GPU utilization by CyberLink, AMD vs Nvidia?

kuhlmanck

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Sep 08, 2017 14:41

I have an opportunity to get an excellent deal on a i7-7500U laptop. There are two models, at the same price; one with an nvidia 940m and the other with an AMD R7 M440. The AMD laptop has DDR4 memory, the Nvidia laptop has DDR3. Otherwise they're identical.

With PowerDirector 15 and the current state of the Nvidia and AMD drivers, which of the two GPUs, AMD or Nvidia, are likely to be more effectively used?

I'm one of the ones who have never, ever seen Cyberlink utilize my current Nviaia GPU (an older 840M). Searching the forums, I read far more comments about problems getting Nvidia GPUs running in Power Director than I see AMD-related posts.

I don't care which GPU is 'better'

. Pretty much only care which one is better utilized by PowerDiretor.

Thanks.

BikerDave1

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Sep 11, 2017 00:22

Try this out for size: https://www.cyberlink.com/stat/technology/enu/new/tech_acceleration.jsp

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Carl312

Senior Contributor Location: Texas, USA Joined: Mar 16, 2010 20:11 Messages: 9090 Offline

Sep 11, 2017 14:13

It depends on the model of the video card and the driver software. Newer video cards have much more capability.

There are differences in what video formats are supported on which brand of Video Card.

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BarryTheCrab

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Sep 11, 2017 19:25

I am no expert on such matters, but I have read here that laptops with certain configurations cannot "properly" utilize their various graphics cards within PD. Bios issues, some of which can be worked around, apparently. Not sure what you should search for here, but there are answers.

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kuhlmanck

Newbie Joined: Jan 10, 2017 14:31 Messages: 20 Offline

Sep 12, 2017 15:34

Thanks Barry, Carl. Your answers are certainly more useful than a web link to sales literature ;-(

Anyway, that's about what I've found searching. Was hoping that someone (Cyberlink, hello out there, anone home??!!) would have finally figured out what's up with AMD vs Nvidia on laptop platforms, driver versions, etc.

A poorly working or totally inop laptop AMD/Nvidia will always be outperformed by an Intel IGP. But since high-end 7th gen i7 laptops nearly always come with a GPU, it would have made sense to go for the GPU with the most real-world potential.

BarryTheCrab

Senior Contributor Location: USA Joined: Nov 06, 2008 22:18 Messages: 6240 Offline

Sep 12, 2017 16:29

Perhaps a go at the Nvidia user forum would be a worthy pursuit. The two most knowledgeable people in such matters no longer come here. JL_JL and Sonic.

You might to search here for Optimus and bios, and laptop refunds. HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
Nvidia GTX 960(4GB)/16GB DDR3/
Canon Vixia HV30/HF-M40/HF-M41/HF-G20/Olympus E-PL5.
Tape capture using 6 VCR, TBC-1000, Elite BVP4+, Sony D8 camcorder with TBC.
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BikerDave1

Newbie Location: USA Joined: Jul 21, 2017 14:23 Messages: 14 Offline

Sep 15, 2017 19:21

Let's get real here. The difference you will see in a GPU on a laptop will be nothing to even talk about. It won't even be on the radar! Negligable at best even in the most extreme/optimized/greatest driver configuration.

Get a serious desktop computer with a multi-core CPU and some serious CUDA power on the GPU and then we can talk.

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GGRussell

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Sep 15, 2017 22:09

I have a Sager laptop i7 7700HQ with GTX 1060 6GB RAM. Could easily replace my aging desktop with i7 4770k GTX1060. If you're willing to spend the money, there are plenty of higher end laptops can can out perform most desktops.

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Intel i7 4770k, 16GB, GTX1060 3GB, Two 240GB SSD, 4TB HD, Sony HDR-TD20V 3D camcorder, Sony SLT-A65VK for still images, Windows 10 Pro, 64bit
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BikerDave1

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Sep 16, 2017 15:14

Oh Brother! Your CPU is ranked 87th per CPU Benchmarks (http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700HQ-vs-Intel-Core-i7-6700HQ/m211019vsm34954 I am NOT shaking in my boots! But to be fair, ALL laptop CPU's are WAY BELOW Desktop CPU Benchmarks contrary to what Laptop manufacturers will have you believe! And to render 4K on a Laptop would be Laptop suicide. Better have a fire extinquiser handy! Sorry for the reality check. It is what it is.

Quote I have a Sager laptop i7 7700HQ with GTX 1060 6GB RAM. Could easily replace my aging desktop with i7 4770k GTX1060. If you're willing to spend the money, there are plenty of higher end laptops can can out perform most desktops.

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GGRussell

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Sep 16, 2017 20:54

That link was for the 6700HQ NOT the 7700HQ. At least get it correct.

I have no problem editing 4k on my laptop. Reality check! And it has great cooling system. THink you need to brush up on your laptop technology. Stop being such a desktop snob.

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Intel i7 4770k, 16GB, GTX1060 3GB, Two 240GB SSD, 4TB HD, Sony HDR-TD20V 3D camcorder, Sony SLT-A65VK for still images, Windows 10 Pro, 64bit
Gary Russell -- TN USA

BikerDave1

Newbie Location: USA Joined: Jul 21, 2017 14:23 Messages: 14 Offline

Sep 16, 2017 21:34

DUDE! CHILL

The link is a comparo between your 87th place chip and another of comparible speed. It says it all over the link if you actually LOOK at the link and then click on it. But I am done with you. This is my last post to you. Get a grip Dude. Take a chill pill. If you think Laptops are faster than Desktops then you don't deserve talking to me!!

Quote That link was for the 6700HQ NOT the 7700HQ. At least get it correct.

I have no problem editing 4k on my laptop. Reality check! And it has great cooling system. THink you need to brush up on your laptop technology. Stop being such a desktop snob.

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PepsiMan

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Sep 17, 2017 10:43

Quote I have an opportunity to get an excellent deal on a i7-7500U laptop... Nvidia GPUs ...is better utilized by PowerDiretor. Thanks.

PD favors Intel & nVidia than AMD! besides AMD doesn't fully utilize available memory that well...

however, your pain level is high. read this thread.

New PC for video editing; advice sought.

happy happy joy joy

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