I went to quite a lot of trouble and I am convinced it can't be done perfectly.

I broke the rotation part of the clip down to INDIVIDUAL frames which works out at about 125. That part is fine, but when you try and change the rotation in power tools the graduation is not small enough to make each frame exact.

I got pretty smooth, but nowhere near good enough.

My verdict is: It cant be done!

Robert Panny TM10, GH2, GH4,

I did try the rotational stabilizer both before and after producing the file. It is not effective. Believe your idea will work very well if the rotation is 1 second instead of 5 seconds.

The rotational stabilizer is excellent for fixing twisting fast jerks in hand held camcorder video in my experience. Keyframing the small hand held camera rotation (a few degrees) also works very well in my experience. It seems like that it is the slow rotation that makes it too apparent.

Robert – I believe your idea will work very well here if the 90 degrees rotation sample is done quickly in 0.25 seconds instead of the slow 5 seconds. Instead of 125 frames try 5 frames. That is 1 of every 25 frames and think that will be very satisfactory.

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Well, sure as hell, plan "A" doesn't work Panny TM10, GH2, GH4,

Fellow attempters -

Plan "A" would be the perfect thing if the original camera rotation was executed mathematically... which it wasn't!

The difficulty we're having is down to the fact that we are trying to apply a consistent rate of rotation - say 0.6° per frame - to a clip that isn't rotating at a consistent rate. So (in Mathematics terms) we're trying to apply a linear progression to non-linear rotation.

To test this I pulled out my trusty screen protractor to analyse the degree of rotation per frame of the original clip. I won't bore you with the details because it won't get us anywhere, but (even allowing for some error) the clip does not rotate at an even rate.



Using a colour board, I replicated the duration & rotation of the original clip - so it rotated through 90° over a duration of 5:06. It rotated smoothly as you'd expect. When I applied "Plan A" to it, the reverse rotation was just as smooth.

I said earlier that georgiejr may be in deeper than he/she wished. The rest of us probably are too!

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Oh, GeorgieJr!

I'm afraid you've really "set the cat among the pigeons" with this one!

A similar subject came up some time back about the orientation of mobile phones when used as video cameras, but as you were using a video camera to begin with.... it's really always better to use these devices in their "horizontal" orientation(landscape) and basically avoid any need to rotate clips in the first place! As you've seen by reading posts by Shadowman, Ynotfish, Tomasc, Carl312, Barry The Crab, SoNic67 and Richmond Dan, the attempt has almost had them tearing their hair out..... we-ell... a bit of an exaggeration, perhaps, but... you get the picture!

Cheers!

Neil.

Have we lost the "main man" by doing all this. After all he/she is a newbie and all this is way beyond that.

Perhaps in future we should be more aware of our members real needs before going off on a technical tangent.

Just a thought

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Quote: Have we lost the "main man" by doing all this. After all he/she is a newbie and all this is way beyond that.

Perhaps in future we should be more aware of our members real needs before going off on a technical tangent.

Just a thought

Robert

Hello, Robert(Shadowman),

I don't think we, any of us who responded, had gone off on any tangent, The OP was about rotating a video clip, we've stuck fairly close to the subject, but some of the technical talk about "keyframes" and such, GeorgieJr may have found somehat daunting. They're my thoughts, anyway.

Cheers!

Neil.

Quote: Hello, georgiejr!

Welcome to the forum! Yes, you can rotate a clip in PD14, Drop the video onto the timeline, then, in "Tools", select "Power Tools", Here you have the options of 2D to 3D, Video In Reverse(good for comic effect), Crop & Zoom, Video Speed(Benny Hill used this for his end-of show chase sequences, all those girls chasing "him"! ha-ha), and the one you want, Video Rotation. Just check the box next to the tool you wish to use.

Cheers!

Neil.

When I do it (in PD14) it's no good.

I stupidly shot some footage with my smartphone camera vertically. So it's 1080 x 1920 instead of 1920 x 1080. I cna rotate it as you show, or I can place it on the timeline then Power Tools -> Rotate. Either way I get a rotated video but it's now much small, lower resolution, with black border.

It's not copying each input line to an output column, as I want. It's trying, and failing, to be clever, by scaling.

I wonder if you can help with this please?

Not sure what you mean. If you took a long, narrow vertical video, it will always be a long narrow vertical video. You can put it in a different frame (that is, rotate it), but it will have black bars by the side and be a shorter height. There's no way it will fill a 16x9 space without stretching it sideways and distorting the image. Regards,
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Thanks Dan. All of the pixels are there, as I said, it's 1080 x 1920 instead of 1920 x 1080. I just want the rows copied to the columns.

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