Project won't fit on DVD

roryjr

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Dec 23, 2017 20:53

Power Director says my project is 2 hours and 45 minutes long. I am using a dual layer DVD which says it will hold 240 minutes. 2 hours is 120 minutes plus 45 minutes is 165 minutes. But every time I try to make the DVD, PD says that the file is around 4 GB too big to fit on the DVD. I take it to the lowest quality and it makes not difference. Help.

Edit. And how did Legacy Box get way more video than this on a DVD? I could not find any mention of triple layer DVDs. The VHS tapes that I sent in were apparently recorded on the 6 hour setting. I cut the extra off the end (a long track of blue screen) to get to the above time.

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PepsiMan

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Dec 23, 2017 21:45

welcome to the forum.

Quote ... PD says that the file is around 4 GB too big to fit on the DVD. ...

this tells me you didn't scroll down on the DvD size to 8.5GB! and make sure your DvD writer can write and read DvD-/+R DL.

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roryjr

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Dec 23, 2017 22:17

I did scroll to 8.5. It still claims it is too big. I saw another topic where someone mentioned that these dual layer dvds will only hold about 2 hours. If that's true, then it sucks because the DVD itself says 240 minutes.

BarryTheCrab

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Dec 23, 2017 22:36

One can use Smartfit to squeeze more video on a disc. Also keep in mind a video with muted colors, low sound, and little action, will chew up less Mb than a colorful fast-action video with a honkin' soundtrack. HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
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roryjr

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Dec 23, 2017 22:46

I used smartfit on one that was an hour and 5 minutes for a single layer DVD. Most of it was fine, but there was a short part with horrible motion blur. I just got the dual layer DVDs a day or two ago. I'm still trying to understand how LegacyBox fit a 6 hour videotape on one DVD. It looks like I'll just have to burn these on bluray discs. They are very old, low quality VHS videos and I don't think most of my older relatives have bluray players and I hate to waste blurays on such low quality video. I hope I can get the number of copies that I had planned in time for Christmas.

BarryTheCrab

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Dec 23, 2017 22:52

Very expensive equipment and commercial codecs and lowering the bitrate (smartfit-like), that's how. Get a few DVD-DL-RW for testing, I'll bet Smartfit will work fine, seeing as you aren't gong wildly over the stated limits of DVD-DL. HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
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BarryTheCrab

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Dec 23, 2017 22:54

Another thing, if it's VHS it's 4:3, are you using 4:3 mode or are you placing the 4:3 video into a 16:9 project? Widescreen eats up more Mb. HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
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PepsiMan

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Dec 23, 2017 23:00

thanks Barry. got my example. roryjr, here it is.
when the project exceeds what the DvD -/+ R DL could hold, meaning eventhough project size is 2hrs 45 mins, you'll get the warning message that it'll not fit. you must decide what you have to do...

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Filename	20171223 2146 36-1.mp4	Download
Description	using the Smartfit when the size exceeds the DvD DL
Filesize	2387 Kbytes
Downloaded:	366 time(s)

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roryjr

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Dec 23, 2017 23:26

Barry, I'm going to try the smart fit and changing to 4:3 tomorrow. I did a preliminary and it made it fit. I don't have DVD-RWs so I'll just have to use a DVD+R DL and hope for the best. Thanks to everyone that tried to help.

PepsiMan

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Dec 23, 2017 23:31

Quote Barry, I'm going to try the smart fit and changing to 4:3 tomorrow. I did a preliminary and it made it fit. I don't have DVD-RWs so I'll just have to use a DVD+R DL and hope for the best. Thanks to everyone that tried to help.

yeah, look at my example. took some time to make it.

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SoNic67

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Dec 24, 2017 08:49

Quote Barry, I'm going to try the smart fit and changing to 4:3 tomorrow. I did a preliminary and it made it fit. I don't have DVD-RWs so I'll just have to use a DVD+R DL and hope for the best. Thanks to everyone that tried to help.

Don't forget to select the Audio as "DolbyDigital", even for 2 channels. Uncompressed audio as LPCM eats up a lot of space. Also DTS gives better quality than DD, but is not decoded by all the TV's (so it require an external receiver).
Also, I am not sure that 16:9 format takes more space. If it is anamorfic WS, then it should use the same space; however I didn't make a DVD in PD16 so... I don't know.

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BarryTheCrab

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Dec 24, 2017 09:25

Quote

Quote Barry, I'm going to try the smart fit and changing to 4:3 tomorrow. I did a preliminary and it made it fit. I don't have DVD-RWs so I'll just have to use a DVD+R DL and hope for the best. Thanks to everyone that tried to help.

Don't forget to select the Audio as "DolbyDigital", even for 2 channels. Uncompressed audio as LPCM eats up a lot of space. Also DTS gives better quality than DD, but is not decoded by all the TV's (so it require an external receiver).
Also, I am not sure that 16:9 format takes more space. If it is anamorfic WS, then it should use the same space; however I didn't make a DVD in PD16 so... I don't know.

Nice to see you popping in, Sonic. Merry Christmas.

SoNic67

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Dec 24, 2017 16:32

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Nice to see you popping in, Sonic. Merry Christmas.

I was busy with work/travel... Didn't have time to play anymore, except that I have upgraded to PD16.
Merry Christmas to everyone!

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