Hi SteveK, Yes all drivers installed properly, im using Ver 11.0.0.2215. When i installed upgrade i dont know what Ver it was but had a problem with the rendering ( the known problem with the GTX 550ti issue )so updated to the 2215 ver. All works well apart from the Default AVC 1920 x 1080/50p (28 Mbps) .
Just a thought here but here is the process i installed PD11,
Uninstalled PD11 Trial,reboot, installed PD11 Upgrade, then CyberLinkPD11_Content_Essential_CL.120711_ContentP_PCP120712-02.. then CyberLinkPD11_Content_Premium_CL.120711_ContentP_PCP120712-01
I wonder if i should have done PREMIUM before ESSENTIAL ? because of the -01 ?
I'll remove all Cyberlink products today, and reinstall contents in the -01 then -02 order to see if this helps Cheers

FYI - I've dug into this bit further as it also fails for me using either of the predefined 28 Mbps (1440x1080 and 1920x1080/50p) profiles (others seems to work fine) using the "Hardware Video Encoder" with the msg "Production Unsuccessful. Please ensure your graphics card driver is up to date, and update to the latest versions of Windows Media Player or QuickTime software. You can also try to output the production in a different video format.".

I also have an nvidia GTX550Ti and have tried both the latest stable and beta drivers.

I don't think it is driver or HW related just a bug. If I create a custom profile that is the same as the std one profile the output works fine.
PD 64 Bit-Win10 64 Bit-32GB RAM-80TB HDD
Sony FX6 - 500Mbps 4k/50p AVC-I HLG
Canon XF400 - 150Mbps 4k/50p AVC
GoPro Hero6 Black
Pana HS700-28Mbps 1080/50p AVC (High@L4.2)
Canon HV20-HDV 25Mbps 16:9 1440x1080/25p MPEG

Thanks jmone, works when you make a custom profile, using the default 1920 x1080p settings. So im leaving all as is. Cheers

No probs. PD 64 Bit-Win10 64 Bit-32GB RAM-80TB HDD
Sony FX6 - 500Mbps 4k/50p AVC-I HLG
Canon XF400 - 150Mbps 4k/50p AVC
GoPro Hero6 Black
Pana HS700-28Mbps 1080/50p AVC (High@L4.2)
Canon HV20-HDV 25Mbps 16:9 1440x1080/25p MPEG

Hello
For the last 15 years or so I have used Pinnacle products, at the moment I use V16. It handles 60P well, using TsMuxer and Roxio I can burn 60P BD that works well on a 2 year old Samsung BD player after a recent firmware update.

The problem with P16 is that it re-encodes the whole video and doing a poor job.

So the aim is to use an editing software that does not re-encode untouched 60P video and PD11 seems to do that.

However the resulting files cannot be imported into TsMuxer, or MultiAVCHD, apparently the audio part is corrupted.

Is there a setting or workaround that will allow this to be done with PD11?

Any help is appreciated, I have read most of the material I found but there appears to be no simple solution.

Of course it would be nice if Cyberlink would not require external software to burn 60P BD's. BTW I use the trial version 11.

Eugene 73s, WA6JZN ex DL9GC
CYBERLINK PLEASE ADD UHD BLU RAY BURNING SOFTWARE
PD14,
Win10,64bit.CPU i7 6700,16GB ,C= 480 GB SSD ,GPU GTX1060 6GB 1 fan. Plus 3 int, 4 ext HDD's for video etc.LG WH16NS40 reads UHD.
4K 24" ViewSonic monitor.Camera Sony FDR-A

Quote: Hello
For the last 15 years or so I have used Pinnacle products, at the moment I use V16. It handles 60P well, using TsMuxer and Roxio I can burn 60P BD that works well on a 2 year old Samsung BD player after a recent firmware update.

The problem with P16 is that it re-encodes the whole video and doing a poor job.

So the aim is to use an editing software that does not re-encode untouched 60P video and PD11 seems to do that.

However the resulting files cannot be imported into TsMuxer, or MultiAVCHD, apparently the audio part is corrupted.

Is there a setting or workaround that will allow this to be done with PD11?

Any help is appreciated, I have read most of the material I found but there appears to be no simple solution.

Of course it would be nice if Cyberlink would not require external software to burn 60P BD's. BTW I use the trial version 11.

Eugene

I'm also very interested!
I've got 1920x1080/50P video from my Panasonic camera and did produce it to a 1920x1080/50P (28Mbps) .m2ts file.
But my PS3 won't play it??
TsMuxer won't work because the audio is corrupted.

I've tested also a blu-ray with menu on 1920x1080/50i (there is no profile for 50P) resolution but then the menu is not showing on the PS3. Black screen with only sound. If I push further it will play the video but not with the quality it should be.......

Gents - Try this. I wrote a simple batch file that uses eac3to to demux the contents of the "produce.m2ts" file then remux it correctly with tsmuxer. Just place the output from PD in the extracted FIXPD9 folder then run the "Fix PD9.BAT" file and see how the output.m2ts file plays on the PS3. It should be more compliant but I'd suggest that you use CPU only in PD11 (eg no SVRT or GPU acceleration) but you will need to create the custom profile ealier in the thread to aviod transoding issues.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/59011278/FixPD9.zip

You may also want to read this thread esp on the bit on changes in the PS3 settings http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/17145.page;jsessionid=006FE7467F54E79255033880BBEDC48C

del output.m2ts eac3to.exe produce.m2ts 1: Video.h264 2: Audio.AC3 Pause tsmuxer pd9.meta output.m2ts pause del video.h264 del audio.ac3 PD 64 Bit-Win10 64 Bit-32GB RAM-80TB HDD
Sony FX6 - 500Mbps 4k/50p AVC-I HLG
Canon XF400 - 150Mbps 4k/50p AVC
GoPro Hero6 Black
Pana HS700-28Mbps 1080/50p AVC (High@L4.2)
Canon HV20-HDV 25Mbps 16:9 1440x1080/25p MPEG

Hi Dafydd, these are really basic issues and have been reported for a looooong time. Any feedback from Cyberlink recently of this?
Thanks
Nathan PD 64 Bit-Win10 64 Bit-32GB RAM-80TB HDD
Sony FX6 - 500Mbps 4k/50p AVC-I HLG
Canon XF400 - 150Mbps 4k/50p AVC
GoPro Hero6 Black
Pana HS700-28Mbps 1080/50p AVC (High@L4.2)
Canon HV20-HDV 25Mbps 16:9 1440x1080/25p MPEG

Update on "B" frame corruption = Fixed

Quick Test with Patch 2418 and:

The "B" Frame coruption is gone! So the STD "AVC 1920 x 1080/50p (28 Mbps)" works well

Good Stuff!
Nathan

FYI - the other issues of GPU rendering not working and the non-std M2TS container/stream issue remains. PD 64 Bit-Win10 64 Bit-32GB RAM-80TB HDD
Sony FX6 - 500Mbps 4k/50p AVC-I HLG
Canon XF400 - 150Mbps 4k/50p AVC
GoPro Hero6 Black
Pana HS700-28Mbps 1080/50p AVC (High@L4.2)
Canon HV20-HDV 25Mbps 16:9 1440x1080/25p MPEG

Update on SVRT = Works

I've updated the first post after some more testing and with the B frame corruption issue now fixed, I had a look at SVRT again and I'm happy to report that this too now works correctly:
1) Speed - Part 1: Compared to CPU Rendering, SVRT can take as little as 40% of the time but this will depend on the size of your clips and % that needs to be rendered (see Note 1 and 3). It is clearly slower than just copying or remuxing (as this would take only a few seconds) but it is a great potential seed improvement
1) Speed - Part 2: The next test was to add sample Title and Clip Transitions and PD11 be behaved perfectly by only dropping out of SVRT to CPU render just these required components. The result was that the time taken to produce the file only increased marginally for each of these (see Note 2).
2) Quality: I have seen no quality issues that plagued earlier versions of PD. There were no artefacts or Audio/Video Sync issue on the transition point in the produced video (even after remuxing).

Overall - I'm very happy that 1080/50p (or 60) support in PD11 looks as come of age with:
- 50/60 Tic Timeline
- High quality CPU and SVRT Rendering

....now of the muxing was a bit more std it would increase compatibility with 3rd party devices.

Dafydd – please feel free to pass on my comments/thanks to Cyberlink

Note 1: Test was one 2:20 sec clip with no transitions, titles etc which (on my PC) took 1:38sec to CPU render and 0:39sec to SVRT.
Note 2: Test was two of the 2:20 sec clips back to back. With no title or transitions it took 1:13sec to SVRT, 1:19 with a single 5sec title, and 1:25 with the title and a overlap fade between the two clips.
Note 3: I did a test of an Hour Long project with many short clips, lots of titles, transitions (even other format material) and SVRT was 13% Slower in rendering the output vs CPU.
Note 4: I did another test with a mix of clips, transitions and titles. Again SVRT was slower than CPU rendering. PD 64 Bit-Win10 64 Bit-32GB RAM-80TB HDD
Sony FX6 - 500Mbps 4k/50p AVC-I HLG
Canon XF400 - 150Mbps 4k/50p AVC
GoPro Hero6 Black
Pana HS700-28Mbps 1080/50p AVC (High@L4.2)
Canon HV20-HDV 25Mbps 16:9 1440x1080/25p MPEG

One interesting "fact" I noticed was that PD11 does not produce exact clones when it should, eg:
- Original 2:20sec Test clip was created by PD11 using CPU rendering
- When this Test Clip was put into the time line from which another clip was “Produced” without any changes … both the CPU and SVRT file sizes were slightly different. So while the output looks the same, in "theory" all three should also be bit identical which they are not. PD 64 Bit-Win10 64 Bit-32GB RAM-80TB HDD
Sony FX6 - 500Mbps 4k/50p AVC-I HLG
Canon XF400 - 150Mbps 4k/50p AVC
GoPro Hero6 Black
Pana HS700-28Mbps 1080/50p AVC (High@L4.2)
Canon HV20-HDV 25Mbps 16:9 1440x1080/25p MPEG

Jmone
could it be that there is hope?
Got this note on the 27 from support in regard to the 60P audio problem. But looks like a form letter I am afraid.
Got all the latest drivers, updates etc, NO change.


Dear Eugene,

Thank you for writing back.

In regards to your concern, I would like to inform you that, I have escalated your issue to our Product & Development and they are working on it, once I get any update from our Product & Development department, I will mention the same on our website, so please keep visit www.cyberlink.com
for latest updates.

Please feel free to contact us back for any further clarification or for any assistance related to CyberLink Products. Use the below mentioned link to get back to us for your further queries:

https://membership.cyberlink.com/prog/support/cs/support-login.jsp

Thanks and Regards,

Amrita
CyberLink Technical Support 73s, WA6JZN ex DL9GC
CYBERLINK PLEASE ADD UHD BLU RAY BURNING SOFTWARE
PD14,
Win10,64bit.CPU i7 6700,16GB ,C= 480 GB SSD ,GPU GTX1060 6GB 1 fan. Plus 3 int, 4 ext HDD's for video etc.LG WH16NS40 reads UHD.
4K 24" ViewSonic monitor.Camera Sony FDR-A

It does look like the Std escalation letter but CyberLink moves at their own pace and priorities so I have no insight as to if or when the muxing will be looked at.

On another note: More testing reveals that SVRT on projects with a lot of small clips, transition and titles etc is slower than CPU Rendering. I updated my OP removing the SVRT as a clear winner as it really does depend on what you project is comprised of. The issue seems to be that when SVRT is running it is quicker but when it drops out of SVRT mode it is slower than straight CPU Rendering. At this stage I will probably use CPU Rendering by YMMV. PD 64 Bit-Win10 64 Bit-32GB RAM-80TB HDD
Sony FX6 - 500Mbps 4k/50p AVC-I HLG
Canon XF400 - 150Mbps 4k/50p AVC
GoPro Hero6 Black
Pana HS700-28Mbps 1080/50p AVC (High@L4.2)
Canon HV20-HDV 25Mbps 16:9 1440x1080/25p MPEG

Quote: On another note: More testing reveals that SVRT on projects with a lot of small clips, transition and titles etc is slower than CPU Rendering. I updated my OP removing the SVRT as a clear winner as it really does depend on what you project is comprised of. The issue seems to be that when SVRT is running it is quicker but when it drops out of SVRT mode it is slower than straight CPU Rendering. At this stage I will probably use CPU Rendering by YMMV.

SVRT appears to CPU encode the last 2 seconds and beginning 2 seconds of ever clip, even if no split or editing was done. It also appears to take some additional overhead looking at each clip. So if one has a lot of small clips you are better off using tsMuxerGUI or the like to combine all the small clips to one long clip and then edit and then SVRT will function better. This is true at least for Canon footage.

Jeff

Thanks Jeff. PD 64 Bit-Win10 64 Bit-32GB RAM-80TB HDD
Sony FX6 - 500Mbps 4k/50p AVC-I HLG
Canon XF400 - 150Mbps 4k/50p AVC
GoPro Hero6 Black
Pana HS700-28Mbps 1080/50p AVC (High@L4.2)
Canon HV20-HDV 25Mbps 16:9 1440x1080/25p MPEG

jmone, thanks for your help guiding through right AVCHD processing routine.
As many users here, I am using PD11, test file 1080p60 coming from Sony CX700, bitrate arround 25.5 Mbps.
Rendered from PD11 using SVRT (no transistions), template AVC1920x1080/60p (28Mbps). Output m2ts file without patching with FixPD9 obvioulsy does not go through multiAVCHD. Using muxing/remuxing with fixpd9FixPD9 lets multiAVCHD running properly, tsMuxer does not have complains and everything should be OK except that video does not work smoothly. Video somehow goes slover, sometimes freezes, sutters. m2ts even not authored by multiAVCHD, only patched by FixPD9 sutters already. Same playing problem on PC or playing faile from external HDD connected to OPPO95 player or even patched by FixPD9 m2ts file burn on DVD media and played as data disk on OPPO95. Same problems scenario indicating that applying FixPD9 somehow affects play. If no FixPD9 applied m2ts plays perfectly fine per playing scenarious above (except no authored as AVCHD by multiAVCHD).
I read some other users experience simmilar issues. Just curious, would it be possible to fix/fine tune FixPD9 utility?
Thanks again for your wonderfull tool.

No probs - there are a couple of things it could be. Could you please package up (File --> Export --> Pack Project Materials) a sample PD11 project and upload so I can test as my source material is 50p?
Thanks
Nathan PD 64 Bit-Win10 64 Bit-32GB RAM-80TB HDD
Sony FX6 - 500Mbps 4k/50p AVC-I HLG
Canon XF400 - 150Mbps 4k/50p AVC
GoPro Hero6 Black
Pana HS700-28Mbps 1080/50p AVC (High@L4.2)
Canon HV20-HDV 25Mbps 16:9 1440x1080/25p MPEG

Hello jmone,
I did as you requested, uploaded zipped (exported project and original mts files) files.
Files location and more details sent to your PM.
I appreciate for your considerations trying to fix this.
Regards,
George

Had a quick play and you may have the "TV Format" to the correct setting. Can you try this.

1) Start a new project.
2) Change you project project preferences (Edit --> Preferences --> General) to TV Format: NTSC (60fps) and Use Drop Frame Timecode to Yes.
3) Drag the clip you gave me into this new projects timeline
4) Got to Produce and clickon the Intelligent SVRT Button. It Should bring up the AVC 1920x1080/60p(28Mbps) profile, and just "Apply"
5) Uncheck "Fast video renering technology"

I produced a clip this way and it played back smoothing on my PC (did not test any HW Devices yet), but can you do the above and let me know
- How does this clip play now?
- How does this clip play when run through fixPD9?

**EDIT: FYI- I think we are going to need to do a bit of elimination to work out what it is PD 64 Bit-Win10 64 Bit-32GB RAM-80TB HDD
Sony FX6 - 500Mbps 4k/50p AVC-I HLG
Canon XF400 - 150Mbps 4k/50p AVC
GoPro Hero6 Black
Pana HS700-28Mbps 1080/50p AVC (High@L4.2)
Canon HV20-HDV 25Mbps 16:9 1440x1080/25p MPEG

jmone, I followed your instructions. It plays smoothly on my PC, actually it played smoothly before. But it still does not play smoothly after FixPD9 patching.
To summarize: In both cases (my rendering and your suggested) file rendered by PD11 plays smoothly (right after rendering). But it does not play smoothly after patching with FixPD9, in both cases. In other words no changes.

Mmmm they all play on my PC fine. Can you post one of the ones that don't play well. PD 64 Bit-Win10 64 Bit-32GB RAM-80TB HDD
Sony FX6 - 500Mbps 4k/50p AVC-I HLG
Canon XF400 - 150Mbps 4k/50p AVC
GoPro Hero6 Black
Pana HS700-28Mbps 1080/50p AVC (High@L4.2)
Canon HV20-HDV 25Mbps 16:9 1440x1080/25p MPEG