting. Any suggestions? I know I can split the 45 minutes into 4 or 5 segments and then multi-trim each segment but that would require me to do some arithmetic on her time codes. Thanks for your help.
Bill
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Thanks Nathan. I guess all of the discussion in this thread was so intimidating that I was thoroughly confused. So what you are saying is that PD9 has the ability to import the 60p video, easily edit it and then Produce AVCHD or BD discs, albeit to the existing standards (not at 60p). This is good. I was afraid that in order to edit/burn an AVCHD disk or a Blu Ray disk, I would have to set the camcorder to record at the existing (lower) standards, thereby frustrating the whole purpose of buying a 60p capable camcorder.
If I understand you right then I should definately consider a 60p camcorder and freely shoot 60p video, just understand that, for now, my discs (AVCHD or BD) will be at current standards. That will work for me.
Thanks again.
Bill
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I posted a rant earlier in this thread that as great as 60p is, it really isn't ready for prime time. The postings since then have convinced me that my observations were correct. This is no format for the average video hobbiest. I'm not saying that it can't be edited at all; you guys have shown that it can be. However, it only is after heroic measures, and the average guy (me) isn't capable doing/understanding those. I don't understand why the manufacturers would put out something like this so prematurely. Now, I want to pose a simple question, the answer to which may prove me wrong. I hope I am wrong.
Can a person who wants to capture at the highest quality (60p) and is willing to postpone production at that level until the software/standards catch up, convert the 60p to either 60i or 30p easily, for production/sharing now? In other words, can I easily import the 60p files into PD9 and edit and produce at those lesser formats now, while preserving my original copy (60p) for later use? In my earlier rant, I wondered whether the software could simply skip every other frame to output a 30p stream. This seems so simple that I have to believe there are reasons beyond my knowledge that would prevent this. Does the Panasonic HD writer do anything to "convert" the 60p to a more useable format? If not, is there any utility software that does such a conversion?
Finally, I understand that this may have been answered already in this thread. I'm just not knowledgeable enough to understand if it has been.
Bill
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Thanks. People should note that in "Edit, Preferences, General" checking "Automatically check for software updates" does not check for software updates.
There were several updates that I needed however I only downloaded the most recent. My build is now 9.0.0.2702 (from 9.0.0.2330a). Should I assume that the most recent update will bring PD9 up to date regardless of earlier updates?
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How do you get the update? In the preferences I have "automatically get updates" checked but I've never gotten any indication that its being done. I have PD9 Ultra 9.0.0.2330a
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I'm going to stop torturing myself and just go directly to "Create Disc" and select the standard Blu-ray profile.
Carl, I'm curious why you referenced third party blu-ray burning software. Is there a reason not to use PD9 to create the disc?
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I just produced the project as mpeg-4. Earlier I had done the same project as AVCHD (to burn to a standard DVD before I got my bd burner). My monitor isn't the greatest so I can't rely on a visual comparison. However the Mpeg-4 is significantly smaller than the AVCHD file, 1.2 gigs vs 1.6 gigs. Assuming a larger file is better quality (I realize that may be wrong) and that the project is so short, I'd like to maximize quality.
Sorry to be so anal about this but I want to get it right before I commit to burn, given that 3 bd-r discs just cost me $14.
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Thanks guys. Now is there anybody out there with a tie-breaking opinion? The overriding factor is highest quality output.
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I realize this is probably a dumb question but I don't know the answer and I've looked here and in the (sparse) PD9 manual.
I have a finished project that was shot on my Panny SD9 AVCHD, 1080i, 17mbs. I want to first "Produce" the file before I "Create Disc" for Blu-Ray. Everything is clear if I were to go straight to Create Disc but not so clear otherwise.
What format would I choose? Would it be MPEG-2, H264 AVC, or MPEG-4?
Its a short project (15 minutes) with a simple menu structure and minimal transitions, etc.
Thanks,
Bill
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It looks like the SD600 is back in stock at Amazon and I'm seriously thinking of pulling the trigger. However, I still don't understand the editing situation (trying to understand; believe me). I currently have a Panny SD9 and being unhappy with the 1080i, I've decided to switch it over to 24fps to get 1080p. I have a blu-ray burner and intend to make BD discs. However, in order to burn to blu-ray it sounds like the 60fps 1080p output of the SD600 will have to be converted to 24fps. If that is true, would there be any improvement to buying the SD600 apart from the better features such as better face rec, better OIS, etc?
Can somebody please talk me through this in terms a non-techie could understand? I think a lot of members could benefit from this. Thanks. Btw what I don't like about the 30fps 1080i is how poorly it handles motion (even moderate motion).
Bill
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Carl, thanks for the tip. It looks like my model is a no-go for that feature. I'll continue researching though.
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OK here's my last posting on the subject. Also what follows may not be allowed by the forum rules so I won't be surprised if it is removed. The following is a link to a product that just happens to include a lengthy list of printers that support direct disc printing (on the right side). Props to Carl for the google search terms because that's what led me to this link.
http://www.acoustica.com/cd-label-maker/support/cd-dvd-label-jewel-case-support.htm
I don't use this product, not affiliated in any way and know nothing about it. Just putting it here for the printer listing. Hope it survives but I understand if it doesn't.
Bill
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Thanks Barry. You're right about HP's. I don't see any that support disc printing (except for big $) whereas Epson has quite a few and some that address my other requirements too. I'll probably pick one up.
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Permit me to withdraw my snippy comment to Barry. I got off my a$$ and looked at Epson printers. Good referral Barry. My apologies.
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Carl, what you said about Canon printers is interesting. I bought myself a Canon Pixma MX340 for use at my part-time work (yes, I bought it myself for my own convenience). I don't think it supports CD/DVD printing but I'll have to explore that when I go in on Tuesday. Thanks.
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Not a whole lot of help Barry.
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But as someone said here in another post, with the advent of Lightscribe there seems to be fewer inkjet printers that will do DVD's, etc. And there aren't any Lightscribe BD media. Would it violate the rules of this forum to name your inkjet printer? I need a new printer but it has to be for general use and I need other features. Finding one that fits all is becoming very difficult.
I've noticed that Avery advertises a special "film" material that presumably is thinner and better adhering than paper. Maybe that will work. Whatever I produce will be viewed very infrequently.
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Jamie, I guess I wasn't as clear as I should have been. I'm aware of using markers for labeling discs. It's just odd that after spending all we spend on our equipment (computer, camcorder, software, etc) and all the pride of authorship we have in our projects that we have to produce such a shoddy looking product as a marker-labeled BD disc. It seems to me to be a market niche that is screaming to be filled.
Des, I agree that Lightscribe is greatly overblown. For DVDs I use it only for text labels. Graphics are dull and look like you did something wrong. And you are right; it seems that there were more disc-printable ink jets a couple of years ago. I searched for your Canon but as you said, it is discontinued.
At this point I would gladly use Lightscribe but they just don't make LS BD discs. Very odd situation. Maybe I'll roll the dice and use a paper/adhesive labeler.
Bill
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