My 3 GTX285's are running at 720MHZ, though I bet this program does not even utilize a fraction of 1 card,
I doubt it will recognize all 3, I have a screen shot on how fast it will render a 1080i HD movie from AVCHD Full HD. from a Canon Vixia HF-M30 in FXP mode..

I'll come back and edit this post,

I am also going to do some testing and I'll monitor my GPUs with Precision,
I know my CPU was only at 53% max across all 8 logical cores.

Here's the screen shot:
look at the times. I'll post some video or something of the GPU utilazation

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Well I recorded some video, but really no point in posting it.
only 1 GTX285 peaked @ 8% usage, it did this even before rendering, just PD9 open in edit mode.
7-9% and 9% only at times, the other 2 cards did nothing.
now this will be totally different with smaller, and larger GPU's
a 9500GT may get up to 75%, IDK

However, the CPU Spiked @ 72% quite a bit across all 8 threads.,
63% - 72% average of 68%.
now this is overclocked @ 3.35GHZ at the moment,

My Ram maxed out at 2.25GB of 6GB available,
Tripple Channel running at approx 1300MHZ
It is 64-Bit Win 7

I have a lot of hardware, and I dont think this program is utilizing,
but the programs runs super fast and great.

I know that RAID 0 will speed it up as well,
I believe it can be faster using an SSD drive.

24:35 minute 1080i HD movie rendered in 15:43 minutes,
is that fast? it seems to me..

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I have an SLI set up with 2 Nvidia GTX 460's overclocked to 826MHz from standard 725MHz. With a 120 gig SSD HD as my main drive.

1. PD only used one card, the other one stays at 0-1%

2. Rendering a 1280X920 to 1920X1080 15-20Kbits only uses a maximum of 36% of one card.

Bottom line PD is barely touching the power of one of my cards let alone 2.

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Quote: I have an SLI set up with 2 Nvidia GTX 460's overclocked to 826MHz from standard 725MHz. With a 120 gig SSD HD as my main drive.

1. PD only used one card, the other one stays at 0-1%

2. Rendering a 1280X920 to 1920X1080 15-20Kbits only uses a maximum of 36% of one card.

Bottom line PD is barely touching the power of one of my cards let alone 2.

Cheers

Robert2 S

Do you mind if I ask what CPU you are using, cause your card overclocked should be almost equal to mine if not a little more powerful in reguards to relative graphics performance not DirectX,
Maybe it is a CPU thing. we may be on to something, also what % of usage on your CPU / cores etc..

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I have an i7 950 stock 3.07GHz, 8 cores/threads and 6gig ram. Rendering the above mentioned video has the CPU ranging from 87-92% which seems weird when it should be using the GPU. This might explain the low 32% of the GPU and I do have Fast video rendering turned on in PowerDirector.

I do have an option in the bios to over clock the CPU to 3.6GHz but for some reason this setting only uses 4 cores or is it threads and I really don't see much difference between 3.07GHz and 3.6GHz accept extra heat so I don't bother?

EDIT====The ram peaks at 2.22Gig with nothing else open accept PD.

I think computers have now reached a power level that programs have yet to be coded to use it all.


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Quote: I have an i7 950 stock 3.07GHz, 8 cores/threads and 6gig ram. Rendering the above mentioned video has the CPU ranging from 87-92% which seems weird when it should be using the GPU. This might explain the low 32% of the GPU and I do have Fast video rendering turned on in PowerDirector.

I do have an option in the bios to over clock the CPU to 3.6GHz but for some reason this setting only uses 4 cores or is it threads and I really don't see much difference between 3.07GHz and 3.6GHz accept extra heat so I don't bother?

EDIT====The ram peaks at 2.22Gig with nothing else open accept PD.

I think computers have now reached a power level that programs have yet to be coded to use it all.


Cheers

Robert2 S

I agree about the programs not using the hardware, I did not about fast rendering setting??
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I saw the setting to use cuda technology in prefernces,
but only see the fast setting for MPEG4 & AVCHD, or maybe that's limited to trial version.

Either way, to the OP, I really don't see any real value of overclocking your hardware.
unless it's an extreme overclock on the CPU. with Core i7 I do not thnk it is nesacary,
I guess I can do a benchmark 4.0GHZ, but already i'm using a max peak of 73% avg. of 68%
I dont see how overclocking will help it, I have seen benchmarks where the 980x will render faster,
as it is a hexacore with HT, so 12 logical cores. for a grand.

I'll stick with my 920 @ 3.35GHZ

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I thought I would add a little bit:

It was noted during beta testing that PD9 wasn't utilizing the graphic card during rendering to the degree that PD8 did. Andrew posted his observations with each build that was released and I know I was able to confirm it on my system.

Here was one of the topics:
http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/14131.page#66795

So at this point....just an opinion...but I think there is still "a"..."several"...."many" problem with PD9. I hope they get sorted out.

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CUDA is only supported for MPEG4 and AVCHD rendering. ATI Stream will do MPEG2 as well. If I remember correctly, I think I read on the PD8 forum several months ago that one of them may also render WMV as well.

I was working on a project recently of a photo slideshow and I was rendering to MPEG4 at medium quality. It rendered at about real time converting a series of JPEG clips with magic motion and fix/enhancements using CUDA with my 9500GT and a Q9300 CPU. The CPU was running at 95% the whole time. When I used to have an E7200 dual core CPU, I saw a noticeable improvement with CUDA with my 9500GT, but not so much with the Q9300. Q9300 2.5 GHz
4 GB Ram
Nvidia 9800 GT

Man! I go to sleep and out to breakfast...and the WHOLE WORLD jumps on here and answers..too funny.

OK, so as reported earlier , PD9 "says" it uses the GPU, but barely does, even on one "un-overclocked" card!!
And with my 17 CPU, overclocking that is unnecessary (if I read that right).

Great discussion, now...everyone together.... turn towards CYBERLINK HOME and make your "better fix this soon" face...ready?!!?...GO!! Hmmm..wonder if that works???

Thanks guys;
Cya

The best way to put it is that it does work, but it appears to be system specific. Q9300 2.5 GHz
4 GB Ram
Nvidia 9800 GT

I'm seeing plenty of talk about the GPU, CPU, RAM in this thread, but no mention of PD-9's claim to fame, which is the big 316% speed increase that Windows7 64-bit customers experience.

Ref: http://www.cyberlink.com/products/powerdirector/features_en_US.html

I don't do any editing, just DVD burning, but I would expect that you experienced users would be seeing big speed increases with Power Director 9 Ultra (over PD8 Ultra) without over-clocking any hardware?

-AC

Allen;
Yes, I see a great deal of difference in the new 64BIT version of PD9 over earlier versions. Even here though, PD9 doesn't yet fully utilize the additional RAM. I expect all this will change, I am just keeping the subject current to be sure CL knows it's relevance to today's machines.

Also, I am always looking for any additional edge! Just a little greedy I guess.

The issue of GPU utilization by the program is a little bit of a "sticky wicket" for PD9 users. We (well, at least I) want to have more off-loading of the processes to the GPU just because it frees up the CPU for other programs.

Sometimes the processing takes quite a while for large videos, and I would like the freedom to use my machine for other purposes during that time, without potentially impacting the background processing that PD9 has to do.

I am attaching a couple of examples of a h.264 AVC production..one SVRT3 and one "Hardware Video Encoder" to show the difference in CPU/RAM/GPU usage. All original files were Canon Vixia HF11 native MTS files.

Quote: Mr. Scary

CUDA is only supported for MPEG4 and AVCHD rendering. ATI Stream will do MPEG2 as well. If I remember correctly, I think I read on the PD8 forum several months ago that one of them may also render WMV as well.

I was working on a project recently of a photo slideshow and I was rendering to MPEG4 at medium quality. It rendered at about real time converting a series of JPEG clips with magic motion and fix/enhancements using CUDA with my 9500GT and a Q9300 CPU. The CPU was running at 95% the whole time. When I used to have an E7200 dual core CPU, I saw a noticeable improvement with CUDA with my 9500GT, but not so much with the Q9300.

Thanks, I figured it was something like that.
I wonder, what is the benefit of MPEG4 over MPEG2, I have read that MPEG4 is not really ready yet,
and I thought it was supposed to have better compression then mpeg2, I have used both for youtube uploads.
would be nice to keep the quality in a smaller upload. just wonder if someone can shed real world light on it.

Does anyone upload AVCHD to youtube, I have uploaded RAW footage, but not edited, and saved back to.

Also to add to original topic,
I read here on the forum, if you Disable CPU Hyperthreading in BIOS, you can render video faster,
I wonder if they have it confused with the % of usage vs HT turned on.
I mean I would rather have 70% across 8 logical rather then 100% across 4 physical cores.
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Quote:
Does anyone upload AVCHD to youtube, I have uploaded RAW footage, but not edited, and saved back to.

I use a Panasonic TZ7 pocket camera which shoots in AVCHDlite (which is just at 720 instead of 1080.) and a GoProHD which can shoot up to 1080.

I have produced these videos for youtube in the past in everything from .wmv to Mobile phone .3gs to what I use now is H.264 AVC 1080 15-20kbits/s, this gives me the best quality, even if the files are a bit large. My youtube channel====> http://www.youtube.com/user/relate2?feature=mhsn

Quote:

Quote:
Does anyone upload AVCHD to youtube, I have uploaded RAW footage, but not edited, and saved back to.

I use a Panasonic TZ7 pocket camera which shoots in AVCHDlite (which is just at 720 instead of 1080.) and a GoProHD which can shoot up to 1080.

I have produced these videos for youtube in the past in everything from .wmv to Mobile phone .3gs to what I use now is H.264 AVC 1080 15-20kbits/s, this gives me the best quality, even if the files are a bit large.

Thanks,
That's the answer I was looking for, H.264 AVC is the best possible format for (Quality) ? EVGA X99 FTW
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The best quality if you are not worried about file size would be Mpeg2 Blu-ray, which is produced at between 25-32,000 Kbits.

ALTHOUGH producing a raw video recorded at 15,000 Kbits to Blu-ray at 32,000Kbit would not give you much better quality just a much much larger file.

Here is one of my test uploads to youtube using my 12,000Kbit GoPro HD footage.

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Hi Robert

Great video, great 'stretching' and nice landing.

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First of all, Great Video, in more then just quality, I enjoyed it very much.
Made me feel like I was up there with you, if that's you.
Quality was great, considering what you did to it, It's fantasic

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I did a test trying some things you mentiond, My .mts RAW file x 2 is 1.07GB,
when converting unedited footage to mpeg2 BD the file is 1.6GB (I see what you mean) the file got larger.
However converting to h.264 the file was roughly the same size but the color was fubared somehow, it just does not look as good.

the upload will much smaller, but I just want to combine the 2 AVCHD clips into 1 and keep the same quality.
I guess I have to either upload 2 files, or convert to MPEG2 BD?

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Back to original thread:
doing the above from RAW to h.264 AVC, I used the "Fast video....) and chose the Hardware Video Encoder Option.
I got as much as 60% GPU Usage on GPU #2 of all things, while GPU#1 was @ 1%, GPU#3 was idle,

However when the rendering got to about 50% complete the GPU droped to 40%, while the CPU all cores at approx 53%,
I would say it is utilizing quite well, I am very happy to report.
I dont expect it to use Multi GPU, but that would be nice,

I would expect that overclocking would just lower the percent of usage.
overclocking is only a small part of a GPU as there are many aspects, such as number of cores.

I wonder what would happen if I disabled SLI? hmmm. more things to do.

Edit: I forgot the image of my benchmark, it's 1920x1200 so I linked to it instead. was breaking the forum tables
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