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Could somebody answer this simple question about PD 13
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Because Nvidia on their Maxwell Series lied about having its HEVC encoding up and running out of the box, I never got a chance to use the HEVC encoding on particularly the 980 Classified that I bought way back in February. My question is: Does PowerDirector 13 even allows hardware-acceleration for HEVC encoding or it's only software-encoding which is the most longest thing known to man??
PepsiMan
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neither! (sorry, I'm not an expert on these areas...)

PD13 utilizes mainly CPU rendering (HEVC is really CPU intensive) with newer video drivers and

supports few hybrid (Cpu(Intel) + Gpu) rendering for older video drivers.

well for GTX 960, some of the forum members seems to like it

since encodes and decodes in HEVC; however, should be-hopefully supports in

PD14.

http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/42338.page#218261

http://www.cyberlink.com/products/powerdirector-ultimate/spec_en_US.html

'NVIDIA: GeForce 8500GT/9800GT and aboveGeForce GT/GTS/GTX 200/400/500/600 Series PLEASE NOTE: For users of NVIDIA cards who have updated to graphics driver 340.43 or later, the video hardware acceleration feature in PowerDirector is no longer available. To re-enable hardware acceleration, please download and install an earlier driver.' - you can't because your 980 is brand spanking new.

happy editing.

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It couldn't be neither because I already rendered plenty of videos in H.265 compression using software encoding with PowerDirector 13. I simply want to know, is PowerDirector 13 able to do hardware-acceleration encoding with H.265 compression???? I simply want to know this because Cyberlink already pulled a fast one on me with PowerDVD 14 not being able to do hardware-acceleration for HEVC decoding.
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K!

answer is no HA.

http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/25/41194.page

I say again, hopefully in PD14.

http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/75/40351.page page4.

search Outofhere aka SoNic67 posts on GTX960...

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What is it that you are posting to me??? You didn't even know PD 13 could do H.265 compression with software encoding. I just want a simple answer to a simple question: Could you do hardware-acceleration with H.265 encoding????

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The Shadowman
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Moorish, with the greatest respect, you won't get many people replying to your posts if they all read like this one.

You won't find a more knowledgeable bunch of people than there are on this forum. If something can be done on PD13, someone here will know.

I would start again if I were you. Oh, and be less rude this time.

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PepsiMan
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Quote: K!

answer is no HA.



don't read between the lines. no HA(hardware acceleration) whatsoever. duh.

CPU rendering, software rendering, whatever!!! but, no HA.

if you've read my posts then you'll know that I don't use PD13 anymore.

I've upgraded GPU, GTX750, and PD no longer supports HA after nVidia 340.43 driver.

there, so much for upgrading... enough said.

you do get what you've paid for...

and lastly hopefully future PD14 supports hardware encoding and decoding HEVC using GPUs

like GTX 960.

period. 'no bridge too far'

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Quote: Moorish, with the greatest respect, you won't get many people replying to your posts if they all read like this one.

You won't find a more knowledgeable bunch of people than there are on this forum. If something can be done on PD13, someone here will know.

I would start again if I were you. Oh, and be less rude this time.


Dude, let's cut out the BS. Alot of people on here are shills to begin with. 2nd of all, dude in the above post didn't even know about HEVC encoding and also, he admitted he is not familiar with this area; hence, then why post on it???

I simply came on here to know two simple things: A) Am I the only one experiencing problem with native 720p video conversion B) Does PowerDirector 13 even allow hardware-acceleration with HEVC encoding.

Somebody already answered the first question for me; and for the last question, the only reason I even wanted to know that was because of the flim flam Cyberlink did with PowerDVD 14.

And to exemplify the shill nature of this forum, when I brought that up on the PowerDVD 15 forum, a shill came in and immediately made it seem like it was my fault that Cyberlink advertised PowerDVD 14 as having HEVC support (but only as software decoding which is moot because software decoding on H.265 compression is not fast enough to give you a clear picture).

That was sneaky of Cyberlink to fooled people like that out of their hard-earnt money, but as usual, the shills come in and try to "damage control" for them. He was making up lies/excuses and I destroyed all of them.

Hence, why I want to know is Cyberlink pulling the same flim flam with PowerDirector 13 on encoding with hardware-acceleration.

I wasted enough time with you, so I already contacted Cyberlink directly to ask them so I will get an official answer.
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Moorish

Seeing your posting I decided to check here on my recent ATI R9 270, not active for HA (H265) HEVC options.

Works great for XAVC S'll probably use this for temporary files in HD or FullHD.

Works also for H264 - AVC and WMV only to fullhd above not active HA. (for all) AMD-FX 8350 / 8GB DDR3
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Quote: Moorish

Seeing your posting I decided to check here on my recent ATI R9 270, not active for HA (H265) HEVC options.

Works great for XAVC S'll probably use this for temporary files in HD or FullHD.

Works also for H264 - AVC and WMV only to fullhd above not active HA. (for all)


Yea, but a R9 270 doesn't have a H.265 encoder, only a H.264 if I'm correct. The only cards that do have a H.265 encoder are Nvidia's Maxwell Series. But the problem was, as I described in my first post, Nvidia lied by not telling people the H.265 encoding isn't enabled right out the box and will be later in time so when I bought the 980 Classified back in February, I wasn't able to test out does PowerDirector 13 even allows hardware-acceleration for h.265 encoding.

And with the flim-flam Cyberlink pulled with PowerDVD 14 supporting HEVC, but only software-decoding, I want to know if this is the same thing with PowerDirector 13 and encoding.
PepsiMan
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Quote:
Quote: Moorish

Seeing your posting I decided to check here on my recent ATI R9 270, not active for HA (H265) HEVC options.

Works great for XAVC S'll probably use this for temporary files in HD or FullHD.

Works also for H264 - AVC and WMV only to fullhd above not active HA. (for all)


Yea, but a R9 270 doesn't have a H.265 encoder, only a H.264 if I'm correct. The only cards that do have a H.265 encoder are Nvidia's Maxwell Series. But the problem was, as I described in my first post, Nvidia lied by not telling people the H.265 encoding isn't enabled right out the box and will be later in time so when I bought the 980 Classified back in February, I wasn't able to test out does PowerDirector 13 even allows hardware-acceleration for h.265 encoding.

And with the flim-flam Cyberlink pulled with PowerDVD 14 supporting HEVC, but only software-decoding, I want to know if this is the same thing with PowerDirector 13 and encoding.


dude. yes, it will NOT!

1st gen Maxwell like mine, GTX750, isn't supported.

2nd gen GTX970 & GTX980, isn't supported

3rd gen GTX960 (decode & encode HEVC H.265) and all the M series isn't supported.

'PLEASE NOTE: For users of NVIDIA cards who have updated to graphics driver 340.43 or later, the video hardware acceleration feature in PowerDirector is no longer available. To re-enable hardware acceleration, please download and install an earlier driver.'

which my GTX750 and your GTX980 can't use older drivers.

i've spent 100 peanuts and you've spent 550 peanuts to find it out.

well sorry about that; however, not everything is lost.

PD13 (only one so far) still does H.265 and produces excellent videos if the bitrate is kept high as original video bitrate.

produced video is excellent. downside is it takes very-very long time on my comp.



p.s.

I don't work for CyberLink

and to view HEVC contents, I use MPC-HC player and FFDshow codecs.

converting to H.264 I use Handbrake.

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dude. yes, it will NOT!

1st gen Maxwell like mine, GTX750, isn't supported.

2nd gen GTX970 & GTX980, isn't supported

3rd gen GTX960 (decode & encode HEVC H.265) and all the M series isn't supported.

'PLEASE NOTE: For users of NVIDIA cards who have updated to graphics driver 340.43 or later, the video hardware acceleration feature in PowerDirector is no longer available. To re-enable hardware acceleration, please download and install an earlier driver.'

which my GTX750 and your GTX980 can't use older drivers.

i've spent 100 peanuts and you've spent 550 peanuts to find it out.

well sorry about that; however, not everything is lost. PD13 still does H.265 and

produces excellent videos if the bitrate is kept high as original video bitrate,

produced video is excellent.



p.s.

I don't work for CyberLink


What are you talking about???? Are you under the influence when you are posting or something?? Nvidia's Maxwell Series all have dedicated H.265 Encoders, the 960 also have a dedicated H.265 decoder. As I keep saying for the gazillionth time, Nvidia lied to everyone by not allowing customers to use the H.265 straight out the box. I already spoken to Nvidia on this way back when I bought the 980.

But the simple question I have is with Cyberlink, not Nvidia. For the umpteenth time, after Cyberlink's flim-flam with PowerDVD 14, I simply want to know is this the same for PowerDirector 13 and H.265 encoding.



Please learn how to read and comprehend.....this is getting real old.

PepsiMan
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dude. yes, it will NOT!

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Quote: Please learn how to read and comprehend.....this is getting real old.



you're barking up a wrong tree. r u a coondog?

for third time for your own sake. PlaySound and I've said;

'Please learn how to read and comprehend.....this is getting real old.' -your own quote.

'I simply want to know is this the same for PowerDirector 13 and H.265 encoding.' - YES, YES & YES.

there three times, and just for that NO HA for you!!!

FYI.

GTX750 1st gen Maxwell can't do anything but saves electric bill.

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Moorish
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You haven't produced no proof yet.....right now, you didn't even that all the Maxwell Series had dedicated H.265 encoders on them not to mention you didn't even know that you are able to H.265 encoding via software I already did and stated.
PepsiMan
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Quote: all the Maxwell Series had dedicated H.265 encoders on them...


well, I guess I fooled you good by saying I am not an expert in this area...

but know just enough to be dangerous.

Please, read the links. experienced-knowledgeable users had a lengthy discussion on it. hence it's on the wish list for the next PowerDirector14.

we're here to help PD users like you.

I started with PD8 and here I am. I tell it like it is so CyberLink learns from it and come up with patches and so on.

HEVC H.265 hardware support you're looking for isn't even in the books until the aftermath of ongoing(?)

H.265 and VP9 war is settled (my opinion)...

so be patient...

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