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Richmond Dan
Senior Contributor Location: Richmond, VA Joined: Aug 07, 2014 17:17 Messages: 673 Offline
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I just read a news article that says all users should uninstall Quicktime for Windows asap. Evidently Apple will no longer be updating it and it has two major security vulnerabilities. I'm ready to uninstall, but isn't it required for some parts of PowerDirector to function properly?

P.S. This isn't just rumor, this was PCWorld and other major tech publications.

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Dan
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tomasc [Avatar]
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PD14 will run without QuickTime and can be uninstalled. See this post from Longedge and the details in this thread: http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/48133.page .
ynotfish
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It's for real, Dan... Apple is no longer supporting QuickTime for Windows = no updates = security risk.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/04/14/uninstall_quicktime_for_windows/

surprised Apple is remaining pretty hush-hush about it, even though they were informed late in 2015 of "vulnerabilities".

I'll have to do some digging because, aside from PDR/SmartSound, I run quite a few Ad**e products that (as I understand it) require QuickTime. Guess I'll find out pretty soon!

Cheers - Tony

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Richmond Dan
Senior Contributor Location: Richmond, VA Joined: Aug 07, 2014 17:17 Messages: 673 Offline
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Interesting sidenote: I had a problem several weeks ago with intermittent audio in MOV files. CL provided me a free download of MediaEspresso, which I dutifully installed, to convert my MOV files to MP4. When I tried to use MediaEspresso, I got an error message. I contacted CL support and got the following response three days ago:

"Dear user,

Thank you for writing back.

In regards to your concern, I would like to inform that after checking, the MediaEspresso error message is suspected the compatible issue with the latest QuickTime version v7.7.9. We are clarifing the issue in the MediaExpresso team.

For the original PowerDirector issue, suggest you can use the freeware "HandBrake" to transcode the MOV to H.264 MP4 then editing in PowerDirector.

https://handbrake.fr/

Please feel free to contact us back for any further clarification or for any assistance related to CyberLink Products. Use the below mentioned link to get back to us for your further queries:

https://membership.cyberlink.com/support/service/technical-support.do

Thanks and Regards,

Abhinav
CyberLink Technical Support"

Converting my MOV files to MP4, using HandBrake, solved my original problem. Apparently, Apple products don't play well with others (they probably run with scissors, too).

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Dan
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ynotfish
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Consequence #1 foot-in-mouth



Cheers - Tony
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BarryTheCrab
Senior Contributor Location: USA Joined: Nov 06, 2008 22:18 Messages: 6240 Offline
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This is getting ugly, Cyberlink referred a customer away from a product they sell to a freeware. Seriously? And...I have been under the false impression PD would likely fall over without QT installed, but I'll never know because I have to use Smartsound.

edit: actually I do know, you folks told me, it (PD) will still work.

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I always said that I Apple crippled deliberately the QT for Windows, just to get people to buy their products later.
I am glad that we got here, at least we are not having confusion anymore about the MOV format - it was just a Trojan horse in Windows.
CS2014
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So...... what do we do?

Uninstall QT?

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BarryTheCrab
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Maybe a group of geniuses will form a group to keep QT updated for Windows...OK I'm reaching a little... HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
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Hi, all!

Thus far I've had no problems regarding QuickTime video, so I'll just watch & see what goes on. When I'm editing video, I usually work off-line anyway. I'm not a fan of Apple, much prefer Windows. If things get too out of hand, I might have to bite the bulet and bump QuickTime off my computer, I rarely, if ever, use SmartSound these days anyway, so what the heck...

Cheers!

Neil.
Richmond Dan
Senior Contributor Location: Richmond, VA Joined: Aug 07, 2014 17:17 Messages: 673 Offline
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Sounds to me as though we should uninstall QT, and convert MOV files to MP4 for editing, unless we must keep QT for SmartSound.

Before I do so, does anyone who knows have a better idea? Regards,
Dan
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Quote: Sounds to me as though we should uninstall QT, and convert MOV files to MP4 for editing, unless we must keep QT for SmartSound.

Before I do so, does anyone who knows have a better idea?


Like Richmond Dan, I too am waiting for someone to come up with this answer. While I said I rarely if ever use Smartsound, it is, nonetheless a resource one wouldn't want to totally scrap... but if push came to shove....

Cheers!

Neil
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Quote: When I'm editing video, I usually work off-line anyway.


Doesn't matter what you do with PowerDirector. QT will be always active in your PC. All a hacker would need is that your PC is turned on and connected to the net. You could be taking a shower for all he cares...

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Neil.F.1955 [Avatar]
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Quote:
Quote: When I'm editing video, I usually work off-line anyway.


Doesn't matter what you do with PowerDirector. QT will be always active in your PC. All a hacker would need is that your PC is turned on and connected to the net. You could be taking a shower for all he cares...


Hi, SoNic67!

When I say I'm working "off-line", it means I'm completely off-line! My modem dongle is unplugged from its USB port! I use a wireless modem which, to the average viewer, looks like an ordinary flash drive(thumb drive, as its called in America). I only go "on-line" when I choose to do so. Yes, Quicktime is active when I'm using my PC, but no hacker can get to me once I've closed my session, disconnected and unplugged that dongle. Unless he finds a way to sneak in through the 240-volt power supply! Highly unlikely, ay!

Cheers!

Neil.
ynotfish
Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Offline
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Neil -

Your concern for others' circumstances is staggering! undecided

Aside from SmartSound, PDR will run happily (as far as I've determined since uninstalling it earlier)... but some Windows software requires QuickTime to even function correctly!

I can see some potential litigation here. Millions of users of various bits of Windows based software will be left stranded. Microsoft appears to have remained faily quiet on the issue too.

Cheers - Tony
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BarryTheCrab
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I have a ticket into Smartsound Support concerning this very issue, Tony may have done that also, did you Tony? HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
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CS2014
Senior Contributor Location: USA-Eastern Time Zone Joined: Sep 16, 2014 16:44 Messages: 629 Offline
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This really does seem to be a much bigger issue than most that we 'quibble' about in here (just looked up quibble - ok... maybe I'm the quibbler, not rest rest of you folks-lol).

I hope PD/Cyberlink takes THIS seriously and jumps on this.

Time will tell I guess.

CS

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ynotfish
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Barry - no I didn't submit a support ticket to SmartSound, but as good as (wrote to Frank). It's news to SS as well! Even though SS won't run within PDR, SonicFire Pro functions perfectly because it's not based on QT. That's a little bit of good news for SmartSound users.

A couple of other things I've learned so far...


  • Apple has made no public announcement, as far as I'm aware. In fact, you can still download QT from a page with not a single warning - http://www.apple.com/au/quicktime/download/ I guess they've been too busy fighting the feds.

  • Microsoft & Apple were wrangling over the QT issue back in the late 90s!

  • Some features of some of my installed Ad**be products are now rendered useless. Example in attached screenshot. I believe After Effects & Edius are affected too.

  • MOV clips from GoPro & other cameras I've checked import and playback correctly in PDR laughing but not in GoPro Studio. MP4s are fine.

  • Apple's iTunes is unaffected in Windows when QT is uninstalled.


Cheers - Tony
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1Nina
Senior Contributor Location: Norway, 50km southwest of Oslo Joined: Oct 08, 2008 04:12 Messages: 1070 Offline
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So if this is real, millions of people having (expensive) software for Windows will be forced to go out and buy Apple computers and buy the softwares all over again.....?

Or - software companies will have to come up with replacement and re-write their programs....?

How likely is it?
Just something.
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ynotfish
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Hi Nina -

Yes & yes. I'd say the latter is the more likely... and it's already been happening for some time (I've learned).

Examples: SonicFire Pro - up till Version 4 - relied on Quicktime to function at all. Since version 5 it doesn't. iTunes used to require QT - now it doesn't (for audio or video).

I think similar things have been happening with web based media players that once relied on QT.

Appalling behaviour by Apple & there'll, no doubt, be consequences.

Cheers - Tony
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