saving multiple clips in a project to multiple files

hardya99

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Jun 29, 2015 15:53

I have spent a very very long time editing a great number of short mov files into clips (removing bits here and there and at start and end - very tricky), together forming a presentation by my son who has a disability.

I helped him form these together with some other clips into his presentation.

Unfortunately he has had to go away and will not be able to use powerdirector on his system. I have given him all the raw mov files (very many) but the time, effort and exterity required to carefully clip each of these will be inordinate.

I wanted to run a production but rather than to one file, to one file for each clip. I cannot find a way to do this easily. I guess I could drag each clip in turn to another track, turn off the main track and do a full production for each clip in turn, but that is going to be SO laborious and time consuming as there are so many of them.

I had no idea that what they call clips in the project are actually in fact data items that just point to the original media file with a start and end time.

Can any one suggest a way to do this more easily.

optodata

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Jun 29, 2015 16:13

hardya99, it sound like maybe you're looking for the Produce Range feature. You don't need to make any changes to the timeline - just use the scrubber to highlight the clip(s) you want and then click on the Produce Range button just above the timeline.

You'll be taken automatically to the Produce tab, and once you choose the output format and file name, just click on Start and the output will only contain the clip(s) you highlighted.

It's still going to take time to highlight and produce each section, but you'll only need to change the output name when producing each successive clip. PD will remember your output settings for the entire session, and you'll only need to specify it again if you close PD.

UPDATE: Here's a *post* on Produce Range that may help explain how to do it.

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The Shadowman

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Jun 29, 2015 16:30

I read Hardya99s post a little differently. I may be wrong, but what I think he needs is the FILE - BATCH PRODUCE function.

You can use this if you still have the original .PDS files.

Go to FILE - BATCH PRODUCE click on the + sign and load the .PDS files. Then click on the pencil button and change the file format to Quicktime (.mov) and select the resolution you require. Also select output folder at top of Batch Produce screen

Not certain this what you need but maybe

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optodata

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Jun 29, 2015 16:37

Quote: I read Hardya99s post a little differently. I may be wrong, but what I think he needs is the FILE - BATCH PRODUCE function.

That's definitely a good call if each clip has its own project. If all the clips are in a single project, or even in a few separate projects, then Produce Range is probably the way to go.

hardya99 please let us know if either of these ideas will help. If we missed something or if you have any further details, please pass them along!

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hardya99

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Jun 29, 2015 20:03

thanks optdata I think produce range, selecting one clip, producing that, then the next clip and so on is what I need.

However, I cannot see "produce range" button. Is it in the trial version? I am still reviewing the product before purchase (some bugs where pointer moves to end suddenly etc). Perhaps the button is not appearing because I am not hilighting the clip in the right way.

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optodata

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Jun 29, 2015 20:16

I see that I didn't do a great job of describing the selection process, so here's a really quick video to show how it's done.

UPDATE: You'll need to view the video full screen to see the details. You may need to watch it directly on YT, which you can do by clicking *here*

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hardya99

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Jun 30, 2015 02:53

Thanks optdata. I have the hilighting and the button now, but if if hilight several clips, still only one file is produced. I guess the feature I really want does not exist. Is that right?

So I guess I will have to use you method but just hilight on clip at a time. However, I am not sure how to accurately (to the 'exact' start and finish times) hilight just one clip since it is done manually. Any ideas?

I that cannot be done I guess I'm back to what I said in my original post.

Quote: I guess I could drag each clip in turn to another track, turn off the main track and do a full production for each clip in turn, but that is going to be SO laborious and time consuming as there are so many of them.

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optodata

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Jun 30, 2015 03:07

I think it would help to see a screenshot of your timeline. With PD running full screen, press Ctrl+Print Screen and then open Paint (or any other image viewer) and paste the image, then save it and attach it using the blue Attachments button under the text box on the forum.

It sounds like you have all the clips end-to-end on one track and you want to somehow produce all of them separately. Is that what you're trying to do? Is there a reason that your son can't work with one long video with all the clips?

You can have PD automatically create chapters but those will only work if you burn a DVD or Blu-Ray.

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The Shadowman

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Jun 30, 2015 04:11

Are you sure that BATCH PRODUCE would not be suitable for this? Panny TM10, GH2, GH4,

hardya99

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Jun 30, 2015 05:01

Quote: It sounds like you have all the clips end-to-end on one track and you want to somehow produce all of them separately. Is that what you're trying to do?

Yes.

Quote: Is there a reason that your son can't work with one long video with all the clips?

He's wants to / has been told that he has to do the whole thing himself from the begining for a course work. But the course work has nothing to do with assessing video editing skill! *Most of the time consuming and dexterity necessitating work has been in editing out 1 or 2 second bits of junk here and there in each of the very many mov files. Resulting in the very many tidier clips in the project. This is not the only project. I found it easier to do the work in chunks accross 4 or 5 projects.

If I could just give him all those clips as individual files then he could use them in his own editing software (powerdirector not available for mac). He would be sleceting, discarding, ordering and maybe shortening bits (most of the clips are him speaking without a paper), but given his course is not testing him on mouse control (he is dispraxic) he would be pretty much doing the important work himself without the hours of tedious careful clicking I went through (*).

I hope this makes some sense. If I could just find a way to more accurately hilight (for "produce range") just the exact length of a clip, that may help.

Image attached. The image includes in track 2 stuff I intended to move to another project.

....

Probably should raise a second post, but I'm considering buying this software, but I still can't quite get over one bug.

From time to time the time while playing (waiting to find a point for a split) the time line marker jumps to the end. I have tried reducing the monitor window resolution right down but it still happens. This also becomes very time consuming as you have keep on trying over and over until finally it doesn't do it on one play and you can pause at the point you want to split.


Filename	TimeLineExample.jpg	Download
Description	Time Line Example
Filesize	288 Kbytes
Downloaded:	61 time(s)

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hardya99

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Jun 30, 2015 05:36

Even if I click ON a clip then drag the scrubber to the end of the clip expecting the scrubber end point to be slightly inaccurate but the start to be right on the nail, I find that the production file includes a tiny tiny bit from the preceding clip. This is not the case if I click ON a clip a play to monitor.

The Shadowman

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Jun 30, 2015 05:39

From time to time the time while playing (waiting to find a point for a split) the time line marker jumps to the end. I have tried reducing the monitor window resolution right down but it still happens. This also becomes very time consuming as you have keep on trying over and over until finally it doesn't do it on one play and you can pause at the point you want to split.

Can you right click on one of the clips, select "view properties" and tell us what it says about "video" Panny TM10, GH2, GH4,

hardya99

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Jun 30, 2015 05:52

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Description	Video Info
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Downloaded:	51 time(s)

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The Shadowman

Senior Contributor Location: UK Joined: Dec 15, 2014 13:06 Messages: 1831 Offline

Jun 30, 2015 05:52

Even if I click ON a clip then drag the scrubber to the end of the clip expecting the scrubber end point to be slightly inaccurate but the start to be right on the nail, I find that the production file includes a tiny tiny bit from the preceding clip. This is not the case if I click ON a clip a play to monitor.

If you want to split a clip exacltly in the right place don't use the scrubber to mark it. Just use the scrubber to the very nearest point you can get to the split point and the use the "previous frame" or "next frame" button (they are under the clip and movie selector) click one of these slowly until you are exactly in the right place and then "split" Panny TM10, GH2, GH4,

hardya99

Newbie Joined: Jun 29, 2015 15:41 Messages: 7 Offline

Jun 30, 2015 05:55

I think we are at cross purposes, I'm probably not explaining well. I am trying save one clip to a file. I am using product range to do this, so I have to use the scrubber according to optdata.

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The Shadowman

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Jun 30, 2015 08:57

Use the scrubber to get to the approximate start, then the "previous frame" or "next frame" button to get to the exact point of start.

Then, while watching the preview screen, drag the right hand range handle to the exact point of finish.

This should work for you Panny TM10, GH2, GH4,

PlaySound

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Jun 30, 2015 09:19

Quote: I think we are at cross purposes, I'm probably not explaining well. I am trying save one clip to a file. I am using product range to do this, so I have to use the scrubber according to optdata.

You can mark the start and end position, Split or adding a marker (right clik the ruler / Add Timeline Marker)

It should also extends the timeline for accuracy, use the button Next Frame to skip frame by frame.

Note: Using time markers, selecting with yellow sliding slowly over the marker, it stops in the correct position, going right or left.

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The Shadowman

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Jun 30, 2015 12:08

From time to time the time while playing (waiting to find a point for a split) the time line marker jumps to the end. I have tried reducing the monitor window resolution right down but it still happens. This also becomes very time consuming as you have keep on trying over and over until finally it doesn't do it on one play and you can pause at the point you want to split.

Thank you for the video information.

I notice from the timeline snapshot that you posted earlier that you are using shadow files. Are you letting all clips in your library complete, ie have a green flag, rather than a yellow one before starting to edit the clips. Failure to do this can cause manyfold problems.

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