Hi Brent,

Sony had a habit of doing things their way.

So I-link was their implementation of firewire. I recall that the composite jack was also a non-standard but that will need checking.

The s-video was standard I think.

I use a cheap and cheerful usb dongle from ebay, cost half nothing, has composite and s-video inputs and works fine for me from both camcorder and vhs players (via composite or with scart adapter) capturing direct to PD15.

I know some folk have had trouble with them but I've had a couple and they worked fine - even with old rubbish vhs tapes and with commercially done film to vhs transfer tapes.

If all else fails it's worth a look at.

Cheers

Adrian Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated. (see below)
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Quote Hi Brent,

Sony had a habit of doing things their way.

So I-link was their implementation of firewire. I recall that the composite jack was also a non-standard but that will need checking.

The s-video was standard I think.

I use a cheap and cheerful usb dongle from ebay, cost half nothing, has composite and s-video inputs and works fine for me from both camcorder and vhs players (via composite or with scart adapter) capturing direct to PD15.

I know some folk have had trouble with them but I've had a couple and they worked fine - even with old rubbish vhs tapes and with commercially done film to vhs transfer tapes.

If all else fails it's worth a look at.

Cheers

Adrian

Thanks Adrian

Oft times the Confucious saying applies to me so your input lessens the impact.

I think I have ordered the i-link cable you mentioned and should get it in a few days. The USB dongle you mentioned from eBay, does it have a model / part # I can reference? I gather that the "dongle" is a multi connector? I said one of my posts that I know enough to know that I know nothing and this is one of those times.

Thanks for the input

Brent

Try this :

Easiercap

On ebay - I'm on the phone so the link might not work!?

Cheers

Adrian

EDIT: Link should work now. Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated. (see below)
Confucius
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This is my LAST attempt to post this answer as I'm getting absolutely FED UP with cutting and pasting my reply, only to see the post fail to save properly.

In relation to the Costco option of transferring the content to a DVD data disc:If AVI, the file would have to be compressed to fit on the disc. AVI files are HUGE! A typical AVI of a short, say, one-and-a-half minute clip will weigh in at well over 7 gigabytes, well beyond the capacity of a single-layer 4.7Gb disc and I don't see any company offering such a service using DVD+ or -R DL discs, they'd want to keep costs down. Thus they would have to use a method similar to that where internet-downloaded feature movies are compressed to a file size of around 650-700 Mb(a facility I've wanted but could never get a hold of so I gave up trying). In the meantime, Brent, have you yet solved your hook-up problem between your camera and computer?

Quote A typical AVI of a short, say, one-and-a-half minute clip will weigh in at well over 7 gigabytes,

Dont' know what camcorder or software you have used, but the Sony TRV series, the AVI is 13GB PER HOUR. Intel i7 4770k, 16GB, GTX1060 3GB, Two 240GB SSD, 4TB HD, Sony HDR-TD20V 3D camcorder, Sony SLT-A65VK for still images, Windows 10 Pro, 64bit
Gary Russell -- TN USA

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Quote I think there are i-link to "other" connections, such as external devices with i-link in and USB or HDMI out, but I have not ever tried them. If you get set up at some point, I am under the impression that your camera can be used as a PASS THRU device, meaning it can be used to digitize media from analog devices such as VCR or older non digital 8 cameras.

Can use Composite IN to the camcorder can go OUT the firewire to computer. There is no HDMI on the camcorder and USB was only 640x480 plus it won't work with Win 8 or 10 at all. There is an SVideo connection but I've never used it. Not sure if it is IN or OUT or both. Composite to firewire works really well though.

Brent - yes, there is a composite/audio dongle and can be used for video/audio in or out. Not sure if your model has the larger SVideo port which on the end on my TRV740.

GGR - Your comment abput Windows 8 or 10 won't work slipped by me. I have Windows 8.1 on my HP Envy bought last year. I guess that means this camera using PD 15 won't work?

FYI - Temporarily, I was happy today when I received my Sony firewire but alas, it was not meant to be. PD 15,13 and 9 won't recognize the camera either.

I do have HDMI port on my laptop. I seem to recall seeing a cable with HDMI / Sony firewire at a store. Could that be used? Or does Windows 8.1 pose the problem?



Thanks

Brent

Quote ...I received my Sony firewire but alas, it was
not meant to be. PD 15,13 and 9 won't recognize the camera either.I
do have HDMI port on my laptop. I seem to recall seeing a cable with
HDMI / Sony firewire at a store.

... Brent

only thing comes to my mind at this time is if your pc recognizes the sony cam then use Windows Movie Maker

to capture your videos. after capture put it into powerdirector of your choice and cook some delicioso...

p.s.

WinDV and VirtualDub will capture, too.



i think i'm hungry...

happy happy joy joy

PepsiMan

'garbage in garbage out' 'no bridge too far'

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Quote GGR - Your comment abput Windows 8 or 10 won't work slipped by me. I have Windows 8.1 on my HP Envy bought last year. I guess that means this camera using PD 15 won't work?

FYI - Temporarily, I was happy today when I received my Sony firewire but alas, it was not meant to be. PD 15,13 and 9 won't recognize the camera either.

That cable won’t work. That question was answered before in the forums. See this article on that: https://www.videomaker.com/community/forums/topic/do-firewire-to-usb-adapters-work . The answer is given at the bottom of the article.

See this earlier post for a possible solution: http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/50928.page#267622 . The device mentioned in the video is available used at a premium price and may not work with windows 10.

Bottom line is that you need to buy an old pc with firewire if you have a lot of dv tapes to transfer or get someone else like a college student computer major who need extra money to do it for you.

This entire thread is getting ridiculous, and I helped.

Carl answered this in the first response, now we are at 2 pages. I bought a Vantec firewire card and with no tech skills at all I installed in my Windows 10 tower and was capturing HDV all in under 20 minutes. Just be sure you have a fw cable that matches the camera and the card. RCA cables reduce quality. End of story. HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
Nvidia GTX 960(4GB)/16GB DDR3/
Canon Vixia HV30/HF-M40/HF-M41/HF-G20/Olympus E-PL5.
Tape capture using 6 VCR, TBC-1000, Elite BVP4+, Sony D8 camcorder with TBC.
https://www.facebook.com/BarryAFTT

Quote This entire thread is getting ridiculous, and I helped.

Carl answered this in the first response, now we are at 2 pages. I bought a Vantec firewire card and with no tech skills at all I installed in my Windows 10 tower and was capturing HDV all in under 20 minutes. Just be sure you have a fw cable that matches the camera and the card. RCA cables reduce quality. End of story.

Brent E last response was today so he is still grasping straws to try to get it to work. According to sony esupport usb streaming is not available for win 8 and above. Granted that he had all the resources to find the solution himself. The ideas from all the contributors here I’m sure will lead him to the solution that doesn’t cost him too much money balanced against quality. On one end is the usb dongles and the other is firewire for original quality.

There doesn't appear to be any windows 10 compatible firewire cards made for his laptop.

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Quote A typical AVI of a short, say, one-and-a-half minute clip will weigh in at well over 7 gigabytes,

Dont' know what camcorder or software you have used, but the Sony TRV series, the AVI is 13GB PER HOUR.

I was using Power Director 14 Ultra, and tried(as an experiment) to save a short clip as AVI. The clip was about a minute, 45 or so seconds. I was shocked and quite disgusted when I saw how large the file size was. It came in at well over 8 gigabytes. That was enough to put me right off AVI.

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Quote ...I received my Sony firewire but alas, it was
not meant to be. PD 15,13 and 9 won't recognize the camera either.I
do have HDMI port on my laptop. I seem to recall seeing a cable with
HDMI / Sony firewire at a store.

... Brent

only thing comes to my mind at this time is if your pc recognizes the sony cam then use Windows Movie Maker

to capture your videos. after capture put it into powerdirector of your choice and cook some delicioso...

p.s.

WinDV and VirtualDub will capture, too.



i think i'm hungry...

happy happy joy joy

PepsiMan

'garbage in garbage out'

I think PepsiMan has come up with the solution here! May appear to be a round-about excercise but if the laptop appears to recognise your camera via what connection you want to use, then capturing the content via the Windows Movie Maker and saving it as an MP4 file which can then be imported to PD15(or earlier) for the final editing.

Take a bow, PepsiMan!

I'm laughing at myself for going on here...if he's got an old vcr with firewire in...then

The camera is connected to the firewire, aaaand the firewire is connected to the vcr, aaaand the vcr is connected to the RCA or s-video or whatever cable can fit both vcr and laptop, aaaaand that's the way it goes.

I'm just saying the vcr can be used as a digitizer. HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
Nvidia GTX 960(4GB)/16GB DDR3/
Canon Vixia HV30/HF-M40/HF-M41/HF-G20/Olympus E-PL5.
Tape capture using 6 VCR, TBC-1000, Elite BVP4+, Sony D8 camcorder with TBC.
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I'm just saying the vcr can be used as a digitizer.

.....And that's a useful idea as well! Cheers, Barry!

Quote I'm laughing at myself for going on here...if he's got an old vcr with firewire in...then

The camera is connected to the firewire, aaaand the firewire is connected to the vcr, aaaand the vcr is connected to the RCA or s-video or whatever cable can fit both vcr and laptop, aaaaand that's the way it goes.

I'm just saying the vcr can be used as a digitizer.

Thanks Barry

You have been very tolerant of my lack of knowledge and it is appreciated. I promise, if our paths ever cross in a bar / restaurant I am buying you the beverage(s) of you favorite choosing.

Brent

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Quote

I'm just saying the vcr can be used as a digitizer.

.....And that's a useful idea as well! Cheers, Barry!

Neil

As I have told all the contributors, you have been very tolerant of my lack of knowledge. It is greatly appreciated. If our paths ever cross in in a bar / restaurant, I am buying you the beverage(s) of your choice.



Thanks

Brent

Quote Brent - the cable wouldn't help if you don't have firewire port on your laptop. Your only choices would be Neil's - analog capture from the composite/audio output or As you stated - Costco.

If you take the tape to Costco, see if they will burn the AVI files to a data disc - NOT burn to video DVD. That way to have the raw AVI files directly from the camcorder.

GGR - As I have told all the contributors, you have been very tolerant of my lac of knowledge and it is greatly appreciated. If our paths ever cross in a bar / restaurant, I will buy you the beverage(s) of your choice



Thanks

Brent

Quote Hi Brent,

Sony had a habit of doing things their way.

So I-link was their implementation of firewire. I recall that the composite jack was also a non-standard but that will need checking.

The s-video was standard I think.

I use a cheap and cheerful usb dongle from ebay, cost half nothing, has composite and s-video inputs and works fine for me from both camcorder and vhs players (via composite or with scart adapter) capturing direct to PD15.

I know some folk have had trouble with them but I've had a couple and they worked fine - even with old rubbish vhs tapes and with commercially done film to vhs transfer tapes.

If all else fails it's worth a look at.

Cheers

Adrian

Thanks Adrian

As I have told all the contributors, you have been very tolerant of my lack of knowledge and it is greatly appreciated. If our paths ever crosss in a bar / Restaurant, I am buying you beverage(s) of your chosing.



Thanks

Brent

Quote

Quote ...I received my Sony firewire but alas, it was
not meant to be. PD 15,13 and 9 won't recognize the camera either.I
do have HDMI port on my laptop. I seem to recall seeing a cable with
HDMI / Sony firewire at a store.

... Brent

only thing comes to my mind at this time is if your pc recognizes the sony cam then use Windows Movie Maker

to capture your videos. after capture put it into powerdirector of your choice and cook some delicioso...

p.s.

WinDV and VirtualDub will capture, too.



i think i'm hungry...

happy happy joy joy

PepsiMan

'garbage in garbage out'

Thanks Pepsi Man

As I have said to the other contributors, you have been very tolerant of my lack of knowledge and it is fgreatly appreciated. If our paths ever cross in a bar / restaurant, I will buy you beverage)s) of you choosing.

Thanks

Brent

Quote Your Dxdiag.txt file does report any Firewire connection/card.

You need to connect that camera via a Firewire connection. You need a Firewire card for your computer and a cable to connect the camera.

https://esupport.sony.com/US/p/model-home.pl?mdl=DCRTRV350&LOC=3#/howtoTab

Thanks Barry

As I have told the other contributors, you have been very tolerant of my lack of knowledge and it is greatly appreciated, So, if our paths ever cross in a bar / rstaurant, I wil buy you beverage(s) of your choosing.

Thanks

Brent

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Quote

Quote

I'm just saying the vcr can be used as a digitizer.

.....And that's a useful idea as well! Cheers, Barry!

Neil

As I have told all the contributors, you have been very tolerant of my lack of knowledge. It is greatly appreciated. If our paths ever cross in in a bar / restaurant, I am buying you the beverage(s) of your choice.



Thanks

Brent

Hi, Brent!

Nice offer. I assume you're in the USA, I'm here in Australia, but if you ever visit Australia and find your way to the Port Stephens region, it would be good to meet a fellow forum member.

Cheers!

Neil.