Quote Your findings have all been duplicated here although I did not produce anything. Jeff already stated that he will be gone for a week. Wait for his findings and solutions. You did comment in another post I was involved in that you are aware of the windows media center use. Recordings I do are all svrt compliant. If you are not using windows 10 then you may want to try it. I believe wmc recordings can be 704 x 480/60i if you want.

You never stated in your post when you purchased the usb tuner stick. If it is recent then it may not include the drivers for being able to use the wmc. Your recordings are 544 x 480/60i using the arcsoft tuner software in which I have no experience. My oem tuner software records video that are also svrt compliant without using the wmc.

Thanks for trying it! Glad to know it's not just me who's getting the scene split.

I'm hesitant to try Win10 (for a variety of reasons). But I thought MS stopped supporting WMC in the middle of Win7?

I have a Diamond USB stick. It worked with WMC in Win7, but I preferred ArcSoft's Interface. (In part because it supports the Remote.)

I'll check to see if Diamond offers drivers for it for Win10. (Although IIRC, it uses the standard chipset that most everyone uses for TV Tuners. And so Win10 might support it natively.)

I don't mind converting my video before PD - ffmpeg is pretty quick w/ hardware acceleration. What should I transcode my highly variable VBR to? A simple copy in ffmpeg to clean things up? Or an actual conversion?

I just recorded an OTA movie that was a little over 2 hours long. PD cut the first "scene" at 2:05. I used only the first scene, cut the commercials, and SVRT worked fine.

So I think, for now, as a work around, I will set my recorder for two hour increments max.

I did some reasearch and found an unofficial build of WMC for Win10.

Okay, for anyone interested, I uploaded a smaller mpg file that causes problems for SVRT on my system.

It's an old noir movie "I wake up screaming."

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1MHm9u1ovFBcS1adE00Yi0xT1E/view?usp=sharing

It's a 2.6 GB file.

When I import it into PD 15, it opens in two "scenes." (BTW, I'm using the 2820 beta.)

You need both scenes for the whole movie.

I cut out the commercials, starting from the end moving to the front.

Here's the pds file that should do it all for you.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1MHm9u1ovFBdy1vWE1TcWdIMlE/view?usp=sharing

I let SVRT determine the profile and produce to mpg. (I might have had to ensure that "Dolby Digital" was selected under the Audio Profile tab.)

My end result is a 1.7 GB file that isn't the complete movie and that has some commericals in it. In fact, the titles for the movie start rolling thru at the 2/3 point in the trimmed movie!

When I produce to mp4, the file is 2.9 GB. (It's a 1:23 long movie.)

I would be curious to know if others get this same behavior with SVRT.

(As an aside, PD is getting so fast, that it only takes 13 minutes to produce to mp4. (Compared to a minute or two with SVRT.) So it's not a hardship producing to mp4. Still, since I'm th obsessive type, I like to see things work right.)

Your problems has nothing to do with the PD15 Beta. It does that with PD period. Your statements aren’t exactly right. I use a MCE remote control and is able to program the wmc right off the TV screen with my HTPC. See this example : https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1HE0S20594&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC-_-pla-_-Home+Gadgets-_-9SIA1HE0S20594&gclid=CjwKEAjwxurIBRDnt7P7rODiq0USJADwjt5Dw1qDfiqjJQDO6TbC1JoEFCFTy1cxpQP56GA48kFrihoCQ1fw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds . Just finished a recording yesterday.

We have only limited information that you posted. The arcsoft TV tuner software was written in 2010 and hasn’t been updated. You could try recording with PD15. In the capture mode, it is the 4th icon from the left for a digital tv tuner. Recordings made here are also svrt compliant.

Did not have the time to try out the last file you uploaded. I am at work now. I believe that if you want to stay with the arcsoft tv tuner software then Jeff may be able to give you a solution when he gets back in a few days.

Quote The arcsoft TV tuner software was written in 2010 and hasn’t been updated. You could try recording with PD15. In the capture mode, it is the 4th icon from the left for a digital tv tuner. Recordings made here are also svrt compliant.

I had tried recording directly. Unfortunately for me, PD doesn't recognize the Diamond USB stick in the Capture Mode. (Again, that could be because I have a trimmed down version of Win7. And /or because I don't have WMC installed anymore. Maybe there's a bridge in WMC that PC hooks in to. (I will make a backup image after typing this and reinstall WMC to see if it makes a difference.)

The link you sent me links to a Remote Control. Please, what tuner are you using? That might be a Plan B for me.

Quote I had tried recording directly. Unfortunately for me, PD doesn't recognize the Diamond USB stick in the Capture Mode.

That could mean that the manufacturer did not provide the drivers for the wmc, hence your previous statements about win 7. You probably don’t have drivers to allow capture with any other software. See Barry’s reply in this recent post about his TV tuner : http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/52353.page#post_box_274033 .

It looks like then that you may have limited options with that device. It does appear that you liked the arcsoft software for many years and may only recently wanted to use svrt. It may be better to wait a few more days for a possible answer before you do anything else. In this forum many users see no difference between svrt, hardware encode, and cpu encodes. I tend to agree that svrt is not really good in all cases although I prefer it.

Quote You did comment in another post I was involved in that you are aware of the windows media center use. Recordings I do are all svrt compliant.

So, to follow up: I was intrigued by the comment that OTA recordings made thru WMC are SVRT compliant. And (from another reply by tomasc) that I might be able to capture directly into PD from my USB stick.

So I spent a few days crafting a new Win7 install with WMC. (I use a product called NTLite, which allows me to slipstream KB's into a install iso - and also allows me to remove a ton of unneeded components in Windows to shrink its size and reduce malware attack surface.)

Fortunately, WMC works with my Diamond TV Wonder 750U USB stick.

Unfortunately, PD 15 does not work for digital OTA signals. I can see snow when I try analog. But PD can't find the digital part of the tuner.

One thing in favor of WMC is that Microsoft still supports the EPG. So it's a lot easier to look at the Guide and click on a movie to record a week ahead.

OTOH, my ancient TotalMedia software allows more options for recording. (In the sense that I can chose file size/quality.) Although as I've shown, some of those recordings are problematic for PD 15. I haven't done any testing just yet, but I'm guessing that WMC will produce larger files than TM did.

But TotalMedia requires Quick Time to install. (I had found a Lite version.) But I decided to not install TM (or QT) this time around.

Okay, I made my first video using a file from Windows Media Center as an import.

The first thing is that WMC uses a proprietary format (.wtv). Fortunately, PD 15 can import that.

But at first, I got a message about "multiple streams" in the file. I'm gonna guess that this is closed captioning stuff, and/or other languages.

No problem - I told PD to transcode the first stream.

So that turned it into an MPEG-2.

I cut the commercials and ran it thru SVRT for production.

Interesting, the SVRT profile turned out to be the same as with my TotalMedia files. Albeit, twice the bit rate. (As reported by Windows. MediaInfo has it a lot lower.) Still VBR.

SVRT worked fine.

So I finally tried the HQ and EP options in ArcSoft's TotalMedia software that came with my USB TV stick.

I expected HQ would work best with SVRT, since I expected less variableness in the VBR stream.

But I still got cut out commercials popping up in my SVRT produced video.

To my surprise, EP (Extended Play) worked with SVRT.

I've only tried it once - on a 2.5 hour test file.

But EP will be my recording setting for now. So if it doesn't work on future trims, I'll report back.

Power Director has never recognized digital tuners of any brand. Intel i7 4770k, 16GB, GTX1060 3GB, Two 240GB SSD, 4TB HD, Sony HDR-TD20V 3D camcorder, Sony SLT-A65VK for still images, Windows 10 Pro, 64bit
Gary Russell -- TN USA

Okay. Now I'm confused because someone else here said that it did. (Like maybe a Hauppauge installed in a PCI slot?)

Even if it did work in PD, I don't see a way to schedule a TV recording.

Anway, now that I have TotolMedia and WMC working, I'm set for now.

Quote Power Director has never recognized digital tuners of any brand.

I believe that it works with someone else’s digital tuner and mine. See the attached screenshot.

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Quote Power Director has never recognized digital tuners of any brand.

I believe that it works with someone else’s digital tuner and mine. See the attached screenshot.

I have two digital tuners. PD does recognize the drivers, but doesn't work/can't scan channels or anything. I have owned several digital tuners since PD9 and PD has never worked with any of them. Intel i7 4770k, 16GB, GTX1060 3GB, Two 240GB SSD, 4TB HD, Sony HDR-TD20V 3D camcorder, Sony SLT-A65VK for still images, Windows 10 Pro, 64bit
Gary Russell -- TN USA

After seeing PD15 convert my first .wtv file, and being confronted with the message about different text streams, I think that JL_JL might be on to something.

I took a closer look (using media info) at the files generated by TotalMedia. There are at least two text streams in them!

So now I hypothesise that the reason PD breaks up my recorded files into two "scenes" at the 2 hoir mark is because there's too much data in the streams. (Which I think is what JL_JL suggested.)

I can't find a way to turn off stream capture in TM. Perhaps PD could offer the option to ignore/delete streams on import?