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PDR 13 Overwrites existing video
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Quote: Why, Neil, would I ask you? The OP is the person who is having unusual editing behavior...I didn't think it was necessary to narrow the field.


Barry!

When you posed the question, you did not specify to whom you aimed it. Without identifying the intended recipient, anyone could've chimed in on this thread., Come to think of it, might've been an idea to send Scandinerdian a PM.

Cheers!

Neil.

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BarryTheCrab
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A private message to the OP does little to help others. So, I ask Scandinerdian, and ONLY Scandinerdian, what file types are you using? HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
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Hello, Barry!

What I was getting at was that your post of 22/05/2016 19:19:44 was not directly addressing Scandinerdian. As you see by my opening in this post, I'm directly addressing you. If I open with "Hi, All" or "Hello All", means I'm aiming my post at anyone who cares to jump in on the post. If I reply to a given OP, I'll address my post to the person who created it. I don't wish to nit-pick or sound pedantic, but the above is the only way I can get my point across. I certainly do not want to cause offence.

Cheers!

Neil.
ynotfish
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Hi Scandinerdian -

In an earlier versions of PDR (12 or 13), I had something similar happening in Menu Preferences. I would replace (say) a blue menu bacground with (say) a pink one, then save the template. Next time I selected that menu template, it had a blue background. Like there was a ghost in the system.

At the time, I resolved it with a complete uninstall/reinstall. It sounds like you have a similar corruption, & the same solution may be necessary.

Here's the pop-up to which Mike (Fenman) referred - when you insert a clip



... though I can't see that it relates to the OP's problem, which is...

You see at random intervalls the program descides to replace a clip in the timeline with another one. It may ever replace it with one not even in the timeline although imported into the project. The wierd thing, that indicates that my clumpsy fingers are not
to blame, is that the correct clip is represented in the timeline even though it plays back another one! It almost seems like it has nothing to do with what is graphically represented on screen, since it continues to play back the wrong clip even though the clip in the timeline has already ended.


Neil - you wrote: "I dropped a clip in between two others and got a similar situation" Similar to what? Did you get the pop-up option? Did you select Insert & Move All Clips? Did it work? or are you implying that your PDR was doing strange things like the OP's? Please clarify briefly.

Cheers - Tony

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...........sighs..... I see the 'zoo' continues!? lol

My avatar isn't me either but I am considering changing it to a nice fish 'a$$' soon!

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Quote:

Neil - you wrote: "I dropped a clip in between two others and got a similar situation" Similar to what? Did you get the pop-up option? Did you select Insert & Move All Clips? Did it work? or are you implying that your PDR was doing strange things like the OP's? Please clarify briefly.

P.S. Honesty Disclosure: My avatar isn't really me.


Tony, I thought what I said would be axiomatic(self-evident). I drop a clip in between two others, let's give them numbers to make the explanation easier, I have clips 1 and 2(with other clips following on the timeline), I want to drop a new clip into #2's spot which should push #2 out to a #3 position on the timeline. I'm thinking this may have something to do with how many clips are on the timeline after what is now #3. If, as I assume, there are more clips after #3, then perhaps when the new #2 clip is inserted, instead of shoving the original #2 out to #3(and so on down the line), instead, overwrites it, but the pop-up options list to insert, overwrite, crossfade or replace etc. does not appear as it should. This happened once but hasn't happened since(in PD14 Ultra). It may have been an anomaly. That's as best I can explain my meaning.

By the way, I'd already sussed out that your avatar isn't really you!smile

Cheers!

Neil.
ynotfish
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Neil (an indication that this is addressed to Neil only) -

I think I'm playing leapfrog with a unicorn, here. I shouldn't waste forum space by responding, but what a load of codswallop.

So - you use words like axiomatic (which actually means "generally believed to be true" rather than "self-evident") BUT you don't understand the word "briefly". If you consider yourself to be a pedant, and want to correct others, you'd better make sure you get it right yourself.

You completely insult the intelligence of your fellow forum members by posting a waffling explanation of something that occurred only once (apparently). Give us a break man! You said you "got a similar situation". What you just described is NOTHING like the OP's circumstance. NOTHING.

Read the first post again. Though he used the word "overwrite" what he meant was that the video playback was NOT what was in the timeline.

I just put over 200 clips in the 3 tracks with a total duration of over an hour and EVERY time I went to insert a clip on ANY track I got the pop-up I posted previously. EVERY time.

I'm quite sure the OP has left in disgust, if he/she is any kind of judge of the level of discussion. Very little has been offered to help resolve the issue.

Go on - off you go - do your post about agreeing to disagree.

Yours affectionately - Grumpy laughing

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The Shadowman
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Tony, how can you be so hard on somebody, especially a fellow senior contributor, with the experience of 1085 messages? Shame on youinnocent

Robert

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Others can try and lie but no one can replace Tony. Not even you Robert with 686 messages. I would trust Tony’s response before I trust any answer from you both. Think all the contributors in this forum feel the same way. sealed
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Blimey Tomas it was only a joke hence the emoticon. Nice to know how you think though

Robert Panny TM10, GH2, GH4,
ynotfish
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My apologies that the above reponse came across as being "personal". It was intended as a statement about the quality of argument, rather than any reflection on another member.

Admittedly, I get a bit cheesed off when posts are rambling, unrelated & less than factual. All they do is muddy the waters, rather than provide clarity. I get really cheesed off when posts are condescending. I can cope with misuse of the language BUT not when the "misuser" is criticising others for similar things.

Members here do their best, I guess, to pose their issues accurately or respond in a way that leads to some resolution but some posts in this thread are a long way from that.

I'm not judge & jury, and I do feel a bit embarrassed about "not keeping my mouth shut" (not quite "shame", Robert).

Cheers - Tony

Obviously, this poor old thread is a long way off topic. It's not difficult to locate the statements that took it there. undecided

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The Shadowman
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Well, Tony

I thought that you, especially, would see through what I was trying to say. Over 1000 messages, and how many of them were constructive?

I'm disappointed at tomasc for his response which was uncalled for and insulting. I may have only imputed 600 odd messages, but the vast majority helped people in some way. If everybody else on the forum feels the same way, as he states, I'd better sign off.

Tony, if you didn't see my humour, l'm very sorry. Panny TM10, GH2, GH4,
ynotfish
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Hi Robert -

Your tongue-in-cheek statement was read (here) just as you intended. I understood the humour of it perfectly well... just as I had no doubt that Barry - http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/48502.page#254195 - was asking the OP, not anyone else. All good.

Don't go signing off. Surely you've seen the impact of valued contributors "signing off" for various reasons - it leaves us with degraded quality of discussion &, I'm afraid on this occasion I've been part of that.

Henceforth, I'll keep my "off-topic chat" to PMs.

Cheers - Tony
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To Tony and anyone else who has added to this thread,

I did indeed read Scandinerdian's original post, In his first few words he wrote "at random intervalls the program descides to replace a clip in the timeline with another one", I took that as meaning he had a situation with "overwriting". or at least that's how it appeared to be to me. I tried my best to give an answer and stay "on-topic" but it seems no matter what I say, at times, I can do no right by anyone here. Sometimes it leads me to wonder why I ever bothered to join this forum "community" in the first place when some of my sincerest efforts to help appear to be rebuffed. Sometimes I feel like I should read only and not bother to reply to other posts.

I've now had my say. On this and other subjects(threads) that I've joined in, my attempts to stay "on-topic" or as near to the topic as I can, appear to be unappreciated by some others. It won't stop me posting, but as I write this, I feel more than a little "hacked off" by some replies I get.

Neil.
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Henceforth, I'll keep my "off-topic chat" to PMs.


PM sent.

Tony
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I have sent a PM to Scandinerdian with an apology for the way this thread went to becoming a giant stinkburger, and asking them to try again. It remains to be seen if the member does indeed return.
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I think I beat you to it Barry. I sent him one in the same vein yesterday with my take on his problem. Let's hope he rejoins the discussion. Regards,
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Keep calm and carry on.... folks. (ah... not an original)

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To all concerned,

I've replied to Tony(Ynotfish) via PM. I've said all I'm going to say on this thread so I'm backing off.

Neil.

(this is a re-post. A first attempt to post took far too long to save so I copied the text to clipboard and aborted the first attempt)
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The Shadowman – Waffling on this post to cause a 37 threads is not helpful to the OP. I am not amused to see this. Believed that it would be better and you not have hurt feelings if you simply stated what you claim. I am truly sorry that you feel bad but hopefully recovered by now. You should continue to answer users posts as you have been doing and we do see that your answers are good.

In another post you asked for a direct answer in which I gave you. If another user had responded and gave you a waffling answer then I know now to let it be. It is up to you to choose what you want to hear. On this post the contributors were annoyed by this waffling.

Let's hope that the OP returns to this forum.
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To all on this thread!

I think Scandinerdian feels his situation, as explained in his original post, has been drowned out by comments about avatars and recriminations over other posts. I just reviewed some of these posts and I see where things got a little off-track. In the 7th post after the OP, Mike(Fenman) referred to the "pop-up" about overwrite or insert options, in Post #8 I agreed with him and, as an aside(at the bottom of my post) I made a complimentary remark on Mike's new updated avatar. In Post#9 Carl McMillan(Carl312) suggested I get an avatar for my posts. In Post#10 I gave my reasons why I hadn't found one to suit, then got back to the subject as stated in the OP, the OP being Post #1, of course. After Post #10 "the fog rolled in" and Scandinerdian's OP got lost in all the other to-ing and fro-ing of this thread. I'd guess that he feels he's been ignored, given up and logged off. That's my summing up of this thread, for what it's worth.

Neil.
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