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Hi,
I for one stopped using the Trim/Multi-Trim function a long, long time ago and do all trimming by using Split in the timeline. You may want to first extend the length in the timeline by clicking on the timeline, right click and drag the timeline. Then under Clip-Movie you have a Left arrow, Seek by, and make sure this is set to Frame and the Right arrow.
Play your video and Space-bar to Pause where you think you want to trim and then use the L-R arrows to advance frame by frame to fine exactly where you want to trim and then Split the video at these points and Delete. Then play and if not happy, undo and redo until you are pleased. Please do understand that your movie is moving and trimming out may not always make it connect perfectly again, so sometime a cross fade may help at the point where the video is again merged.
Now follow Carl's answer in the next Trim in Timeline but only Video is clipped; audio runs full length and I think you will find this is a much better approach than the Multi-Trim.
George
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Hi Barry,
I downloaded and inserted into the middle of one of my .mts projects 3 times with the center one reversed, Yes as I have always noted reversing a clip would make playback in Timeline slow down and be jerky, but never really stop.
I then Produced this project at 1920 X1080p 24/frames per second as I would with any of my projects. Yes during Producing the reversed clip was choppy and reversed clip produced somewhat slower. However the resultant file plays perfectly in Timeline, Full HD in Media Viewer or in SplashPro.
Thus from my observations the final produced file plays perfectly. However as noted I have a rather powerful computer and graphics card.
George
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Hi Dafydd.
Unedited Canon HFS21 60i
George
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Hi,
I to had a lot of problems with PD8 & PD9 crashing and not being reliable, but upon getting a new high end computer and graphics card I can proudly state that in over a year PD9 has been extremely reliable. Only occasionally would it simply stop working, but not a problem with constant saves.
I was working only with HD files and taking full advantage of the Fix/Enhance and Power Tools options and upon either Producing these Projects or creating BR disks it NEVER in over a year did PD9 fail to Produce or create my disk successfully.
I just recently upgraded to PD10 and still very impressed with the reliability, so for me anyhow I deem my success with having a computer and graphics card that can adequately handle the task. For me there really is not that much worth considering in PD10 unless you want 3D which I currently don't.
George
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Hi Dave,
Your vernal pool sounds very exciting and right up my ally and yes it can be very time consuming. Yes the music score really makes it and your choice for each sounds right on. I know in my case it took time to find the right music for each species or circumstance and if I were to view without any music or the wrong track for the occasion, what a difference. Even dubbing in the normal bird sounds normally heard in the park also helped.
I normally produce all my projects, then add all produced files as a new project and then create disk. I have also imported additional videos under the create disk with no problems, but have never tried just adding additional projects.
In my case with so many short clips I really don't like or use transitions between clips and if I am very careful at what point I split one clip and start the next clip the jerkiness is seldom noticed. For instance if I have a clip of a hawk and he gives me a side profile for longer than I want I tend to trim out the stationery ending with a perhaps a side profile and starting the next clip with the same side profile. But in some cases I do have to resort to generally a shorted fade transition between clips.
Yes an hour is too long for most and next year with an enclosed pavilion I hope to produce shorter and more videos instead of trying to crowd all into one video.
George
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Hi Carl,
Yes I agree that if you want to do HD Blu-ray that you do indeed need a fast and powerful computer and graphics card. Prior to this it was constant crashes, errors and frustration and now it is fun but is still extremely time consuming which really is not the fault of PD but there are things that can be greatly improved upon to speed editing up.
George
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My apologies to Dafydd and some others for I have not been really following this forum or participating in recent months, as they had been extremely helpful when I had questions or problems in the past. Now I thought it time to offer my experience with PD-9 to date which I am still using version 2330, for me I have to state has been extremely reliable and actually fun to use without the constant crashes and frustrations with prior versions of Power Director or PD-9 beta. Although I am sure much of my current success is also due to my new much more powerful computer and graphics card listed below.
Since about the 1st of December I have been producing and showing a one hour movie “The Wildlife of Moss Park” for the Orange County Florida Parks System to show to the park campers each Saturday evening at one of their parks not far from the Orlando International Airport. This movie is produced in HD Blu-ray from video I have taken with either my earlier Canon HG21 or my newer HFS21 camera which I might add although the quality is the same the features available are far superior versus the HG21. All clips are taken at 1080p (progressive) 1920 x1080 and the movie is projected onto a 150” (3.81 meter) diagonal screen to an audience ranging from 40 up to 160 people depending upon the weather and the number of campers and next year upon my return for the winter, the plans are to expand on this by enclosing the current open pavilion to allow for daytime shows of not more than 45 minutes and to attract more youth groups to attend.
My workflow is as follows for the type of movie I want to produce which certainly will not fit all on this forum:
1. In Power Director I have broken the movie into 10 shorter projects ranging from 4 minutes to 11 minutes and each week I edit several projects by removing older and adding newer clips taken and tweaking. I then PRODUCE and I am happy to state that I have NEVER had a failure in producing.
A. PRODUCE time ranges just slightly longer than the video length, for instance a 7:35 minute project requires 9:31 minutes or 4:52 requires 6:04 to PRODUCE to file.
B. With that said SVRT used to be a big deal to me and now since SVRT doesn’t work with my HFS21 camera I really don’t care as I can live with the present PRODUCE times and more important is the reliability.
C. With regards to Hardware Video Encoder I have seen posts that enabling reduces the quality; however I have not found this to be the case as I am extremely pleased with as whether viewed on my 24” monitor or the 150” screen it is extremely sharp. With HVE a 4.52 minute project requires only 6:04 minutes when enabled but requires 8:22 without HVE.
D. I have also seen some posts that Producing or Creating Disk in MPG gives slightly better quality versus m2ts but I have not found that to be the case so I stick with m2ts.
2. Each Saturday prior to showing I then add the 10 produced projects along with a beginning and ending as a new project and Burn to a Blu-ray disk and in all this time I have had only one failure to burn to disk which proved to be a BR rewritable disk that had become defective. Whereas I to with earlier versions used to use ImgBurn due to too many failures with PD to burn to disk and even another program for Producing for the same reason.
A. My latest disk was 1 hour 4 minutes and the time to burn was 22:07 minutes and 12.81 MB and I currently use no menu.
3. With regards to Editing the clips in my projects I having spent considerable hours in doing so I have become rather familiar with editing for my work and the use Power Director and its potential.
A. I seldom use Trim except to perhaps trim off the ends of my voice over which I now have the movie narrated to my satisfaction. For the video I simply expand the time line and use the split to get the clips I desire. I might add that most all my clips average only 7-9 seconds as anything longer unless it really adds to the movie is repetitious and boring to the audience of which I do include some such longer interesting clips.
B. Being near the Orlando airport, watercraft from the two lakes and auto traffic, etc. nearly all the original audio can’t be used, so I unlink, delete and then dub in new audio which is very time consuming. At first getting the exact moment or sequence was a challenge, but now I find not a problem for dubbing in audio. I generally use four or five audio tracks including Voice Over and Music.
C. With regards to Fix/Enhance and Power Tools prior to PD9 and my new more powerful computer I seldom used due to constant crashes and errors. Plus the fact that I normally use a tripod and have my camera set to give the results I desire while filming. However I have found that by going through each clip one by one that even very slight tweaking such as Stabilizer or Color Adjustment can make a great improvement and video crop or speed can at times be useful.
D. I keep it simple as when I first started using Power Director I kind of got carried away with all the Text, Transitions, etc. but for my work it made it look rather “gaudy” or overdone. Now I seldom use transitions except simple Fade between species and in most instances I now use only the default text and a specific text and color. For others I am sure Effects, PIP Objects and Particles are desired, which I now never use.
E. The selection of background music is very important to the movie as is the voice over narration which requires a good microphone and I use an Audio-technica AT2020 USB as last year I was pretty much standing in front and talking to the audience, whereas as now I simply stand in the rear and observe the audience reaction and how I can further improve next week.
F. I really like Wave Editor and use it constantly and will generally run all my voice captures through it for slight changes and I also use to create my own dubbed files to replace the original. Some which are taken from other clips not included in the movie or I may early on a Sunday when it is quieter take audio only or even create my only audio from other sources.
G. The tendency for most including my self is to want to include too much video footage that is redundant. By having to keep my movie to approximately 1 hour plus the comments obtained from the attendees, my audience has FORCED me along with my own observation each week to ask myself these four questions. (1) do I really need this species which is really not that interesting (2) do I need so much redundancy footage (3) can I shorten a clip even further and (4) can I adjust the dubbed audio, music or voice over to better fit the clip(s). By adhering to this I am now able to keep the attention of the audience much better than earlier in the season. If I can now keep the attention of smaller kids for an hour than I know I am on the right track. Also extremely important is showing not the usual, but scenes not normally seen by the average person. Kids must have excitement and gory details to keep their attention span such as close-ups of snakes, spiders or hawks eating snakes, etc.
H. At times I allow my educational narration, background sounds and music to carry the movie along, while at other times I want the selected music score for a particular scene to carry it alone at which point the kids or even the entire audience is clapping or swaying to the music and scene, thus I know I am on the right track or when a 4-1/2 year old boy asking his grandfather when can they see the movie again.
I. We have all seen to many home movies or slide shows that were simply too long and boring except to the person who took them, but we didn’t want to hurt their feelings. Thus I try to listen to the comments I obtain from the viewers to help guide me. For example my main species was the Sandhill Cranes on the nest and with the young chicks which many don’t see. However I had this project about 14 minutes and the suggestion was made to split this in half. Thus now after 7 minutes I state “Now let’s leave the Cranes for the time being and move on to other species and then return later to the Cranes” and which this change has been very well received.
In conclusion I for one have been extremely pleased with PD-9 and have found it to be very reliable. Yes there are some issues I would like to see changed in the next version which for my work would make it even better and faster. Yes my work of recent months has been only to produce to Blu-ray using only the AVCHD 1920 x 1080 (24 Mbps) so if I attempted other settings I might observe totally different results. Also this post really doesn’t allow me to post all my workflow, but I do hope some find it helpful.
Regards,
George Grant
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I could highlight and copy several clips from the timeline in one project and paste it into the timeline of another project.
As far as I know this is not possible in PD9. I also liked this function and used frequently with PD8 and I hope it is reinstated with a future patch.
George
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I also downloaded your 20 sec video, split 10 times, applied random transitions, tried all of the Power Tools as well as Fix/Enhance and all actions were instant and when played in Media Viewer with multiple effects, the playback was perfect.
So I guess it is not Power Director that is the problem nor your video file and my computer specs are listed below. Thus it appears you need to look closer to home to what your problem is. The forum members have certainly gone the extra mile to try and assist you with your problem and I agree you should show a little more appreciation for all their efforts.
George
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Hi Paul,
I downloaded the dec17-1000015.mpg file 19,492 kb and as you state when inserted into PD Library it shows a Music Icon which will not play. However it is just not PD9 as when I tried to open in Windows Media Player the same. I also tried Windows Movie Maker and and it will play with only a black screen and no sound. When the file is viewed in Media Info as far as I can tell it shows OK as a MPG video file, so I am not sure what your problem is as it is just not associated with PD9 as far as I can determine.
Perhaps someone else can give you some better information.
George
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Hi Paul,
Unless I am totally misunderstanding what you are trying to do. why are even using Capture if you simply want to import the video files into the PD Library to edit in the Timeline.
Simply drag and drop the files from your computer into the Library. I have two Canon cameras and have never had a problem with PD7, 8 or 9.
George
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Please advise because PD9 is not compatible with Canon (HF200) AVCHD series at the moment which is annoying as native AVCHD editing capability is one of the unique selling points of the PD family.
With PD8 SVRT used to work great with my Canon HG21, but not 24p clips from my new Canon HFS21. With PD9 SVRT will work with the HG21 but is far slower with inferior quality than Hardware video encoder alone which I now only use.
There are definitely issues with SVRT and Canon cameras.
George
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I downloaded the DBGMKR50.MPG and the playback was fine in Windows MP and PD9 and I saw no artifacts, blocking, etc. the same when I produced in PAL. However I would not consider the quality that great in the original or the produced, but could be several reasons, such as PAL versus NTSC which I use. Like Kevin i was unable to get SVRT to work with any selection.
I also think that a video of distant forest leaves is not a good choice to represent a problem as background leaves are never that sharp, prefer something closer with detail such including text.
I did not digest each and every post but I know from my experience with my Canon HG21 and HFS21 clips, with PD8 I could use SVRT but not with the HFS21. However during the PD9 beta testing I was getting serious artifacts and blocking using SVRT even with the HG21. For me with both of my cameras I can no longer use SVRT even if it states I can use as it will take much longer with inferior quality then with Hardware video encoder which is all that I now use with no problems and very pleased with the quality.
So Jesse I would try producing some short clips of original using as close to the original as possible to reduce rendering, but don't use SVRT as a test to see what the outcomes are. That's how I located my problem and solved it as I think there are serious issues with SVRT in PD9 with many cameras and formats.
George
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With both XP & W7 I have had issues where PD9 fails to start after running for a period of time without a reboot. I learned to solve the problem by going to Task Manager and check to see if PD9 is still running under Processes. If it is close it and then for me PD would then load OK.
George
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I use Wave Editor all the time and the above responses are all correct, but I would like to add the following as well
WE from PD is great if you only want to edit the clip from the time line and save only with the PD project.
If you want to save for future projects, you need to extract the audio and open in WE as as stand alone program and then all options are available such as saving the modified track or project.
As as stand a lone you can import as many tracks as you want including MP3, M4A, wma and wav but I have had instances where they would not import and not sure why, but usually a fresh start up of WE solves the problem.
Please note that most editing options are grayed out if you pause, you must use STOP to have most editing functions available.
Hope this helps.
George
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how do i extract the voice and just keep the music from a song? something like karoke style no voice only music?
Not knowing exactly what you desire to do, but in Wave Editor you can Delete unwanted segments and even Copy & Paste to replace to keep the desired length. Also under Effects - Volume the Boost or Fade has merit. I would suggest using WE as a Stand-a-Lone program to best accomplish this so you have more options to save, etc.
George
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Hi,
With my Canon HG21 clips SVRT used to work great in PD8, now it states 100% rendering required even though the only changes to the original clips are trimming. However in Produce states SVRT will work in Produce but if used is much slower than Hardware video encoder.
Thus I gave up on SVRT since using PD9 and only use HVE plus it has never worked with my new Canon HFS21.
George
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Yes Overlap, I tend to not use many transitions and then mostly fade and mainly in wildlife when I go from one species to another. I prefer the overlap to end a species in fade and a sharp beginning of the next subject. Between clips of the same subject I seldom use, but when two clips conflict I then prefer the Cross Fade. YES - BRING BACK THE DURATION BUTTON.
George
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Hi,
You are stating that in Edit - Preferences - Hardware Acceleration that the Enable NVIDA CUDA technology is greyed out and can't be checked.
George
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This was possible to do in PD8 but is not possible with PD9.
It may be addressed in subsequent patches....but who knows?
Yes I for one would like to see that function restored as I tended to work with multiple smaller projects before producing or burning. At times with PD8 I would copy and then paste the contents of one projects timeline into another project to rearrange into one new combined project.
George
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