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Lee
Newbie Location: San Francisco Bay Area Joined: Jul 22, 2010 18:19 Messages: 7 Offline
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Greetings,

I am having a problem where after say, splitting the video track and removing a segment, i'll then go to play the movie and all i get is audio, and no video, just a black screen in the preview panel. So far i have been working around it by double clicking on the video track and then clicking cancel on the screen that pops up. Then i'm able to play, and see the video.

Any ideas? I couldn't find anything in the preferences, nor did searching the forum return an answer.

Thanks,

Lee
Dafydd B [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Joined: Aug 26, 2006 08:20 Messages: 11973 Offline
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Lee,
Crucial information is a sample file of the video and the source (camera).

I've come across this before with a Jazz hdv178

You can attach a 5 second video.

Dafydd
Lee
Newbie Location: San Francisco Bay Area Joined: Jul 22, 2010 18:19 Messages: 7 Offline
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Thanks for the reply.

Well the camera is a Canon VIXIA HF R11 that records in .mts format, so i don't know if that has anything to do with it.

This is all on my pc at work.

I use PD at home and never have an issue with it.

I've tried messing about with various settings in PD with no luck. Maybe i'll try using the camera on my pc at home at see what happens.
Dafydd B [Avatar]
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Hi Lee,
1. Really could do with a sample from that camera.
2. I'd like to see the popup which you deleted with your workaround.
3. I'd like you to attach a diagnostic file - PART B.
4. Supply a screenshot see PART F and E below in the guides.

If you make a sample and the information available, the senior editors here have much more to go on and get an answer for you.

I don't have a sample from an R11 - you give info and sample, we test, we resolve, you smile.

Dafydd

Guide information:
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You can not pinpoint the issue BUT you can give more detail of content and provide a visual image as well as a diagnostic of your set up. Please note that 3 (x100kb) images/files can be attached to your reply.

http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/7958.page
Subject: PowerDirector - information we request and tasks to carry out.
PART A - name it
PART B - provide it
PART F - use them
PART E - an alternative
PART D - presentation is important

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RonNery [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Dec 29, 2008 11:09 Messages: 6 Offline
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I think this is my issue. The source 1080i mpg files are perfectly fine and I was able to split, title, etc. just fine. At some later point, after reopening the project, I realized that video for some of those clips is black. Audio is fine and titling intact, but no video. Original video that was used in project can still be played fine. I used two source videos for this project and it appears the clips for the first video are still able to be previewed. Also, I don't think it's permanent, since I was able to reopen the project and it's fine. The only thing I do, after opening the project, is compress the timeline.

I understand that the workaround here is just to reopen the project, but it keeps happening and it's annoying. I'm on an i7 860 box running 64-bit Windows 7, with tons of HD space and 8 GB of memory, so resources shouldn't be a factor. Ideas?

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Dafydd B [Avatar]
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Answer 1. http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/12519.page#58444

Answer 2. http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/12519.page#58487

Nothing will be done without a sample file in either case. It doesn't matter what you're experiencing or viewing. Unless you provide the information requested then no video editors can assist you.

Dafydd
Lee
Newbie Location: San Francisco Bay Area Joined: Jul 22, 2010 18:19 Messages: 7 Offline
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Quote: Hi Lee,
1. Really could do with a sample from that camera.


Assuming you mean video, they can be seen at www.youtube.com/kessiltube

Quote: 2. I'd like to see the pop-up which you deleted with your workaround.


So this is the sequence, occasionally, for it seems no particular reason, the preview screen goes black when attempting to play the clip...



If i double click on the clip, i get...



I then click "cancel" on that pop up screen and the preview screen comes back to life.



Quote:
3. I'd like you to attach a diagnostic file - PART B.
4. Supply a screen-shot see PART F and E below in the guides.

If you make a sample and the information available, the senior editors here have much more to go on and get an answer for you.

I don't have a sample from an R11 - you give info and sample, we test, we resolve, you smile.

Dafydd

Guide information:
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You can not pinpoint the issue BUT you can give more detail of content and provide a visual image as well as a diagnostic of your set up. Please note that 3 (x100kb) images/files can be attached to your reply.

http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/7958.page
Subject: PowerDirector - information we request and tasks to carry out.
PART A - name it
PART B - provide it
PART F - use them
PART E - an alternative
PART D - presentation is important

********************************


How do i get the "diagnostic file" of which you speak?
Steve [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Aug 03, 2010 04:37 Messages: 5 Offline
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I am having the same or a similar problem. I dont think it is related to the image file - sometimes it plays correctly, other times the same clip plays a black screen with audio only. The problem occurs for me only when in edit mode - after rendering the clips into a final movie there is no issue - intuitively it doesnt seem as if the problem is with the format of the clip.

My workaround is as follows - you can view a clip in 3 ways while editing - embedded in the top right of the edit panel, in a preview window and in a full screen preview. If a clip is showing black, I just flick from full scrren to windowed or vice versa and I usually get it back.I have noticed the problem more often when playing back several clips in movie mode - each time it flows from one clip to the next, the video turns black, and I use the above workaround. It is just annoying, and obviously something is not right.

I use m2Ts files from a Sony Cx116 recorded in HD FH mode. I edit using PD 8.00.1930 running on a Lenovo T400 laptop.
If I was to hazard a guess, I would say that the laptop struggles in terms of cylces and/or memory. Still doesnt make it right though - a black screen !
Dafydd B [Avatar]
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LJSearles:
1. I was after a sample of the video you are using - not a youtube posted video. RE: Canon VIXIA HF R11 about 5 to 10 seconds would be good and can be attached to your post here for me to download. Samples from cameras are essential to have to make sure PD works with all video sources.
2. From the images you have posted I see you have Shadow Edit files being generated.
a) i could do with knowing what your PC is.
b) Please supply a diagnostic file
http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/7979.page#34439
PART B
3. I note in your attached image you have not allowed PD to generate the shadow edit file (Yellow Icon showing) before you atarted editing. You should have.

Shadow edit files should be generated before starting to edit as interference with the file will prevent the task being completed. The audio section is generated separately as a "temp text" file and this is the reason you can hear the audio.

Solutions: Depending upon the capability of your computer you can shut down shadow file creation and edit without the use of them. If you have a low end PC this isn't feasible. I've asked for a diagnostic to assess your PC. Shutting off shadow files is easy see: http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/9621.page#41702 I don't use shadow Files - I know the limitations of my PC. Of course you should upgrade your PC if you intend editing HD files.

Steve,
You need to upgrade your version of PD with the latest patch. 1930 build has issues. http://www.cyberlink.com/downloads/support/powerdirector/patches_en_US.html
FYI Anonymous posts can not be contacted by PM.

Dafydd
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Steve [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Aug 03, 2010 04:37 Messages: 5 Offline
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Thank you for the tips - in my case I will update build - and I am proud to step out from cloak of anonymity - thanks for advice on that too.

cheers
Lee
Newbie Location: San Francisco Bay Area Joined: Jul 22, 2010 18:19 Messages: 7 Offline
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Quote: LJSearles:
1. I was after a sample of the video you are using - not a youtube posted video. RE: Canon VIXIA HF R11 about 5 to 10 seconds would be good and can be attached to your post here for me to download. Samples from cameras are essential to have to make sure PD works with all video sources.



Attached.


2. From the images you have posted I see you have Shadow Edit files being generated.
a) i could do with knowing what your PC is.







Attached


PART B
3. I note in your attached image you have not allowed PD to generate the shadow edit file (Yellow Icon showing) before you atarted editing. You should have.

Shadow edit files should be generated before starting to edit as interference with the file will prevent the task being completed. The audio section is generated separately as a "temp text" file and this is the reason you can hear the audio.

Solutions: Depending upon the capability of your computer you can shut down shadow file creation and edit without the use of them. If you have a low end PC this isn't feasible. I've asked for a diagnostic to assess your PC. Shutting off shadow files is easy see: http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/9621.page#41702 I don't use shadow Files - I know the limitations of my PC. Of course you should upgrade your PC if you intend editing HD files.


Done

Dafydd
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Dafydd B [Avatar]
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I thought the issue is with an *.MTS HD file and not with an mpeg?

What format does your camera capture? That's the file I require.

Thanks

Dafydd
Lee
Newbie Location: San Francisco Bay Area Joined: Jul 22, 2010 18:19 Messages: 7 Offline
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I hope this works....
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donbroadband
Member Location: Caldy, Wirral UK Joined: Aug 06, 2009 06:04 Messages: 119 Offline
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Hi Lee,
I downloaded your 00018.mts file and played it with no problem with PD8 on my system. because I am set up to process PAL standard and your file was NTSC PD8 automatically converted it - it played like a treat. Looking at your DXdiag file I see your machine has onboard Intel G45/43 graphics. Your driver is out of date - 6.14.0010.4977. The latest drive on the INTEL site is 6.14.0010.5284. The Intel site talks about problems with high res on the older drivers. I should update the drivers.

Hope this helps,

Don Gigabyte I7/4940 O/C 4.3, Noctua Cooler 10GB DDR3, 4 x 1TB, 1TB SSD, Geoforce GTX660 TI 8500W PSU, Windows 10 Pro 64bit.
mcluna21 [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Aug 04, 2010 18:30 Messages: 4 Offline
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Good Day Donald and Dafydd,

I also am having many problems w/blank preview screens, preview screen showing wrong video segment then what is selected on the timeline, as well as audio missing at times. I just downloaded PD8 Deluxe 8.00.3022 last week and my computer i just got 2 months ago. attached is my Dxdiag, and a screen capture of the blank preview, and screen capture showing wrong preview then what is selected on the timeline. My camera is a So`ny DCR DVD610 and records in .VOB.

Thanks for your help,
Mike
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donbroadband
Member Location: Caldy, Wirral UK Joined: Aug 06, 2009 06:04 Messages: 119 Offline
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Hi Mike,
Not sure I can help too much on this - I have very little first hand experience of the onboard graphics, however checking on Intels site I note that you do not appear to have the latest driver set for the Mobile 4 chipset. Have you ched on the DELL site for driver update ( I did and there seem to be some graphics driver updates). Yours is a fairly modest system and might be struggling with PD8 - it is a bit resouce hungry. If you resrta the playback from the time line does it clear up and also if you look in the Task Manger under processes (click on CPU) is there anything using lots of CPU resource?

And lastly when you updated PD8 did you restart the system after the update was completed?

Don Gigabyte I7/4940 O/C 4.3, Noctua Cooler 10GB DDR3, 4 x 1TB, 1TB SSD, Geoforce GTX660 TI 8500W PSU, Windows 10 Pro 64bit.
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Newbie Joined: Aug 04, 2010 18:30 Messages: 4 Offline
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Thanks Don,

I kinda figured since my system is fairly new that I didn't need any updated drivers yet but I will check into that. I agree with you that my system is on the low end and that might be the main reason. I just downloaded PD8 last week so I haven't done an update on it. My CPU avg's at about 7 and occassionaly will jump to 29 and drop back down.

I'll probably check into getting a larger system.

I appreciate your help,
Mike
donbroadband
Member Location: Caldy, Wirral UK Joined: Aug 06, 2009 06:04 Messages: 119 Offline
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Hi Mike,
If your version is 3022 you already have the latest version of PD8. Regarding driver updates, whilst your system maybe new it could have been sitting in Dells warehouse for a while AND not have the latest drivers on board. My wife has a DELL and I think there is a facility where it will auto update its drivers. If you go on the DELL site and put in your service code Dell will tell you whether you have the current drivers or not.

I have actually used PD8 on my media PC (Dual Core Atom 330) and it will work though it is very very slow.

Good Luck,

Don D Gigabyte I7/4940 O/C 4.3, Noctua Cooler 10GB DDR3, 4 x 1TB, 1TB SSD, Geoforce GTX660 TI 8500W PSU, Windows 10 Pro 64bit.
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Hi Don,

Thanks for the info, I will check into the Dell updates.

I appreciate your help, good luck to you.

Mike
Lee
Newbie Location: San Francisco Bay Area Joined: Jul 22, 2010 18:19 Messages: 7 Offline
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Quote: Hi Lee,
I downloaded your 00018.mts file and played it with no problem with PD8 on my system. because I am set up to process PAL standard and your file was NTSC PD8 automatically converted it - it played like a treat. Looking at your DXdiag file I see your machine has onboard Intel G45/43 graphics. Your driver is out of date - 6.14.0010.4977. The latest drive on the INTEL site is 6.14.0010.5284. The Intel site talks about problems with high res on the older drivers. I should update the drivers.

Hope this helps,

Don


Did you try and edit a clip and switch back and forth between "movie" and "clip" mode? That's when i seemed to have had the problem of the preview screen blacking out.

I'll see if i can get the systems admin to update the drivers, or perhaps put a proper video card in it.
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