Image stabilization problem!

Kyle 40

Contributor Location: Cumbria Joined: Sep 06, 2013 14:14 Messages: 467 Offline

Solved by

Oct 16, 2014 10:57

You know what it's like, out with your camera, you rush to get the shot you can see developing in front of you. No time to sort out the tripod, so hand held is the way to go! The result is a pleasant enough shot but maybe it's too shaky.
I have at least one slightly shaky video clip I wanted to use, to finish off a sequence. Having just upgraded to PD13, I thought I'd try out the new and enhanced image stabilization in the Fix / Enhance tools.
It is not very good.

In fact it's as bad as in PD12

I've tried the different settings from ...
1 Stabilizer , from #1 through to #50
2 Stabilizer + Fix Rotational Camera Shake (this creates even more rotational shake, making the video clip look very jittery!)
3 Use enhance stabilizer

After all the hype, I was expecting this tool to produce something a bit more stable but, if anything, it's made the video clip appear worse

Maybe I'm using it incorrectly ( I'm sure I'm not ) but you guys in the forum have helped me before so here I am, cap in hand, asking if anyone can offer some help in this matter?

I'm on the verge of uninstalling PD13, to reinstall it but thought I'd make a cup of coffee to simmer down first

Has anyone else used this tool and found an improvement?

Cheers all

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at Oct 16. 2014 10:59

I just want to edit and make pictures, walk my dog and go fishing.

borgus1

Senior Contributor Joined: Feb 27, 2013 00:33 Messages: 1318 Offline

Oct 16, 2014 11:38

http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/29746.page#170855

Perhaps of interest.

PapidoFrance45

Member Location: France-St jean le blanc Joined: Jan 21, 2011 05:06 Messages: 83 Offline

Oct 16, 2014 11:44

Hello,

I used the improved stabilizer coupled with the shiver of rotation of the camera and I am very satisfied with it; much better than with PD 12. I made a comparison with " Mercalli 3 " from Prodad and the result(profit) is similar. Hi All

Win10 64bits PRO OEM - i7 3820 3.6Ghz - 18Go de Ram-GTX960 (375.95)

Kyle 40

Contributor Location: Cumbria Joined: Sep 06, 2013 14:14 Messages: 467 Offline

Oct 16, 2014 13:10

Quote: http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/29746.page#170855

Perhaps of interest.

Thanks borgus1 I'm sure Barry also mentions another program that he also uses for image stabilization which is excellent. I just want to edit and make pictures, walk my dog and go fishing.

Kyle 40

Contributor Location: Cumbria Joined: Sep 06, 2013 14:14 Messages: 467 Offline

Oct 16, 2014 13:12

Quote: Hello,

I used the improved stabilizer coupled with the shiver of rotation of the camera and I am very satisfied with it; much better than with PD 12. I made a comparison with " Mercalli 3 " from Prodad and the result(profit) is similar.

Thanks for the reply PapidoFrance, that's interesting, I'm pleased that your stabilization has worked well for you.
I wish I could figure out why mine doesn't work

Cheers I just want to edit and make pictures, walk my dog and go fishing.

All vodi

Senior Contributor Location: Canada Joined: Aug 21, 2009 11:24 Messages: 1431 Offline

Oct 17, 2014 21:28

Kyle,

I'll second the motion that the "enhanced" stabilizer is an improvement overall. In fact with some images it's very good. However, I have found some instances (I can't point out why) where it's actually worse. Win 10, i7

Kyle 40

Contributor Location: Cumbria Joined: Sep 06, 2013 14:14 Messages: 467 Offline

Oct 18, 2014 06:38

Quote: Kyle,

I'll second the motion that the "enhanced" stabilizer is an improvement overall. In fact with some images it's very good. However, I have found some instances (I can't point out why) where it's actually worse.

Hi HDedit I agree with your findings

Having now tried the Enhanced Stabilizer on a few wobbly shots, I also find varying degrees of picture quality from a slight improvement to the subject being stable but the rest of the image is "stretched" at various corners. Not pleasent at all

Hopefully it will improve ...................................................

cheers I just want to edit and make pictures, walk my dog and go fishing.

SoNic67

Senior Contributor Joined: Sep 27, 2014 14:14 Messages: 1308 Offline

Oct 18, 2014 08:53

The PD12 stabilizer starts by cropping a "safe" area around. That area is proportional with the amount of stabilization selected.
Is the PD13 trying to keep image not-cropped? I can't check, I un-installed the trial.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at Oct 18. 2014 08:54

All vodi

Senior Contributor Location: Canada Joined: Aug 21, 2009 11:24 Messages: 1431 Offline

Oct 18, 2014 09:07

PD13 uses similar method. In enhanced mode it appears to take more samples to improve the image quality. And as a result the rendering takes more than 4 times longer. Win 10, i7

Heinz E.

Newbie Location: Switzerland Joined: May 07, 2014 10:05 Messages: 28 Offline

Oct 22, 2014 03:14

Hi,
I'm also using the improved stabilizer. To me, it works better than the ordinary, but the preview is teribly stammered. The Picture stops but the sound continues. Also the timer stops. After a while preview jumps to the actual Position.
A stunning > 2.5 GB RAM is used (not a Problem).

Thank you for help.

i7-3820, 16 GB RAM, AMD R9 280X 3 GB, 2 x 512 GB SSD
Windows 8.1 pro x64 up to date

EKSVid

Senior Member Joined: Aug 07, 2014 00:07 Messages: 150 Offline

Feb 18, 2015 22:57

I have the same result as you Heinz (with a much lower spec PC - nothing like yours).

What is interesting is the info box next to the "Use enhanced stabilizer" check-box. It said "...it is recommended that you switch to a non-real time preview or render a preview for the applied range".

The non-realtime part I understand but I'm not sure how to render a preview for the applied range? (edit: Found out how to do the render preview now - thanks to youtube

)

Also I found that it will not render a title into the clip that is being stabilized as expected. In my case I have a bit of text that shows up in the middle of the clip. It looks like image stabilizer treats this as 3 diff sections.
First the section up to the title gets stabilized – then the section with the title – then the last section after the title. If you have some really shaky footage like I used then you see the “jumps” (looks like a cut) at these points in the produced video (This is not visible in the render preview - only when I produce the output).
My guess is I would have to produce stabilized clips first and then pull it back into the timeline to add the title.

This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at Feb 19. 2015 00:41

Win8.1 Pro x64 / Dual x5670 / 24GB / GTX960 4GB / 240GB SSD + 640GB HDD / PD13 Ultimate