problem importing recorded wtv files into PD9. "no rich video information" etc

26lacey60

Newbie Joined: Jul 23, 2010 10:32 Messages: 26 Offline

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May 05, 2011 17:25

I am wanting to purchase PD9 build 0.0.2701 and was working successfully with the trial version, importing recorded tv programs that I had successfully recorded on my PC (same machine as I have loaded PD9) editing them & burning them to DVD's.

Now for no reason, that I can think of for I am doing exactly the same, when I go to import further recorded tv programs files into PD9 I get the message:-

"selected file contains no rich video information to display scene information. Do you want to generate it now. It may take a few minutes to detect the scenes of the video."

You click OPEN, which is the only option available and then a message comes up informing you are about to convert the file.

Click o.k. and the:-

WTV Convert Dialog Box appears and tells you that:-
"the file contains multiple video / audio streams so PD9 cannot convert to MPEG2."

All the files that I have recorded have been about 1 hr + long and all successful up until now.

Any help greatly appreciated. Many thanks Mark Lacey. Im using win7 64bit, 6gig ram

Mark


Filename	Message TWO.JPG	Download
Description	WTV Convert Message
Filesize	54 Kbytes
Downloaded:	392 time(s)


Filename	Message ONE.JPG	Download
Description	No rich video message
Filesize	83 Kbytes
Downloaded:	385 time(s)

James Dotson

Senior Contributor Location: Tennessee Joined: Aug 24, 2009 20:40 Messages: 3066 Offline

May 06, 2011 00:35

Can you attach a short clip, about 10 seconds would do. __________________________________
CORNBLOSSOM

26lacey60

Newbie Joined: Jul 23, 2010 10:32 Messages: 26 Offline

May 06, 2011 06:22

Hi Jaime-esque, thanks for responding. I literally cannot import the file at all into the Libaray section of PD9 so could you advise as to how I can obtain and attach a 10 sec clip please? Appreciate your help. Mark

BarryTheCrab

Senior Contributor Location: USA Joined: Nov 06, 2008 22:18 Messages: 6240 Offline

May 06, 2011 07:30

Jaime,
perhaps you have a WTV.
I found one in my computer, it's a sample.
C:\Users\Public\Recorded TV\Sample Media. HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
Nvidia GTX 960(4GB)/16GB DDR3/
Canon Vixia HV30/HF-M40/HF-M41/HF-G20/Olympus E-PL5.
Tape capture using 6 VCR, TBC-1000, Elite BVP4+, Sony D8 camcorder with TBC.
https://www.facebook.com/BarryAFTT

26lacey60

Newbie Joined: Jul 23, 2010 10:32 Messages: 26 Offline

May 06, 2011 10:58

Hi Jaime, Thanks for the info which I have followed through on but that folder is empty! Seems I dooooooomed!!

ynotfish

Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Offline

May 06, 2011 11:22

Mark -

I imported the .wtv file Barry mentioned... in C:\Users\Public\Recorded TV\Sample Media

At first, I got this...

Then I got the alert you received - clicked "Yes" - & it imported fine.

I've attached it for you to test on your end.

Cheers - Tony

Filename	win7_scenic-demoshort_raw.wtv	Download
Description
Filesize	9472 Kbytes
Downloaded:	514 time(s)

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BarryTheCrab

Senior Contributor Location: USA Joined: Nov 06, 2008 22:18 Messages: 6240 Offline

May 06, 2011 11:50

It converts it to an MPEG2 transport stream, rather than your run-of-the-mill MPEG2. Should not be a problem. HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
Nvidia GTX 960(4GB)/16GB DDR3/
Canon Vixia HV30/HF-M40/HF-M41/HF-G20/Olympus E-PL5.
Tape capture using 6 VCR, TBC-1000, Elite BVP4+, Sony D8 camcorder with TBC.
https://www.facebook.com/BarryAFTT

26lacey60

Newbie Joined: Jul 23, 2010 10:32 Messages: 26 Offline

May 06, 2011 12:12

Hi Tony, Many thanks for your help.

Downloaded the file and it worked like a charm!

Wondering why then those files I recorded via WMC on win7 from the TV Cable connection to my PC won't convert and appear in the Library of PD9?

Any further thought & suggestions welcomed. Many thanks Mark

26lacey60

Newbie Joined: Jul 23, 2010 10:32 Messages: 26 Offline

May 06, 2011 12:15

Hi Barry, Yes, I found out that the hard way by trying to convert the wtv file to MPEG2. Also PD9, when it works, does it so quickly. Many Thanks Mark

James Dotson

Senior Contributor Location: Tennessee Joined: Aug 24, 2009 20:40 Messages: 3066 Offline

May 06, 2011 13:11

Thanks Barry. I don't seem to have that folder at all. Must be a Windows 7 thing. __________________________________
CORNBLOSSOM

BarryTheCrab

Senior Contributor Location: USA Joined: Nov 06, 2008 22:18 Messages: 6240 Offline

May 06, 2011 13:58

Either Windows 7, or maybe because I have a TV tuner in my laptop. Probably the latter.
I actually have it copied to my sample folder, along with our old friends, the "aquarium" clip. HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
Nvidia GTX 960(4GB)/16GB DDR3/
Canon Vixia HV30/HF-M40/HF-M41/HF-G20/Olympus E-PL5.
Tape capture using 6 VCR, TBC-1000, Elite BVP4+, Sony D8 camcorder with TBC.
https://www.facebook.com/BarryAFTT

1Nina

Senior Contributor Location: Norway, 50km southwest of Oslo Joined: Oct 08, 2008 04:12 Messages: 1070 Offline

May 06, 2011 15:10

This is new terretory for me, got me interested in what you in fact were
talking about. The file is on my computer.
Googled, and found this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YxmYshPsP0

Now I have to find out if my TV rig has a way for me to capture.....

Just something.
https://www.petitpoisvideo.com

26lacey60

Newbie Joined: Jul 23, 2010 10:32 Messages: 26 Offline

May 06, 2011 15:28

Hi Nina,

Many thanks for that. I had seen it and am bugged that that is the route I might have to take. I like the program and it is the only one, apparently, that will take wtv files directly and convert them effortlessly straight into your Libaray. I am sure by converting this and that way you must loose some quality. Thanks Mark

ynotfish

Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Offline

May 06, 2011 15:47

Not that I've ever recorded TV on my PC, but apparently PD has been importing wtv files since (at least) PD7.

Mark - the question remains. What has changed on your PC that has stopped PD importing your recorded files when you've been able to do the same thing previously?

Cheers - Tony
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26lacey60

Newbie Joined: Jul 23, 2010 10:32 Messages: 26 Offline

May 06, 2011 15:55

Hi Tony,

Thanks for your continued interest. I sure wish I knew! When I first downloaded PD9 I was having good success as previously described. Doing exactly and using exactly the same settings to record tv via WMC and then trying to import them, again as described previously, I have been getting the mentioned messages. F.Y.I. I have been in touch with C.L.'s Tech Desk but got the run around. I kept receiving the same solution which was to follow through onscreen messages which were not error messages. I never said that they were. I advised them 3 times that in doing as they advise it did not convert or import the wtv file. Their reply was another repeat. I am at a loss as to what to do and have only 2 weeks to purchase and I would really like to but not if I get an intermittent inability to import wtv files. Appreciate your help Tony Thanks Mark

vn800rider

Senior Contributor Location: Darwen, UK Joined: May 15, 2008 04:32 Messages: 1949 Offline

May 06, 2011 16:24

Using the sample landscapes.wtv file I got the same messages, and the first time I selected convert I got a message saying my system did not support .wtv conversion.

2nd time - I first played the file in the conversion window preview player, it played OK and then I could convert and use it in PD.

Now does it each time.

An alternative is to select the .wtv file in windows explorer> right click > convert to .dvr-ms format. This uses the WTVconverter.exe found at C:\Windows\ehome\WTVconverter.exe.

Usage parameters can be found here :
http://www.kaashoek.com/comskip/viewtopic.php?p=3993&sid=04d1eda477c455571a4559e72f124d07#p3993

Unfortunately I haven't any other .wtv files to play with so.....

Cheers
Adrian

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26lacey60

Newbie Joined: Jul 23, 2010 10:32 Messages: 26 Offline

May 06, 2011 16:29

Hi Adrian,
Thanks for your thoughts
I tried converting wtv files to dvr-ms and importing them that way. system came back thing I was xp and wanted me to download a service pack applicable to xp. Mark

ynotfish

Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Offline

May 06, 2011 16:37

Mark -

According to this http://www.mediacenterblog.net/tips-tricks/how-to-easily-convert-wtv-files-to-dvrms-files-with-windows-7 - you can convert unprotected wtv files (in Win7) to the older format. Oddly, I don't have that right click option on my Win7.

CyberLink's MediaShow Espresso will also import these files for conversion...

Cheers - Tony

Edit - What Adrian said! Geez, I'm slow this morning!

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vn800rider

Senior Contributor Location: Darwen, UK Joined: May 15, 2008 04:32 Messages: 1949 Offline

May 06, 2011 16:39

If you are running some versions of ATi graphics, you might be able to use the ATi converter in Catalyst Control Centre to convert to several formats. I don't believe WTVconverter is available for XP.

Cheers
Adrian Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated. (see below)
Confucius
AMD Phenom IIX6 1055T, win10, 5 internal drives, 7 usb drives, struggling power supply.

1Nina

Senior Contributor Location: Norway, 50km southwest of Oslo Joined: Oct 08, 2008 04:12 Messages: 1070 Offline

May 06, 2011 16:43

Ok - since Adrian tried it on his computer, and I hadn't by my first post,
I had to try. Open PD9, go right to import the file, asked if convert- "yes" - "ok" -
and no problems occured. Did it again, no problems - played fine in timeline.

Nina
Just something.
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