File format comparison

Andy - XL

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Jan 23, 2010 14:05

Folks, I finally done it, compared most of the formats in the "Produce" of Power Director 8.0. Here are the foundings.

Source files: 16Mbps AVCHD 1980x1080i .m2t files recorded By Sony HD camera.

A total of 9 clips (without transitions) - output file is 1min 30sec.

I will order formats by bitrate/file size

Format -- Resolution -- Extension -- Bitrate -- File Size

MPEG-2 BD -- 1440x1080 -- .mpg -- 24.83Mbps -- 298MB
MPEG-2 BD -- 1920x1080 -- .mpg -- 24.73Mbps -- 296MB
MPEG-2 HDV -- 1440x1080 -- .mpg -- 24.67Mbps -- 295MB
MPEG-2 HDV -- 1280x720 -- .mpg -- 19.46Mbps -- 234MB
H.264 AVCHD-24Mbps -- 1920x1080 -- .m2t -- 16.78Mbps -- 204MB
H.264 AVCHD -- 1440x1080 -- .m2t -- 16.77Mbps -- 198MB
H.264 AVCHD -- 1920x1080 -- .m2t -- 15.75Mbps -- 192MB
MPEG-4 Mobile phone -- 1280x720 -- .3G2 -- 9.00Mbps -- 106MB
MPEG-2 HQ DVD -- 720x480 -- .mpg -- 7.72Mbps -- 96MB
H.264 AVCHD -- 720x480 -- .m2t -- 6.24Mbps -- 79MB

Conclusion. I would definitely eliminate the following formats from the list. DVD 480p requires no explanation. 720 appeared jerky during the moving sceans.
MPEG-2 HDV -- 1280x720 -- .mpg -- 19.46Mbps -- 234MB
MPEG-4 Mobile phone -- 1280x720 -- .3G2 -- 9.00Mbps -- 106MB
MPEG-2 HQ DVD -- 720x480 -- .mpg -- 7.72Mbps -- 96MB

Below remaining formats appeared exactly the same on my 46" Samsung LCD HDTV. Funny how 1440 vs 1920 rendered higher bitrate and larger file.
If the videos are basically the same i then should go for the smallest file size and choose H.264 AVCHD 1920x1080 for Producing my future projects.

MPEG-2 BD -- 1440x1080 -- .mpg -- 24.83Mbps -- 298MB
MPEG-2 BD -- 1920x1080 -- .mpg -- 24.73Mbps -- 296MB
MPEG-2 HDV -- 1440x1080 -- .mpg -- 24.67Mbps -- 295MB
H.264 AVCHD-24Mbps -- 1920x1080 -- .m2t -- 16.78Mbps -- 204MB
H.264 AVCHD -- 1440x1080 -- .m2t -- 16.77Mbps -- 198MB
H.264 AVCHD -- 1920x1080 -- .m2t -- 15.75Mbps -- 192MB

Hope you enjoyed this post.
Sincerely yours.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at Jan 23. 2010 14:17

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OnTheWeb1

Contributor Location: Michigan USA Joined: Jan 02, 2009 12:58 Messages: 511 Offline

Jan 23, 2010 15:19

This will also be affected by what hardware player you use, too. Some are better than others at things like upscaling.

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CubbyHouseFilms

Senior Contributor Location: Melbourne, Australia Joined: Jul 14, 2009 04:23 Messages: 2208 Offline

Jan 23, 2010 21:24

Hi Guys

I've given up on trying to create the perfect 1920x1080 DVD/BD. (I use a Sony SDRHD 1920x1080 AVCHD and a Canon 500D DSLR).

What I did was I would produce a MPEG2 1920x1080 file and save it to my Western Digital external hard drive.

I then 'plug' this into my WD HD media player and BINGO! Perfect true high defination on my HD plasma. The picture quality is unbelievable, the resolution is perfect, better than the HDTV signal they broadcast in Australia.

Here's the link: http://www.wdc.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=735

PS Biff has suggested this before. And NO I don't work for WD!!
PPS With a wireless USB connected to this and your network you can watch SMWOV on your TV Happing editing

Best Regards

Neil
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Jan 24, 2010 05:54

http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/3522.page#20548

Bif (Bruce). Inexpensive Hardware HD Media Player
http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/4718.page

Neil, FYI I to use the same device... I've been using wmv's but will now revert to .mp4's

Andy,
Steve has raised the hardware implications (and I agree with him) and there are others. The task you carried out is individual to your set up, to the video footage from your camera, your test apparatus, the player base, your selection and probably a number of others. It is not a definitive nor a guide, it is merely what you found on your set up with the footage you have.

I'm NOT going to participate in a discussion on the content here. I have other tasks I'd rather engage in.

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just_for_fun

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Jan 24, 2010 12:20

Andy:
What media did you use to view the results on the 46" lcd, Blue Ray disk, DVD, media player, computer connecter to 46" lcd....? Just For Fun
i7 Core@3.8ghz 6gig mem 3 HDD geForce8400
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Andy - XL

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Jan 25, 2010 09:45

mtrapp,

I copyied Produced AVC H.264 files onto an 8Gb Compact flash card and conected with USB cable to my PlayStation3.

p.s. I agree with you guys. This set-up worked for me, but, it might work for you too, so give it a try and see.

p.s. If mpeg-2 BD 1920x1080 appeared absolutely identical to mpeg-4 AVC h. 264 1920x1080 with an exception of the latter being half the size of mpeg-2, why not use AVC all the time.

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