Quote Hi all,
Working with a 8mm home video to HARDDRIVE.

PD wont capture the film as it says copyright but its a family film - so i use a different s/w program.

The 8mm film is played and being saved as .AVI for a nice clear film - it plays good while capturing in .AVI saving mode - nice clear image ....... BUT ....... when played back through s/w or even PD10 i get this ZIP line wobbly finish.

Does this suggest that a old 8mm (20years etc) can not be saved in .AVI mode ?

Image below taken from PD still shot option.

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You are capturing interlaced, you are seeing the 2 fields. With the clip in the timeline right-click, go to Attributes and be sure you are top field first. A touch of Denoise may be helpful in the edit results. Produce the clip (or a section) and see if the issue persists in the final clip render.
Most software will flag visual noise as Macrovision, I am assuming you are capturing 8mm cassette and not reel to reel. HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
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Quote You are capturing interlaced, you are seeing the 2 fields. With the clip in the timeline right-click, go to Attributes and be sure you are top field first. A touch of Denoise may be helpful in the edit results. Produce the clip (or a section) and see if the issue persists in the final clip render.
Most software will flag visual noise as Macrovision, I am assuming you are capturing 8mm cassette and not reel to reel.

Hello Barry - yes - 8mm cassette - i have a section of footage im looking at - the footage was captured with s/w set as UPPER 1st ( i will be trying a section later with LOWER 1st).

I have right clicked but cant see what you mention in PD about UPPER 1st - i can see DENOISE so will trial DENOISE.

From the image here can you see what i should be clicking on to see if my PD is showing UPPER FIELD 1st ?

thank you for your views on this, regards andy windows 7 64bit - powerdirector 10 ultra 64bit

You are using PD9. Highlight the clip. Right mouse click/Set Tv Format and see the popup window. Attached is a screenshot on what you should see.

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The OP did not state the device used for capture. I think that you are right Barry. My pinnacle capture card in my W98 pc captured Top field first for analog video in both avi and mpg codecs 20 years ago.

At that time I preferred one of the Intel Indigo avi codecs not used today and requires a licence on the newer pc to use it.

If it's DV via firewire, it's a lossy codec, in NTSC, more forgiving if PAL. And as DV it is technically a transfer, not a capture.
IF...
you plan on restoring, all tape cassettes including DV should be captured as lossless HuffYUV AVI, using S-video connections, preferably , and if I recall, PD9 is 32 bit so all those codecs CAN be installed!
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Hi friends, im using PD10 and using ULEAD to capture my 8mm cassette film as PD10 will not capture the tape footage, it keeps saying copyright and will not allow to be transfered.

So using ULEAD, .5mm jack to 3x rca phono to my capture device - plays through ULEAD no problems, the imagery is great, but soon as i then open the file then to edit in ULEAD or even PD once transfered etc - i get the wazy zip type lines round imagery.

In ULEAD if i set to DVD mode then i dont get the wavy zip lines round the imagery.

I download the free 7day trial of Movavi which leaves a water mark then after 7 days it closes, and that did exactly the same, while the tape is playing into the pc - the footage is good - but soon as its capturred on pc - then you do a quick playback - you get the wavy zip line round images etc.


I will try what Tomasc mentioned and see what happens - looking at ULEAD - its WINDOWS AVI and not DV - DV AVI is a option in the ULEAD programme.

So its back to running short 10min clips in different formats for testing.

Thank you for your input upto now folks. windows 7 64bit - powerdirector 10 ultra 64bit

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So using ULEAD, .5mm jack to 3x rca phono to my capture device - plays through ULEAD no problems, the imagery is great, but soon as i then open the file then to edit in ULEAD or even PD once transfered etc - i get the wazy zip type lines round imagery.

In ULEAD if i set to DVD mode then i dont get the wavy zip lines round the imagery.

I will try what Tomasc mentioned and see what happens - looking at ULEAD - its WINDOWS AVI and not DV - DV AVI is a option in the ULEAD programme.

So its back to running short 10min clips in different formats for testing.

Thank you for your input upto now folks.

Are you capturing NTSC or PAL? Be sure it's all working in the same standard.
Those "zip lines" are aliasing from the 2 interlaced fields. The MPEG2 DVD file is heavily processed/compressed using mathematical hocus pocus, it's still interlaced. It's a fine file unless you plan on fixing colors and stabilize, etc, then you will have to re-render a file and that will be a second generation compression. Little by little you are losing color fidelity and detail from an already crappy format. HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
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