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NicolasNY
Senior Contributor Location: Caracas Joined: Sep 28, 2008 17:49 Messages: 805 Offline
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Whooo .. Rider,

You have me ahead on the curve. That's what I thought and if at the end the project, I will make a Visual Basic script to change the entry time of each subtitle SRT file imported.

I see that we all agree and we know what the Bugs of PD and for that we are all here, to bring some ideas for the future.

Course, would be simpler if CL integrated into the program. Of course, there are many things you can create a script to modify various parameters of PD projects, since the file. PDS is nothing more than a file. XML

Cheers
NicolasNY
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Quote: But if you want a final nice release, use MPEG2 if you add fast actions PIP’s or transitions. Doesn’t matter the time it will spend to render.

Its not always true...
Some times rendering in MPEG2 is more faster than any AVCHD, becouse the SVRT of PD will speend more time in try to figured out.......
NicolasNY
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Quote: However, each subproject .srt will start at time 0 so timings would have to be manually edited, or use search and replace etc etc which becomes hard work. .. Alternatively, insert a spacer (or move the project start) to "artificially" set the sub-project to the "correct" time (equal to it's start position in the main project), enter the subtitles, save the .srt for the sub-project, ready for incorporating into the "main" full project .srt


Its not so simple just to adjust the .SRT file SMPTE timecode. You need to convert Drop-Frame (HH:MM:SS:FF) to (HH:MM:SS,milisecs). The problem is that by SMPTE standards, there must be a "jump" of counting every minute, except for the tenths of minutes and full hours, so that give you a litle work. That is why im working right know in VBA program to joing together all sub-projects .SRT files
CubbyHouseFilms
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Hi

Can you post a 'sample' of your movie on Youtube? Happing editing

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JL_JL [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Location: Arizona, USA Joined: Oct 01, 2006 20:01 Messages: 6091 Offline
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Quote: You need to convert Drop-Frame (HH:MM:SS:FF) to (HH:MM:SS,milisecs)
Does it help if you select "No" to the drop frame timecode in the preferences > general tab so you edit in real time?

Jeff
NicolasNY
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Quote: Does it help if you select "No" to the drop frame timecode in the preferences > general tab so you edit in real time?Jeff


No, it doesnt make any difference in exporting the .SRT file (its the same result with "YES" to drop-frame or "NO" in option. The .SRT result always the same. Its a STMPE standard.
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I guess I maybe miss read your post. I realize the SRT is always in real timecode. I thought part of your issue, other than the offset, was also the conversion from drop frame timecode to real timecode in the SRT. I realize the preference setting does not change the SRT file, but it should change the time line time to realtime code so you no longer have the drop frame code conversion.

Jeff

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NicolasNY
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Yes your right. I just test it in some cases where the timecode was the same for drop or no drop. After the first 10 seconds or after the first 60 minutes, you can may notice the difference in the SRT file. ..

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By the way: DROP or NO-DROP ? I always use DROP as the PD default. In both cases, must make the conversion, not just milliseconds to mind involves moving frames, but also some decimal corrections on files. SRT, so my SRT merge program it’s going to be for both cases Non-Drop, Drop and also for NTSC or PAL.

Cheers

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NicolasNY
Senior Contributor Location: Caracas Joined: Sep 28, 2008 17:49 Messages: 805 Offline
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Dear Friends,

Complete the first version of the utility to merge different subtitle files (SRT). Version 1.0.00 makes the bulk of adjusting the start times of each file and creates a new subtitle SRT file to be imported into Power Director.

SrtMerge is published on the following link PD9 forum:
http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/0/15814.page

Sincerely,
Nicolas
deklerkt [Avatar]
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There is a very handy open source subtitle tool called Jubler (google for it) that amongst its many features has Tools > Synchronize to sync subtitles to a movie but also has Tools > Shift time where all selected titles are moved by an offset time.
This way you might have multiple film entries (each say 30 minutes duration) with subtitles all starting at 0:00 . The first you keep that way, the second you start at the offset of the end of part 1 + 0:30:00, the second at 1:00:00, the third on 1:30:00 etc. Then with the same Jubler or Notepad you can append all files together into a single subtitle file that has all subtitle parts neatly synced.
NicolasNY
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Quote: There is a very handy open source subtitle tool called Jubler

Thanks DeklerKt for the tip. I think that my program intents do to the same job that Jubler. For now, SrtMerge just shift and adjust the timecodes. In the future may be a complete editor. Have you tried to use Jubler whit SRT files exported by PD?. PD use UCS-2LE and UTF-16LE Unicode format and not simple text.

I have fun programming it and have learned a lot much more about SRT files and Unicode text files.

Another question for the TOPIC:

My project has different footages clips (1920x1080i and 1440x1080i). I’m planning to create the final main project in 1920x1080i. I understand that 1440 use a rectangular pixels aspect ratio as 1920 use square one (1440x1080 is PAR 1.3333 and 1920x1080 is PAR 1.000, so 1440x1080 PAR 1.333 = 1920x1080 PAR 1.000) and its displayed as 16:9 stretching the actual pixels to make the proper resolution.

Does anybody have notice any “visible” differences in up scaling from 1440x1080 to 1920x1080?

Nicolas
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Quote: Have you tried to use Jubler whit SRT files exported by PD?. PD use UCS-2LE and UTF-16LE Unicode format and not simple text.


UTF-16LE it understands, UCS-2LE not. So the result is that importing srt from Jubler to PD9 works fine, but output from PD9 results in rubbish (see attachment).

In my experiments I seem to encounter more problems with other tools not understanding what PD outputs. E.g. AVCHD m2ts output is not understood by tsmuxer. I need to wrap it into a mkv file first (mkvtoolnix) before it does. With that many standards I don't know who bends the rules of the standards, but it is annoying. (All this because disc production doesn't allow smart fit to DVD9)
[Thumb - PD srt output into Jubler.jpg]
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PD srt output into Jubler.jpg
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srt from Jubler into PD and exported by PD read into Jubler
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160 Kbytes
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216 time(s)
NicolasNY
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Well i ask CL TR the same questions.

By the way...have you try my program?.

I have specially designed to be 100% compatible with Power Director exported SRT file
deklerkt [Avatar]
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Quote: By the way...have you try my program?.


No I haven't because for my test runs I already had German, Dutch and English audio and subtitles (synced with Jubler) created for the entire program using another tool for DVD output. So the test run for PD is to attempt to do the same with PD for AVCHD output.

Good to know that the utility is consistent with PD input/output - I would not have expected anything else ;

I'm in my final days of the trial period but cannot tryout AVCHD disc output using multiple subtitles and audiostreams (to see if that works allowing selection of either one) as "Disc" doesn't work (complaining about no space left although there is plenty - a known/reported issue - and refusing Harddrive output on BluRay or AVCHD if it doesn't fit DVD9) and "produce" mixes all into a single stream which won't do of course.
All the editing/adjusting features of PD9 are great sofar, but in the end useless if one cannot output stuff properly and without hassle.
NicolasNY
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You may also try my program....

Quote: ..I'm in my final days of the trial period
I hope that being in your last days of trial, which has seen convince you to buy PD9. It is an excellent program. I recommend it.

Quote: Another question for the TOPIC:
My project has different footages clips (1920x1080i and 1440x1080i). I’m planning to create the final main project in 1920x1080i. I understand that 1440 use a rectangular pixels aspect ratio as 1920 use square one (1440x1080 is PAR 1.3333 and 1920x1080 is PAR 1.000, so 1440x1080 PAR 1.333 = 1920x1080 PAR 1.000) and its displayed as 16:9 stretching the actual pixels to make the proper resolution.

Does anybody have notice any “visible” differences in up scaling from 1440x1080 to 1920x1080?


Any ideas?

deklerkt [Avatar]
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I agree - PD9 is far more stable than PD8 which I tried and rejected. And it does most of what I need/want.
But the output features for disc / folders on hard drive leave lots to be desired. But I can work around part of it (with lots of extra steps and time) until Cyberlink gets this sorted out.
NicolasNY
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I just finish all my subprojects and ready to create the MASTER PROJECT, but still “Need some suggestions to chose the ‘profile’ to PRODUCE the subprojects video clips” to be imported in the master project.

All my original footage are AVCHD 1440x1080i 15.5Mbs. I have create a topic called “BD CREATE DISC PROFILES NAMES and SVRT questions” at http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/15826.page , that can give me some tips, but haven’t receive any satisfactory answer yet. Please, take a look on that topic. MPEG-2 seems to be the best option, but PD9’s SVRT does not recognize its own produced MPEG-2 files, just AVCHD profiles.

I want the best quality on my final blu-ray disc, so if MPEG-2 it’s the best chose, I don’t care if SVRT doesn’t work. I can wait the time that it’s necessary to render it. But, since my original footage is AVCHD 1440x1080i 15.5Mbs, if you recommend me to use AVCHD to produce them, I will do it.

I think that at the time I finish this movie, my next project will be user’s manual for creating large projects, but for now, my little video experience tells me the following:

a) Original footage = 1440x1080i at 15.5Mbps, Dolby 5.1
b) Subprojects especial effects: Lot of slow and fast actions, complicated PIP’s and effects.

If my subprojects only contend the original footage clips (without transitions, PIP’s and effects), I will chose PD’s AVCHD 1440x1080 15.5mbs profile to produce them. But since I have the effects, transitions and whatever more things in my subprojects, my common sense tells me that I have to use a “biger” frame rate, so I will chose PD’s AVCHD 1440x1080 (24Mbs).

But in order to not lose quality, do I need to produce them in MPEG-2?

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NicolasNY
Senior Contributor Location: Caracas Joined: Sep 28, 2008 17:49 Messages: 805 Offline
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Ok, I have burn a lot of BD’s and ask a lot of questions, but I cannot finish the BD creation guide until this questions doesn’t have being solved:

BD CREATE DISC PROFILES NAMES and SVRT questions
http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/15826.page

PD9 Blu-Ray .mt2s problems with Panasonic BD Players & Viera TV's - Need Suggestions
http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/15899.page

Blu-Ray project backup create in normal DVD, playing as 4:3 in TV
http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/15919.page

Burn CREATE FOLDER dilemma
http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/15/11592.page

Please, let’s do something for the forum (and for me, you include Fred, that some time I see a very nice post guide from you) . Let’s make this consumer program a PRO program.


Edited in 6 times just to take the attention. Need help from all groups!

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NicolasNY
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I just need to know how to burn a BD in a high bit rate in progessive: 1920x1080 P at 24mbps in AVC format to be compatible with my home equipment. If not, I just use my computer to show the movie.
NicolasNY
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The forum now its: SOLVE YOUR SELF
CubbyHouseFilms
Senior Contributor Location: Melbourne, Australia Joined: Jul 14, 2009 04:23 Messages: 2208 Offline
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Hi

I produce my HD video files using the MPEG2 BD 1920x1080 profile.

I then transfer this file to a memory stick and upload it to my blu-ray player/recorder.

The original footage is archived on a blu ray disk and on an external hard drive.

We all have different ways of saving and playing our projects. Trial and error is the best way to learn. Happing editing

Best Regards

Neil
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PD10 Ultra v2023. Computer: HP Pavilion dv7, Intel, i7 2630 2.00 GHz, 8GB RAM, ATI Mob. Radeon HD 6770 2GB, Windows 7 Pre. 64
PD12 Ultra v2930. Computer: HP Pavilion dv7, Intel, i7 2630 2.00 GHz, 8GB RAM, ATI Mob. Radeon HD 6770 2GB, Windows 7 Pre. 64
PD13 Ultim v3516. Computer: HP Pavilion dv7, Intel, i7 2630 2.00 GHz, 8GB RAM, ATI Mob. Radeon HD 6770 2GB, Windows 7 Pre. 64
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