Agree with Barry, file imports and plays fine, just have to agree to the conversion PD needs. Intel i7 930, 16GB ram, Radeon HD 5770 1Gb,Ver. 14.12 Win7 64 bit
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Well, I can't even extract it, so I'll leave it to the others who have successfully imported the clip. __________________________________
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Hi Jamie,

I used WinZip to extract the file, could not get WinRAR to extract it though

Robert
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No, winrar couldn't extract.
As several now are on it, I'll leave it at that so
I don't have to install winzip just now.


Just something.
https://www.petitpoisvideo.com

Thanks to all trhose who "had a go"

You know what they say? "When you go to the Doctor the pain disappears!! "

After multi attempts to get WMC to record approx 10 sec as requested anything longer than one minute would not import. I too can import the 9 sec clip.

Strange!?!

Any thoughts please?

Mark

Well, hears a new twist to the problem!

When Dafydd asked me to upload a 10 sec clip the only way I could do it was to record it live. (all the files, to date, that I have wanted to edit but would not import to PD9 were from pre timed recorded programs viz live recordings.

When "timing" a tv program to record it is only possible to record a minimum of one minute. Hence the reason I recorded the requested clip live.

I have since recorded "live" a few more clips from varying programs lasting from a couple of minutes to 1.75 hrs long and successfully imported all of them to PD9 for editing etc.

Sooooo, it would seem to be that the problem lies with files of recorded TV programs that have been pre timed to record.

Any thought any one? Thanks Mark

Yes, it does seem to be the problem. Whenever I have pre - scheduled a recording of a tv program in WMC I cannot import it into PD9. Record any channel for any period of time "live" and I have no problems at all importing and editing them. Appreciate any ones comment as to why this might be so. Thanks Mark

I think you need to use MEDIAINFO (freeware) to determine what differences are in the 2 types of files, then maybe post those 2 data sheets here for general perusal, and perhaps also the manufacturer of your recording device has some answers.

Google MEDIAINFO and get it from a safe source. It would be interesting to some here what, if any, difference in the 2 files side-by-side. HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
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Hi Barry. Thanks for your continued help. Attached 2 files. One from the live recording but medeainfo wouldn't provide more info that his. Tried it several times. 2nd. file is the pre scheduled recording with more infor from medeainfo. Regarding the TV card in my PC I am sorry I do not know make or type but can find out tomorrow. Thanks Mark

You might try examining the file metadata for the differences between scheduled and live recordings. This link might help:
http://www.hack7mc.com/2009/09/manually-editing-wtv-and-dvrms-metadata.html

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Hi Adrian, Thanks for your thoughts. Tried your suggestion but both files appear identical where applicable. Mark Any one any other suggestions before my trial expire in the next two day!?! Thank Mark

WTV conversion in PD8 and 9 is one of the good features. However, there are several cautions:
Every channel has its own bit rate and resolution, and the bit rate can change from program to program - PD8 and 9 both react differently to these changes.

For instance, 720p seems to be the most 'difficult'. I find that after the conversion, the audio gradually goes off sync by about 37 frames per hour of program for both PD8 and 9. The workaround is to split the audio and shorten the audio track by 37 frames per hour.

PD8 does well when sourced by some of the 720p channels in the area, but is very sluggish editing 720 files broadcast by another channel.

PD9 also reacts very differently to different channel sources and recorded resolutions - that is why some folks have such troubles and some report very smooth operation.

There are some WTV to MPG conversion programs on the market if you look, but some (the one I have) down-converts surround audio to stereo. However, I find that PDx works the best with the files converted by the 3rd party program, but it is frustrating to lose surround sound.

PD9, at least on my rig, seems to be 'bit rate limited' during the wtv conversion and I see severe pixelation that occurs for about 5-20 frames after a significant scene change. That pixelation gradualy fades after the 5-20 frames. PD8 conversion of wtv files has no such pixelation. This does not occur each and every time, but often, and it is very annoying. This happens whether using the WTV file, or one converted by W7 to DVRMS format.

PD9 also has visible 'pulsing' of the overall brightnes level after rendering, It looks like the brighness gradually fades and returns in a 5-8 frame cycle every second or so. This is most visible on 720p sources. PD8 shows no sign of such brightness pulsing. Again, this is independent of whether the input file is WTV or DVRMS.

Both PD8 and PD9 result in some visible judder when the scene smoothly pans. I see this on 1080 as well as 720, but it is more visible on 720p sources. Other editing programs I have tried show no such judder after edit and render, using the identical input file.

As you can tell, I have been back and forth with PD8 and 9, having purchased both. I am still using PD8 awaiting (hopefully) a new patch for PD9.

I have done repeated PDx re-installs, up to the minute video driver updates, and repeated totally clean OS re-installs. The results are very consistent.

Hopefully this helps. I do suggest, if you want to use PD9, to find and get a 3rd party wtv to mpg converter. This will help some, but not all, of the problems with PD8/9 and WTV sources. Perhaps you can find one that preserves the surround format as well.

For information, the output format us usually mpg with at least the bit rate of the recorded channel with the same resolution of the source video - usually 12 to 20Mb/s or the default bit rate setting. I have also tried AVCHD output, using the same resolution as the source and either default or custom bit rates in the 10-20Mb/s range.

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Ken, thanks for that detailed report of your obvious indepth knowledge of PD8/9. I look for a wtv converter and see how it goes.My sincere thanks to all who have watch this, commented and have give helpful insights. As I have said earlier, it only seems to happen when I set up WMC to recored viz "live recording." Very many thanks to you all Mark

have you tried Bigasoft WTV Converter?
It can easily convert SD or HD WTV video files to various video formats with smaller file size and high quality:
• Convert WTV to AVI or WTV to WMV to playback on Windows Media Player, Xbox 360, Microsoft Zune, Pocket PC, Dell Axim, HP iPaq, etc
• Convert WTV to MP4 (MPEG-4) to playback on iPod, iPhone, Android Phone, Archos AV500, BlackBerry, Archos AV700, Archos Gmini402, iRiver PMP-100, Creative Zen, Vision, Zune and so on
• Convert WTV to MPG (MPEG-1) to import to PowerPoint presentation for Windows or Mac
• Convert WTV to MOV to import to QuickTime, iTunes, iMovie, Final Cut Pro and more
• Convert WTV to MKV to playback HD on WDTV Media Player
• Convert WTV to 3GPP to playback on Nokia and other mobile phone
• Convert WTV to WebM, MPEG-2, DivX, Xvid , 3GP, FLV, F4V, ASF, H.264, RM, VP8, MOD, TOD, MTS, TS, 720p, 1080p, HD videos and more
Detailed info at http://www.bigasoft.com/wtv-converter.html
http://www.bigasoft.com/articles/how-to-convert-wtv-to-avi-mp4-mkv-wmv-mpg.html

Hi Tom and thanks for your suggestion. I'll give it a try. Many thanks Mark

my pleasure, hope it helps, first try the free trial version to have a free try

thanks for sharing this info, it helps me a lot