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YNLExposure
Member Location: Nevada Joined: Sep 25, 2011 18:14 Messages: 65 Offline
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Increasing speeds is always an aim of mine.

If you do not add a second video card, how much speed improvement is there in upgrading to PD 11 from 10?

I currently have a GTX 470, Win 7 64, 16 GB RAM, i7

Thanks for the help.
Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
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Quote: Increasing speeds is always an aim of mine.

If you do not add a second video card, how much speed improvement is there in upgrading to PD 11 from 10?

I currently have a GTX 470, Win 7 64, 16 GB RAM, i7

Thanks for the help.

Speed is subjective.

It is too easy to compare apples to oranges, in comparing speed of PD10 to PD11.

Your computer configuration has more to do with the relative speed of producing videos in Powerdirector than anything else.

There have been comparisons in earlier versions of Powerdirector with multiple Video cards as opposed to a single Video card.
To the best of my memory, the speed improvement was less than 10%.

Carl312: Windows 10 64-bit 8 GB RAM,AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 GHz,ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB,240GB SSD,two 1TB HDs.

Carl312
Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline
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If you want a user viewpoint.

Powerdirector 11 is a big step in the right direction. There are many, many improvements in PD11 compared to previous versions of Powerdirector.

I wrote this review.
http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/24671.page#133978

There was much more to cover, but had to stop somewhere.

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Carl312: Windows 10 64-bit 8 GB RAM,AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4 GHz,ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB,240GB SSD,two 1TB HDs.

YNLExposure
Member Location: Nevada Joined: Sep 25, 2011 18:14 Messages: 65 Offline
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I should explained my question better. Speed of rendering/producing finished products.
The PD 11 ad says, "Create videos at up to 38% faster than PowerDirector 10 with the latest 64-bit TrueVelocity 3 Engine"

I believe this is due to its ability to use 2 video cards where PD 10 could not?

ynotfish
Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Offline
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Hi YNLExposure -

Here's a thread specifically on the topic, with some feedback from the CL Product Manager http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/24947.page

I think it probably answers your question.

Cheers - Tony
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YNLExposure
Member Location: Nevada Joined: Sep 25, 2011 18:14 Messages: 65 Offline
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I have the Sandy Bridge i7-2600 3.4 GHz but the conversation doesn't really speak to my question. It doesn't even answer the forum question being asked.

His question: Has anyone seen the increase in speed using PD 11.
One response said, "I have the i7-2600@3.4Gh processor ( i believe it is the Sandy bridge one) and I did notice a speed difference. But I am also running a 560ti GeForce 560ti Graphic card. I have not compared with PD10 (but I still have PD10 installed)."
I don't know how he says he noted a speed difference yet did not compare it with PD 10???

My question: Is their any gain in production speed using PD 11 vs PD 10 with only one video card?
I understand there are some other features. Just have to decide if they are worth $80 upgrade.

Always some salesmanship with new releases. You just have to do your homework especially if you don't plan to double up on your video cards. Might have to consider that as well.

Thanks to Carl and YNOTFISH for your help.

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James1
Senior Contributor Location: Surrey, B.C., Canada Joined: Jun 10, 2010 16:20 Messages: 1783 Offline
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Hi,
It is hard to decipher the speed difference now ( I think) cause of the problems with the 'Cuda' drivers...from Nvidia..
I believe it was I who posted what you referred to.
Jim Intel i7-2600@3.4Gz Geforce 560ti-1GB Graphic accelerator, windows 7 Premium 12GB memory

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JL_JL [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Location: Arizona, USA Joined: Oct 01, 2006 20:01 Messages: 6091 Offline
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Quote: My question: Is their any gain in production speed using PD 11 vs PD 10 with only one video card?


For me the answer has been no, http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/15/24879.page#135352

Quote: Additionally, what PD11 has done with next generation of TrueVelocity3, cpu and multi-GPGPU encoding is currently somewhat a mystery to me. I only know my CPU encoding of about 15 different projects have a 5-30% slowness factor relative to PD10, same hardware.


On several tested large projects I noticed a worst case 30% slowup for HA creating a BD folder and 25% slowup for CPU encoding creating a BD folder. In some tests it was a wash. In 15 different projects tested not one performed faster in PD11 on my system.

GTX580
1090T CPU

Jeff
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Senior Contributor Location: Canada Joined: Aug 21, 2009 11:24 Messages: 1431 Offline
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YNLExposure,

I have ATI graphics (single card) and PD11 does NOT run any faster on it. Because of some changes in the SVRT process I actually found some renderings SLOWER on PD11 versus PD10. This can be rectified by creating a custom profile which kicks SVRT back into the process. Win 10, i7
YNLExposure
Member Location: Nevada Joined: Sep 25, 2011 18:14 Messages: 65 Offline
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Thanks for clarifying you upgraded the video card too JL_JL.

HDedit, now that's a great response for me. I usually produce MP4 highest quality or AVCHD DVDs. Going to PD 9 then 10 while also first having Win 7 64 and the GTX470 was an amazing upgrade over Premiere Elements, XP 32 with an nVidia 8800.

I'll likely hold off on PD 11 for now. Will research the other improvements. I am considering a Dell U3011 and may obtain another GTX 470 (bargain now) vice two $300-$500 new video cards to run it adequately. Then perhaps there will be definite proof that PD 11 surpasses PD 10 WHEN combined with Sandy Bridge+ CPU and twin video cards.

Thanks to everyone contributing!
Robert2 S
Senior Contributor Location: Australia Joined: Apr 22, 2009 05:57 Messages: 1461 Offline
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I have dual 460's and PD 10 did not utilise both cards during producing. I won't know if PD11 will use both cards until the video driver issue is fixed. My youtube channel====> http://www.youtube.com/user/relate2?feature=mhsn
YNLExposure
Member Location: Nevada Joined: Sep 25, 2011 18:14 Messages: 65 Offline
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Robert2

PD 10 doesn't have the ability to use 2 cards.

Sounds like the CPU is a critical piece.

Has anyone used PD-11 with the older nVidia driver?
Robert2 S
Senior Contributor Location: Australia Joined: Apr 22, 2009 05:57 Messages: 1461 Offline
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I use PD11 with the 301 video driver. Plus I don't use Cuda due to past problems reported that it produced lesser video quality.

Remember though I come from an era years ago of starting my producing one day and if I was lucky it would be finished the next morning, so a few extra minutes of producing time without Cuda is not a worry for me. My youtube channel====> http://www.youtube.com/user/relate2?feature=mhsn
YNLExposure
Member Location: Nevada Joined: Sep 25, 2011 18:14 Messages: 65 Offline
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My first videos were standard def and like you I'd finish, hit render and go to bed hoping it worked!

It's great now getting high def out a little shorter than the time the video lasts.

Now it's upload to YOUTUBE where I hit upload and then go to bed! ;
Robert2 S
Senior Contributor Location: Australia Joined: Apr 22, 2009 05:57 Messages: 1461 Offline
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Quote:

Now it's upload to YOUTUBE where I hit upload and then go to bed! ;


Yes I am the same, I have throttled upload speeds from my isp provider, downloads fine, uploading is a pain. My youtube channel====> http://www.youtube.com/user/relate2?feature=mhsn
JL_JL [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Location: Arizona, USA Joined: Oct 01, 2006 20:01 Messages: 6091 Offline
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Quote: Thanks for clarifying you upgraded the video card too JL_JL.

Not sure about your statement here, I used the 301.42 driver for the testing. Video card is the same GTX580 I've used for PD10 and PD11.

I quoted a slowness issue over many projects, if for example you simple take several nature.mpg put them in the timeline and "Produce" or "Create Disc" both products perform the same for me with HA or CPU encoding and many output formats evaluated. The worst case slowness occurred when importing several (9) moderately complex timeline pds files into the "Create Disc" module for final assembly of a BD h.264 project. This is common workflow for many that work with larger projects.

Jeff
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Quote: I should explained my question better. Speed of rendering/producing finished products.
The PD 11 ad says, "Create videos at up to 38% faster than PowerDirector 10 with the latest 64-bit TrueVelocity 3 Engine"

I believe this is due to its ability to use 2 video cards where PD 10 could not?



http://www.cyberlink.com/products/powerdirector-ultra/features_en_US.html
Yes, 38% comes from multi-GPGPU acceleration. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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I've got 2 GTX560's in SLI. But PD11 doesn't have use of CUDA cores in Hardware Acceleration like it use to in PD9.

I tried changing the GpuUtility.dll file in PD11 with the one frpm PD9 per thread on this forum for PD10. I get the CUA option now, but it can't be enabled; ie you can't tick it.

Am I doing something wrong? i7 3820, Asrock X79 Extreme 3, 16GB 2133 G Skill, 2 x GTX560, Corsair TX750V2, Sandisk 120GB SSD, Barracuda 2TB HDD, PD9
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