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How to export in HEVC h.265 10 bit.
hidaven [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Sep 03, 2018 16:29 Messages: 5 Offline
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looks like HEVC only exports to 8 bit? Im importing at 10 bit, how do I export at 10 bit?
Also, is there any way to increase the bit rate higher past 138 MB per sec???
You need to make this happen or I need to go to Premiere.

Lastly, if I created a video using h.264, shouldnt the file size drop by half if I produce to h.265??? assuming I make no changes other than encoding in HEVC

Thanks

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JL_JL [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Location: Arizona, USA Joined: Oct 01, 2006 20:01 Messages: 6091 Offline
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Quote how do I export at 10 bit?
Not a feature with PD16, just import capable.

Quote Also, is there any way to increase the bit rate higher past 138 MB per sec???
I assume you mean Mbps, as in little "b", not currently a feature of PD16.

Quote Lastly, if I created a video using h.264, shouldnt the file size drop by half if I produce to h.265??? assuming I make no changes other than encoding in HEVC
Will be half the filesize if you use half the bitrate, (Mbps), if you use same bitrate, same size, as should be, your telling the encoder to maintain XX Mbps so the end file will be the same size, just different quality.

Jeff
hidaven [Avatar]
Newbie Joined: Sep 03, 2018 16:29 Messages: 5 Offline
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Ah, thanks Jeff. 2 more.

If I can only produce or output in 8 bit, should I just stop recording in 10 bit? Or do I gain something still by recording in 10 bit even though I have to down convert to 8 bit?

lastly, So if I encode or produce in HEVC, are you saying that I can lower the bit rate to half of the Mbps (100) I recorded in and still maintain the same quality? Im a bit confused as I recorded at 100Mbps which was the rate of HEVC on the DJI Mavic 2 pro which is supposed to be half of H.264. Im thinking that the downsize already occured in the recording rate of HEVC and that I should produce at the same 100Mbps to keep things equivelent.




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Not a feature with PD16, just import capable.


I assume you mean Mbps, as in little "b", not currently a feature of PD16.


Will be half the filesize if you use half the bitrate, (Mbps), if you use same bitrate, same size, as should be, your telling the encoder to maintain XX Mbps so the end file will be the same size, just different quality.

Jeff
JL_JL [Avatar]
Senior Contributor Location: Arizona, USA Joined: Oct 01, 2006 20:01 Messages: 6091 Offline
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Quote If I can only produce or output in 8 bit, should I just stop recording in 10 bit? Or do I gain something still by recording in 10 bit even though I have to down convert to 8 bit?
I always like to record in the best setting my cameras offer, especially if it's stuff I plan to keep, family, friends, .... so on. Can't ever go back and capture again, software and playback will usually catch up eventually. Who knows, 10 bit produce might even be supported in PD17 when released within a few weeks most likely.

Quote So if I encode or produce in HEVC, are you saying that I can lower the bit rate to half of the Mbps (100) I recorded in and still maintain the same quality? Im a bit confused as I recorded at 100Mbps which was the rate of HEVC on the DJI Mavic 2 pro which is supposed to be half of H.264. Im thinking that the downsize already occured in the recording rate of HEVC and that I should produce at the same 100Mbps to keep things equivelent.
As mentioned, I'd always record at the best the camera has to offer. Down sampling during video production of high quality source video usually results in better quality than recording at the same levels. Between H.264 and H.265, the bitrate reduction is really unique to each individual on what their eyes sees as the same quality. It also depends on playback equipment and type of video content too. Often that break point for most is about 60% of the bitrate. This thread and a few users perspectives of quality might be of interest https://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/40564.page#post_box_209419

100Mbps H.264 will be the same files size as 100Mbps H.265, the difference will be the user perceived playback quality.

Jeff
Eugen157
Senior Contributor Location: Palm Springs area, So.CA Joined: Dec 10, 2012 13:57 Messages: 662 Offline
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I always like to record in the best setting my cameras offer, especially if it's stuff I plan to keep, family, friends, .... so on. Can't ever go back and capture again, software and playback will usually catch up eventually. Who knows, 10 bit produce might even be supported in PD17 when released within a few weeks most likely.


As mentioned, I'd always record at the best the camera has to offer. Down sampling during video production of high quality source video usually results in better quality than recording at the same levels. Between H.264 and H.265, the bitrate reduction is really unique to each individual on what their eyes sees as the same quality. It also depends on playback equipment and type of video content too. Often that break point for most is about 60% of the bitrate. This thread and a few users perspectives of quality might be of interest https://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/40564.page#post_box_209419

100Mbps H.264 will be the same files size as 100Mbps H.265, the difference will be the user perceived playback quality.

Jeff


That was interesting reading down memory lane Jeff.

Could not find any HEVC material then. Now I burn all to HEVC10 bit at 60Mb on UHD BR.. Unfortunately my original material is still 8 bit, the AX100 is still hard to beat. That UHD CREATOR burnig software came just in time.

Regards

Eugene
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