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BarryTheCrab
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Does your old software actually give you a file that plays vertical on a modern phone?
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camner [Avatar]
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Quote: Does your old software actually give you a file that plays vertical on a modern phone?
Yes, I've tested it both on an iPad and an iPhone, and it plays just fine without the letterboxing in the example above.
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Hi, Tony!

The image you shot, as it presents itself on your computer screen, is indeed "portrait". Where you finally got it back onto your mobile phone, it's still portrait with those black "slabs" either side of it. For the purpose of the thread, you've not really failed at all, you've successfully proved what a lot of us have been saying about shooting video with these devices. As for the video software(Power Director 14), the Power Tools function that allows you to turn a video on its side(90 degrees), is somewhat limited and there's only so much that CLPV can or will do to correct the image.

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Neil.
ynotfish
Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Offline
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No - I wasn't trying to prove that at all - nor did my results indicate anything of the kind.

Still, if you're able to somehow link this topic "output dimensions" to perverts & child pornography I doubt that you'd take that in. Seriously over the top, Neil! foot-in-mouth

One thing we have proven conclusively here is that there is NO need for an "Off Topic Chat" thread. Members will do that easily with no formal structure!

Cheers - Tony
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Quote: No - I wasn't trying to prove that at all - nor did my results indicate anything of the kind.

Still, if you're able to somehow link this topic "output dimensions" to perverts & child pornography I doubt that you'd take that in. Seriously over the top, Neil! foot-in-mouth

One thing we have proven conclusively here is that there is NO need for an "Off Topic Chat" thread. Members will do that easily with no formal structure!

Cheers - Tony


Hi, Tony!

In regards to me trying to "link this topic "output dimensions" to perverts & child pornography", I wasn't actually trying to do that. I was merely explaining that, since the time when cameras were put into mobile phones, the seedier elements of society(paedophiles) were bound to find a use for such a device that was never, ever envisaged by those who came up with the means to include cameras in mobile phones. It is the negative aspect of such an inclusion that was missed by Camner in his post about people constantly wanting to take "selfies" every other minute, as well as the habitual use of these "things" to shoot video in vertical(portrait) orientation rather than horizontal(landscape) orientation.

Cheers!

Neil.
ynotfish
Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Offline
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Hi camner -

Some success! "laughing"

I tested your iMovie procedure on a friend's Mac & you're right... it transports back to the iPhone & is viewable in portrait mode.

I hesitate to post this PDR "workaround" in case it excites further off-topic chat, but I'll risk it...


  1. Import portrait video into PDR

  2. Rotate video 90° anti-clockwise & resize to fill screen

  3. Produce to Device > Apple > iPhone/iPad 1920x1080/30p 15Mbps (these profiles can't be customised as far as I know)

  4. Import produced video into iTunes & sync phone

  5. Watch video in glorious portrait mode!


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Possibly, in the inner workings of iMovie something akin to that occurs.

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BarryTheCrab
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Whilst walking about our local WallyMart I suddenly saw, right in my face, a store monitor "tipped" on it's end so to be VERTICAL! Maybe I never noticed them before, but there they were, all of them oriented "sideways" to appear to be smartphones of sorts, albeit big 20+ inch sized. They are being used as advert signs within the store. Just wanted to add that to the mix, and note there is a market for VERTICAL videos, at least on the Pro level. HP Envy Phoenix/4thGen i7-4770(4@3.4GHz~turbo>3.9)
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Hi, Barry!

I've seen something like that as well. There's an IGA(Independent Grocers' Association) supermarket over in Nelson Bay(Australia) that has a screen set up in vertical orientation, to display in-store advertising. What a sad waste of the technology!

Cheers!

Neil.
CS2014
Senior Contributor Location: USA-Eastern Time Zone Joined: Sep 16, 2014 16:44 Messages: 629 Offline
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And I've seen 'computer guys' have a couple of monitors set up with their computer - one landscape and one portrait - but I have not seen a TV oriented in such a fashion.

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Hi, CS!

Keep looking! You're bound to stumble across one sooner or later. As I said, the one I saw was at that IGA supermarket. It was on a wall next to where the checkout counters were. As I said, what a sad waste of the technology!

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Cheers!

Neil.
ynotfish
Senior Contributor Location: N.S.W. Australia Joined: May 08, 2009 02:06 Messages: 9977 Offline
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Dear oh dear oh dear!

The reason newspaper columns are vertical is that it's easier to read. The reason books are mostly vertical is it's easier to read. The reason many advertising billboards and signs are vertical is it's easier to read. That how eyes and brains work. Those things are that way on the basis of RESEARCH into effectively transmitting a message quickly.

This thread is clogged up with unsubstantiated opinions that completely ignore the other side of the equation & are of NO USE to the original poster, who's quite possibly left in disgust.

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Dafydd B [Avatar]
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Quote: Dear oh dear oh dear!

The reason newspaper columns are vertical is that it's easier to read. The reason books are mostly vertical is it's easier to read. The reason many advertising billboards and signs are vertical is it's easier to read. That how eyes and brains work. Those things are that way on the basis of RESEARCH into effectively transmitting a message quickly.

This thread is clogged up with unsubstantiated opinions that completely ignore the other side of the equation & are of NO USE to the original poster, who's quite possibly left in disgust.

Cheers - Tony



I agree with the above comment.

Thread locked to stop further tangential off topic contributions that fail to address the Original Poster's (OP) concerns.

Members, please address the OP's concerns rather than take a thread away from the purpose of the thread starter. I realise the additions can be both amusing and interesting but here they are not relevant to the OP problem and haven't helped. ;(

Dafydd

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