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Canon Camcorders Now With Native 24p
Bob in Tucson
Member Location: Milwaukee, Denver, Tucson Joined: May 30, 2008 18:11 Messages: 133 Offline
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Hellooooooooo, der.
I hope I'm not too far off topic here, but when using the Canon HFS21 in any of the 'progressive' modes
(PF24, PF30, and 24F), when panning, I see stutteryness and sluggishness as opposed to near perfect pans using 24 Mbps with 60i.
(I'm just referring to the raw files, not post production files)

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Andrew - Wales, UK
Contributor Location: Wales, UK Joined: Jan 27, 2009 19:16 Messages: 545 Offline
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Hi Bob,

I mentioned the very thing you've just raised here:

http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/11351.page

Hope that helps!

Cheers,

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James W
Senior Contributor Location: Lakeland, FL USA Joined: Aug 18, 2008 10:36 Messages: 911 Offline
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My HG20 does the same thing which is why I normally do not use 24 or 30p. I just thought that was the was the way it was supposed to be. Q9300 2.5 GHz
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Andrew - Wales, UK
Contributor Location: Wales, UK Joined: Jan 27, 2009 19:16 Messages: 545 Offline
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It's definately down to personal taste! I prefer the 25p look, however if I'm shooting in a situation where alot of camera movement, zooming or panning is required I tend to use 50i. Dafydd gave me good advice for shooting in progressive, let the camera record the action and keep camera movement to a minimum!

Cheers,

Andrew

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George1938
Senior Member Location: Northern & Central New York, Summer & Orlando, FL winter Joined: Jun 20, 2009 04:58 Messages: 162 Offline
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Hi Bob, James & Andrew,

I to covered this in http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/11351.page

To refresh I had not noticed this stuttering with my new HF S21 but when first brought up by Jay and then I did a series of tests and what I observed with the HF S21 that ONLY clips recorded in 24F which is true progressive would allow me to pan with no stuttering. Anything else 60i, PF24 & PF30 Media Info would show to be Interlaced, any panning would be highly noticeable with regards to stuttering and not acceptable to me.

On the other hand with my HG21 I have done hours of panning in scenics and again never observed this stuttering as seen with the HF S21, and with the HG21 everthing was recorded in 24PF progressive, but would be converted to 60i interlaced upon loading into the computer.

Thus rather conflicting and confusing results. Perhaps one of you should see what you observe as well using the different settngs. In my case with scenics you are generally panning, or zooming and wild life seldom stays put.

Regards,
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